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1. 04:08 AM - Re: wing pins/sockets (Gilles Thesee)
2. 04:41 AM - Re: wing pins/sockets (Brian Davies)
3. 11:59 AM - Re: Powerflarm (PHILLIPS I)
4. 01:18 PM - Ruptured Fuel Tank (brian long)
5. 02:07 PM - Re: Powerflarm (pestar)
6. 03:13 PM - Re: Re: Powerflarm (Frans Veldman)
7. 04:42 PM - Re: Powerflarm (rampil)
8. 04:49 PM - Re: Powerflarm (rampil)
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| Subject: | Re: wing pins/sockets |
f.kyle@sympatico.ca a crit :
>
> I now have three potential wing pin forms, the 3/8-1/2 one, the
> company-supplied starboard hand pin, and the company pip-pin model for
> the port side. Call them A, B.and C. A measures 0.491, B is 0.496
> and C is 0.498. in the port fuselage bushing, C is stickier than
> either A or B - but not by much. The measurements are pretty
> accurately done by three of us, two licensed mechs and Yours Humbly..
>
> AND YET. when these are presented to the spar bushings, they rattle
> around like a whistle pea. I am not familiar with such freedom of
> travel and beg to ask if this sounds usual.
>
> afellow speculations gratefully received (Bud, say something)
>
> Cheers, Ferg
>
> P.S: The tapered pintle spree is soon to be released.
>
Hi Fergus,
Not sure this can apply to the Europa, but in several aircraft I know of
the pins are machined oversize and then the wing spar bushings are
reamed in place to ensure correct fit.
Best regards,
--
Gilles
http://contrails.free.fr
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| Subject: | wing pins/sockets |
Hi Ferg,
Machine shop accuracy and composite construction just don't go together in
this area. You have to get six 1/2 inch bushes to all to line up perfectly
to get both pins in. The composite parts will move around with temp and
humidity changes so you will never get the pins in when "in the field". A
bit of slack is your friend on this occasion.
Regards
Brian Davies G-DDBD
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
f.kyle@sympatico.ca
Sent: 25 June 2013 19:31
Subject: Europa-List: wing pins/sockets
I have written a challenge about a week ago regarding trying to
free a tapered pintle jammed in to the port wing bushing group. More on that
later.
However, in the process of building my Europa, we changed from
3/8inch wing pins to 1/2inch jobs. This invoved removing and replacing the
bushings - and I had a pin made (say 6inches long) which was 3/8inch for 3
inches and then 1/2inch for the remaining 3. This way, the bushings were
exchanged by tacking the spars together for spacing/siting.
I now have three potential wing pin forms, the 3/8-1/2 one, the
company-supplied starboard hand pin, and the company pip-pin model for the
port side. Call them A, B.and C. A measures 0.491", B is 0.496" and C is
0.498". in the port fuselage bushing, C is 'stickier' than either A or B -
but not by much. The measurements are pretty accurately done by three of us,
two licensed mechs and Yours Humbly..
AND YET. when these are presented to the spar bushings, they
rattle around like a whistle pea. I am not familiar with such freedom of
travel and beg to ask if this sounds usual.
afellow speculations gratefully received (Bud, say something)
Cheers, Ferg
P.S: The tapered pintle spree is soon to be released.
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As a matter of interest I use my iPad mini with a garmin glo GPS receiver
this sends a Bluetooth signal to the iPad without wires even though my
mini is the cellular type with built in GPS, it all works well but is only
a backup to my Aera 795'
Regards
Ivor
On Tuesday, 25 June 2013, David Watts wrote:
> >
>
> I can't do Flarm test as I have not got it yet.
> As for the Bad Elf or even the iPad antenna needing to be spaced half
> metre apart from other GPS antenna, I currently run 4 GPSs in my Europa, a
> panel mount Skyforce, 2 Mini iPads and my HTC smartphone (the last 3 all
> running Skydemon). Now there is no way you can get half metre separation on
> that lot in a Europa and I have never had any GPS problems.
>
> Dave Watts G-BXDY
>
> On 25 Jun 2013, at 12:25, Frans Veldman <frans@privatepilots.nl<javascript:;>>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On 06/25/2013 01:01 PM, David Watts wrote:
> >> <dg.watts@talktalk.net <javascript:;>>
> >>
> >> Skydemon had the Powerflarm connected to an iPad through a Butterfly
> >> Connect and displaying on a large TV screen at Aero Expo and very
> >> impressive it was too, showing all the aircraft in the vicinity that
> >> were transponding.
> >
> > Ok, that sounds cool!
> >
> >> I came straight home and bought a Butterfly
> >> Connect.
> >
> > Have you tried switching off the internal GPS, bad elf, or other sources
> > and see whether the SkyDemon actually uses the GPS info from the
> Powerflarm?
> >
> >> As to the GPS signal I personally think the best option for a wifi
> >> iPad is the plug in Bad Elf which gets its power from the iPad
> >
> > I don't like this option because it means more wires, and all the
> > GPS-antenna's want to be placed at the best position but half a meter
> > away from other GPS antenna's, and since I'm operating an Europa and not
> > a 747 it becomes complicated to place all these antenna's according to
> > the manufacturers recommendations.
> > So I really hope that the iPad can get all its information out of the
> > wifi signal.
> >
> >> As for the Garrecht I have no experience other than what I have
> >> read.
> >
> > It is a brick with no display but just a bunch of antenna's, it seems to
> > produce exactly the same information as the powerflarm and interfaces
> > with all the displays, connects and other gadgets. I think I will mount
> > it behind the D-panel where it has the least interference from
> > engine/instrument panel and the best overall view of the sky. And since
> > it broadcasts its information via wifi I only need to provide power to
> > it (and run the audio cable to the headset plugs).
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Frans
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Ruptured Fuel Tank |
Has anyone tried to repair a ruptured fuel tank on their Europa? I have a
one inch split in the base of my tank.
Thanks,
Brian Long
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All models of the Wi-Fi only version iPad will Bluetooth to a standalone Bluetooth
GPS.
I have the very first version of the wi-fi iPad (now running out of puff) bluetooth
connected to my GPS running PocketFMS, AirNav Pro & Runway HD for NewZealand
(yes I am nuts). My other colleagues have later wi-fi iPad versions and
all work well.
As for GPS when I flew the other day I had 9 on-board
3 x separate EFIS, 1 x SpiderTracks, 1 x ELT, 1 x PLB, 1 x Smart Phone, 1 Dual
for iPad, 1 x Suuno Watch - so I am more nuts!!!
and they all live happily ever after ':o' and I have just a slightly larger cockpit
area then the Europa.
Cheers Peter
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Peter Armstrong
Auckland, New Zealand
DynAero MCR-4S (Do not shoot me :) ).
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On 06/26/2013 11:06 PM, pestar wrote:
>
> All models of the Wi-Fi only version iPad will Bluetooth to a standalone Bluetooth
GPS.
This is in contradiction to the information that can be found in various
forums. I can't find an option to enable GPS via bluetooth either. The
only possibility seems to be to jailbreak the iPad, but my new iPad has
the newest iOS on it and the jailbreak can not be applied to it.
If you know an other way I would be interested. I have an Android phone
happily broadcasting GPS but the iPad won't even see it.
Best regards,
Frans
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Where did this dictum that GPS antennae need be 0.5 m apart?
I am reasonably well read in the field of GPS and SDR, and have
never heard of such a thing. In practice it is certainly not true.
I fly with a Blue Mountain EFIS with the external GPS antenna inside
my panel and my IPad backup is mounted such that its GPS antenna
is about 8 inches away and my iPhone GPS running about two feet away.
The assemblage in my car is similar. All gpss function as spec'd.
GPS devices are receivers and don't generate or transmit any noise in the
same band as the L1 and L2 bands. The heterodyne frequencies are below the antenna
bandpass.
As for Apple blocking the connection of external GPS devices,
again simply not the case. What Apple did want not include a pre-written
GPS driver in the Bluetooth stack of its system software.
So far as I know, all the BT GPS like Dual (which I use), Bad Elf, etc,
use the serial driver in the BT stack to communicate. Simple enough for
programmer who writes the App software.
Cheers,
Ira
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Ira N224XS
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Franz,
Pair the BT GPS with the iPad via the Settings Menu.
Start your software App which uses the GPS. If it is written to
use the serial stack, it will use the the GPS data.
I did not see which App you were trying to use. Was it Foreflight
or Hilton?
Did your external GPS come with a utility App? For example, Dual
was such software which proves the connection and details the satellite
signal strength etc.
Google maps or Apple maps may not use the BT serial approach.
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Ira N224XS
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