---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 07/08/13: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:42 AM - G-IRON flies (nigel_graham@m-tecque.co.uk) 2. 01:33 AM - Re: G-IRON flies (Bob Harrison) 3. 02:11 AM - Starboard flap pin =?ISO-8859-1?Q?doesn=99t?= engage easy any longer =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=93?= why? (Roland) 4. 03:18 AM - =?UTF-8?Q?Re:__Starboard_flap_?= =?UTF-8?Q?pin_doesn=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2t_engage_easy_any_lo?= =?UTF-8?Q?nger_=C3=A2=82=AC=9C_why=3F? (Bob Harrison) 5. 07:11 AM - Re: G-IRON flies (Robert Borger) 6. 07:36 AM - Re: G-IRON flies (Mike Gamble) 7. 09:14 AM - =?utf-8?Q?Re:__Star?= =?utf-8?Q?board_flap_pin_doesn?= =?utf-8?Q?=C3=A2=C2=C2=99t_engage_easy_a?= =?utf-8?Q?ny_longer_=C3=A2=C2=C2=93_why=3F? (Neville Eyre) 8. 12:00 PM - Re: Fuel tank question (Pete) 9. 12:02 PM - Re: Fuel tank question (Pete) 10. 01:25 PM - Whats happened to DOTH's (Richard Iddon) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:42:00 AM PST US From: "nigel_graham@m-tecque.co.uk" Subject: Europa-List: G-IRON flies On Saturday, 914 powered XS, G-IRON took to the sky for the first time following a major rebuild in the capable hands of owner Terry Clark. In blistering sunshine and slack wind, G-IRON left the Fairoaks runway at 14.30 for a faultless one-hour sortie. The second flight with your trusty scribe onboard to log flight parameters lasted one hour and forty minutes. The plane is beautifully balanced and flies hands-off straight and level. G-IRON has been built to a very high standard by Terry and Ian Rickard and is a credit to them both (pictured below). Nigel ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:33:22 AM PST US From: "Bob Harrison" Subject: RE: Europa-List: G-IRON flies Well done Ian. Pleased for you . Best regards Bob Harrison. G-PTAG From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of nigel_graham@m-tecque.co.uk Sent: 08 July 2013 08:41 Subject: Europa-List: G-IRON flies On Saturday, 914 powered XS, G-IRON took to the sky for the first time following a major rebuild in the capable hands of owner Terry Clark. In blistering sunshine and slack wind, G-IRON left the Fairoaks runway at 14.30 for a faultless one-hour sortie. The second flight with your trusty scribe onboard to log flight parameters lasted one hour and forty minutes. The plane is beautifully balanced and flies hands-off straight and level. G-IRON has been built to a very high standard by Terry and Ian Rickard and is a credit to them both (pictured below). Nigel ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:11:11 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Starboard flap pin =?ISO-8859-1?Q?doesn=99t?= engage easy any longer =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=93?= why? From: "Roland" Hi, I have my Europa stored in the trailer and rig it any time Im flying. Newly I have the problem, that the starboard flap pin doesnt slide in easy as was always the case before (for two years at any temperature). It feels like it cants and then after wiggling the wing up and down, forth and back it suddenly skips in completely. I always grease those connections very well and also the ring inside the flap operation tube, that catches the pin, is movable as on the other side. Flap operation when rigged is normal. Has anyone of you experienced something similar? Where do I have to focus on? Roland PH-ZTI Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404171#404171 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:18:54 AM PST US From: "Bob Harrison" Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?RE:_Europa-List:_Starboard_flap_?= =?UTF-8?Q?pin_doesn=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2t_engage_easy_any_lo?= =?UTF-8?Q?nger_=C3=A2=82=AC=9C_why=3F? Hi! Roland, I too assemble and dismantle my a/c every time I fly, I also have occasionally a stubborn entry flap drive pin, even though the flap close out has a tapered guide tube to point the flap in the correct direction. I have to ensure that the "Rose Bearing"(You are calling it a "ring") in the end of the flap drive tube is freely centred before I push the wing into place. If I don't do that and the pin fails to engage the bearing it flexes the flap outwards and "cuts" into the aileron close out flange binding them together. ( an extremely dangerous condition if you were to go fly. Tim Wert did but by some very careful airmanship managed to land the aircraft safe.) I suggest that you thoroughly degrease and clean the bearing and re-lubricate it with oil in preference to grease, But above all before flying ensure it is properly engaged and that the flap outboard end is NOT FOULED INTO THE AILERON LOCKING THE TWO TOGETHER). Although I have never has it happen on the port wing I would suggest that it would be likely there also. Regards Bob Harrison G-PTAG -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roland Sent: 08 July 2013 10:11 Subject: Europa-List: Starboard flap pin doesnt engage easy any longer why? Hi, I have my Europa stored in the trailer and rig it any time Im flying. Newly I have the problem, that the starboard flap pin doesnt slide in easy as was always the case before (for two years at any temperature). It feels like it cants and then after wiggling the wing up and down, forth and back it suddenly skips in completely. I always grease those connections very well and also the ring inside the flap operation tube, that catches the pin, is movable as on the other side. Flap operation when rigged is normal. Has anyone of you experienced something similar? Where do I have to focus on? Roland PH-ZTI Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404171#404171 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:11:18 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: G-IRON flies From: Robert Borger Good work guys! Blue skies & tailwinds, Bob Borger Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop. Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208-5331 Cel: 817-992-1117 rlborger@mac.com On Jul 8, 2013, at 2:41 AM, nigel_graham@m-tecque.co.uk wrote: On Saturday, 914 powered XS, G-IRON took to the sky for the first time following a major rebuild in the capable hands of owner Terry Clark. In blistering sunshine and slack wind, G-IRON left the Fairoaks runway at 14.30 for a faultless one-hour sortie. The second flight with your trusty scribe onboard to log flight parameters lasted one hour and forty minutes. The plane is beautifully balanced and flies hands-off straight and level. G-IRON has been built to a very high standard by Terry and Ian Rickard and is a credit to them both (pictured below). Nigel ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:36:51 AM PST US From: "Mike Gamble" Subject: RE: Europa-List: G-IRON flies Great news Ian and Terry. Looks like you've built another good 'un. Look forward to seeing you both around. Well done and look after this one! Regards Mike ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:14:01 AM PST US Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_Europa-List:_Star?= =?utf-8?Q?board_flap_pin_doesn?= =?utf-8?Q?=C3=A2=C2=C2=99t_engage_easy_a?= =?utf-8?Q?ny_longer_=C3=A2=C2=C2=93_why=3F? From: Neville Eyre Hi Roland, The ''eyeball'' ball socket is held captive by a ring [ collar ], if the r ing has moved outboard, it will allow the eyeball to swivel too far, that i s why the pin will jam in the hole. Find a steel tube that just clears the eyeball, but is smaller than the soc ket housing. Align the eyeball hole parallel to the flap tube. Get someone to hold a piece of wood against their leg and bear against the port side of the flap tube, place the steel tube onto the collar and strike the tube with a hammer. When the ring is engaged deeper, the eyeball will only swivel a very small amount. You must of course use a special Aircraft Hammer, I have these for sale at only =C2=A3120 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -----Original Message----- From: Roland Sent: Mon, Jul 8, 2013 10:11 am Subject: Europa-List: Starboard flap pin doesn=C3=A2=C2=C2=99t engage ea sy any longer =C3=A2=C2=C2=93 why? Hi, I have my Europa stored in the trailer and rig it any time I=C3=A2=C2=C2 =99m flying. Newly I have the problem, that the starboard flap pin doesn=C3=A2=C2=C2=99t slid e in easy as was always the case before (for two years at any temperature). It feels like it cants and then after wiggling the wing up and down, forth and back it sudde nly skips in completely. I always grease those connections very well and also t he ring inside the flap operation tube, that catches the pin, is movable as on the other side. Flap operation when rigged is normal. Has anyone of you experienced something similar? Where do I have to focus o n? Roland PH-ZTI Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404171#404171 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:00:59 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fuel tank question From: Pete Hi Andrew, If you do go ahead with it in the next month or two, and if you were interested (ie-if you had to ship further away than expected) I could ship my small 3Gallon tank to you in my Europa tank crate which you could then use, and when completed you could ship (at my cost of course) my little tank to an address in ogdensburg packaged simply in a cardboard box. Just a thought. I could send you some pics of the crate. If I were to participate, I'd have to bring the tank to osh and am leaving on the 23rd :-) Btw, great to hear you resumed you build! Funny how life keeps getting in the way.... Here too of course. Cheers, Pete On Jul 7, 2013, at 5:17 PM, Andrew Sarangan wrote: > > So let me extend this offer to all. I plan to fluorinate my tanks > (#A178) sometime in the next month. As per Pete, the setup cost was > $300 and per unit cost is $35. If three or four of us can join, the > cost will become really trivial. But regardless, I plan to do it > anyway. The pictures I saw of swelling tanks makes me think this could > be worth thousands of dollars. > > > > On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Fred Klein wrote: >> Pete...your kind offer was moot for me in that my CM was already installed, >> w/ tank buried within of course...Fred >> >> On Jul 7, 2013, at 12:24 PM, Pete wrote: >> >> I am kinda surprised that there were no other takers a couple of years ago >> to split the min order cost ...... Since the per tank cost was a trivial $35 >> :-) >> >> >> >> >> > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:02:25 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fuel tank question From: Pete Apologies to the list......email was meant for Andrew only... Cheers, Pete On Jul 8, 2013, at 3:00 PM, Pete wrote: > Hi Andrew, > > If you do go ahead with it in the next month or two, and if you were interested (ie-if you had to ship further away than expected) I could ship my small 3Gallon tank to you in my Europa tank crate which you could then use, and when completed you could ship (at my cost of course) my little tank to an address in ogdensburg packaged simply in a cardboard box. > > Just a thought. I could send you some pics of the crate. If I were to participate, I'd have to bring the tank to osh and am leaving on the 23rd :-) > > > Btw, great to hear you resumed you build! Funny how life keeps getting in the way.... Here too of course. > > Cheers, > Pete > > > On Jul 7, 2013, at 5:17 PM, Andrew Sarangan wrote: > >> >> So let me extend this offer to all. I plan to fluorinate my tanks >> (#A178) sometime in the next month. As per Pete, the setup cost was >> $300 and per unit cost is $35. If three or four of us can join, the >> cost will become really trivial. But regardless, I plan to do it >> anyway. The pictures I saw of swelling tanks makes me think this could >> be worth thousands of dollars. >> >> >> >> On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Fred Klein wrote: >>> Pete...your kind offer was moot for me in that my CM was already installed, >>> w/ tank buried within of course...Fred >>> >>> On Jul 7, 2013, at 12:24 PM, Pete wrote: >>> >>> I am kinda surprised that there were no other takers a couple of years ago >>> to split the min order cost ...... Since the per tank cost was a trivial $35 >>> :-) >> >> >> >> ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 01:25:54 PM PST US From: Richard Iddon Subject: Europa-List: Whats happened to DOTH's Having just got my bird back in the air after various delays this year, I was wondering where to go and it struck me that I have not seen any Drop of the Hat fly ins on the forum this year, unless I have missed them. The weather looks great this week and I note that there is a free landing voucher for Swansea in the July issue of the Light Aircraft mag so am proposing to head there on Thursday for lunch. Look forward to meeting anyone else who can make it. PPR required. Swansea Radio 119.700 Richard Iddon. 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