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Wed 07/10/13


Total Messages Posted: 8



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     1. 03:07 AM - Re: Trip to Australia, is it possible? (jglazener)
     2. 11:51 AM - Any idea what hole in FL-16 Flap Hing Arm is for? (rparigoris)
     3. 12:01 PM - Foot well got burned! (rparigoris)
     4. 01:17 PM - Re: Any idea what hole in FL-16 Flap Hing Arm is for? (Robert Borger)
     5. 01:26 PM - Re: Any idea what hole in FL-16 Flap Hing Arm is for? (Fred Klein)
     6. 01:40 PM - Re: Any idea what hole in FL-16 Flap Hing Arm is for? (Fred Klein)
     7. 02:09 PM - Europa Ownres website ()
     8. 09:28 PM - =?utf-8?Q?Re:__Starboard_flap_pin_doesn=C3=A2=3F=3Ft_enga?= 	=?utf-8?Q?ge_easy_any_longer_=C3=A2=3F=3F_why=3F? (Bud Yerly)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:07:17 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Trip to Australia, is it possible?
    From: "jglazener" <j.glazener@planet.nl>
    Count me in! Just one small problem- need to finish my plane first. I do however feel it might not take as long as getting all the permits.. See http://europaowners.org/main.php?g2_itemId644&g2_imageViewsIndex=1 -------- Jeroen http://www.europaowners.org/main.php?g2_itemId=44165 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404358#404358


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    Time: 11:51:53 AM PST US
    Subject: Any idea what hole in FL-16 Flap Hing Arm is for?
    From: "rparigoris" <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
    Hi Group Anyone have any idea why both of my FL-16 Flap Hinge Arms have a hole on the square end?: https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=550FC20DBDDB521D!1655&authkey=!AF7B8FVUzjNaSt8 Thx. Ron Parigoris Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404403#404403


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    Time: 12:01:08 PM PST US
    Subject: Foot well got burned!
    From: "rparigoris" <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
    Hi Group I accidentally burned my starboard foot-well! I replaced my lanterns alkaline battery (EverReady) ~ Christmas 2010. It hasn't seen any use since then. I sit down in front of my Europa XS Mono to study the undercarriage mounting frame, need some light. No problem, I grab my lantern that I always store with the lens up (in case it is left on), turn it on and use it for 5 or so minutes. I turn it off and rest it on my starboard foot-well, again with the lens up. After about 10 minutes I pick it up, turn it on to use it again and see what I think is water on my foot-well, it's turning the Phenolic resin black! I'm not sure just what leaked out of the battery, but it was water clear and had the viscosity of 3 in 1 oil. I was able to get off perhaps 1/2 of the damage, I tried water, alcohol and acetone with scotchbright. Anyway the resin sure did react quick to whatever it was that leaked out.: https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=550FC20DBDDB521D!1656&authkey=!AEWLOllC2BXrnI0 Ron Parigoris Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404404#404404


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    Time: 01:17:40 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Any idea what hole in FL-16 Flap Hing Arm is for?
    From: Robert Borger <rlborger@mac.com>
    Hi Ron, Not the right place for a hole to connect to the flap cross tube. Nope, no idea why that hole is there. If it were me, I'd just ignore it. You are free to do as you will. Blue skies & tailwinds, Bob Borger Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop. Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208-5331 Cel: 817-992-1117 rlborger@mac.com On Jul 10, 2013, at 1:51 PM, rparigoris <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us> wrote: Hi Group Anyone have any idea why both of my FL-16 Flap Hinge Arms have a hole on the square end?: https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=550FC20DBDDB521D!1655&authkey=!AF7B8FVUzjNaSt8 Thx. Ron Parigoris


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    Time: 01:26:26 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Any idea what hole in FL-16 Flap Hing Arm is for?
    From: Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com>
    Ron...reading on p.9 of chap. 28M: > Step 14 > Attach the hinge arms FL16 to the brackets FL18 then swing them up to engage between the two pairs of lugs that are welded to the cross-tube, rotating the tube so that the lugs and the hinge arms are in line. Clamp the lugs and hinge arms together then, using the two small diameter holes in each lug as a centre, drill right through with a 4.8 mm drill. Insert an AN3-5A bolt in each hole and reposition the clamp if necessary before drilling the second hole then, placing on an AN960-10L washer, tighten each bolt up with an MS21042-3 nut and remove the clamps. The flaps will now extend and retract together and only require linking to the landing gear retraction mechanism. Manual indicates you should have 2 small holes...not 1...what size is your hole? I don't recall if my FL 16s had one or two holes... F. On Jul 10, 2013, at 11:51 AM, rparigoris wrote: > > Hi Group > > Anyone have any idea why both of my FL-16 Flap Hinge Arms have a hole on the square end?: > https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=550FC20DBDDB521D!1655&authkey=!AF7B8FVUzjNaSt8 > > Thx. > Ron Parigoris > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404403#404403 > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > BEGIN-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS > ------------------------------------------------------ > > Teach CanIt if this mail (ID 02JWGXHlz) is spam: > Spam: https://antispam.roaringpenguin.com/canit/b.php?i=02JWGXHlz&m=b15dd3cf2289&t 130710&c=s > Not spam: https://antispam.roaringpenguin.com/canit/b.php?i=02JWGXHlz&m=b15dd3cf2289&t 130710&c=n > Forget vote: https://antispam.roaringpenguin.com/canit/b.php?i=02JWGXHlz&m=b15dd3cf2289&t 130710&c=f > ------------------------------------------------------ > END-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS


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    Time: 01:40:43 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Any idea what hole in FL-16 Flap Hing Arm is for?
    From: Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com>
    OOPS...misread the manual...the "two small holes" are in the lugs, not in the FL 16s...in truth, I don't recall my FL 16s having ANY holes... On Jul 10, 2013, at 1:26 PM, Fred Klein wrote: > > Ron...reading on p.9 of chap. 28M: > >> Step 14 >> Attach the hinge arms FL16 to the brackets FL18 then swing them up to engage between the two pairs of lugs that are welded to the cross-tube, rotating the tube so that the lugs and the hinge arms are in line. Clamp the lugs and hinge arms together then, using the two small diameter holes in each lug as a centre, drill right through with a 4.8 mm drill. Insert an AN3-5A bolt in each hole and reposition the clamp if necessary before drilling the second hole then, placing on an AN960-10L washer, tighten each bolt up with an MS21042-3 nut and remove the clamps. The flaps will now extend and retract together and only require linking to the landing gear retraction mechanism. > > Manual indicates you should have 2 small holes...not 1...what size is your hole? > > I don't recall if my FL 16s had one or two holes... > > F. > > On Jul 10, 2013, at 11:51 AM, rparigoris wrote: > >> >> Hi Group >> >> Anyone have any idea why both of my FL-16 Flap Hinge Arms have a hole on the square end?: >> https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=550FC20DBDDB521D!1655&authkey=!AF7B8FVUzjNaSt8 >> >> Thx. >> Ron Parigoris >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404403#404403 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- > > > > > > > > > -- > BEGIN-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS > ------------------------------------------------------ > > Teach CanIt if this mail (ID 04JWIxqCg) is spam: > Spam: https://antispam.roaringpenguin.com/canit/b.php?i=04JWIxqCg&m=b801e1d25aea&t 130710&c=s > Not spam: https://antispam.roaringpenguin.com/canit/b.php?i=04JWIxqCg&m=b801e1d25aea&t 130710&c=n > Forget vote: https://antispam.roaringpenguin.com/canit/b.php?i=04JWIxqCg&m=b801e1d25aea&t 130710&c=f > ------------------------------------------------------ > END-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS


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    Time: 02:09:11 PM PST US
    From: <f.kyle@sympatico.ca>
    Subject: Europa Ownres website
    I am so elegantly infuriated to take the time to write my frustrations with the asinine subject website. Every time I try to get what I paid for, I am frustrated by the kindergarten precautions to entry. I had to fill out my name and address FIVE times to get to where I could email to acquire a new password. I have more than one address and cannot keep a list of all the myriad passwords and names and addresses these children require - when in fact they had my name and address on application - PLUS a request to remember them for future application - which they DID NOT. What is the problem? Cannot they tell who's emailing them? Why are they unable to acknowledge receipt of one email? They got the money - it's time to belly up to the bar. Ferg Kyle eight thousand passwords


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    Time: 09:28:28 PM PST US
    From: "Bud Yerly" <budyerly@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: f-8?Q?Re:_Europa-List:_Starboard_flap_pin_doesn=C3=A2=3F=3Ft_enga?=
    =?utf-8?Q?ge_easy_any_longer_=C3=A2=3F=3F_why=3F? Nigel, I too have specialized tool for setting these bearings, but I found your price a bit high for a lowly hammer, that's why we have a highly refined tool called a High Inertia Fine Adjustment Tool (HIFAT) for only 150. For others I have a less expensive Government Surplus High Acceleration Mass Mechanical Error Reducer for those fine adjustments at only 56. Regards, Bud ----- Original Message ----- From: Neville Eyre<mailto:neveyre@aol.com> To: europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 12:13 PM Subject: Re: Europa-List: Starboard flap pin doesn=C3=A2=C2=C2=99t engage easy any longer =C3=A2=C2=C2=93 why? Hi Roland, The ''eyeball'' ball socket is held captive by a ring [ collar ], if the ring has moved outboard, it will allow the eyeball to swivel too far, that is why the pin will jam in the hole. Find a steel tube that just clears the eyeball, but is smaller than the socket housing. Align the eyeball hole parallel to the flap tube. Get someone to hold a piece of wood against their leg and bear against the port side of the flap tube, place the steel tube onto the collar and strike the tube with a hammer. When the ring is engaged deeper, the eyeball will only swivel a very small amount. You must of course use a special Aircraft Hammer, I have these for sale at only =C2=A3120 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -----Original Message----- From: Roland <schmidtroland@web.de> To: europa-list <europa-list@matronics.com> Sent: Mon, Jul 8, 2013 10:11 am Subject: Europa-List: Starboard flap pin doesn=C3=A2=C2=C2=99t engage easy any longer =C3=A2=C2=C2=93 why? <schmidtroland@web.de<mailto:schmidtroland@web.de>> Hi, I have my Europa stored in the trailer and rig it any time I=C3=A2=C2=C2=99m flying. Newly I have the problem, that the starboard flap pin doesn=C3=A2=C2=C2=99t slide in easy as was always the case before (for two years at any temperature). It feels like it cants and then after wiggling the wing up and down, forth and back it suddenly skips in completely. I always grease those connections very well and also the ring inside the flap operation tube, that catches the pin, is movable as on the other side. Flap operation when rigged is normal. Has anyone of you experienced something similar? Where do I have to focus on? Roland PH-ZTI Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404171#404171<http://forums .matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404171#404171> arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List<http://www.matronics.com/N avigator?Europa-List> http://www.matronics.com/contribution<http://www.matronics.com/contributi on>




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