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     1. 12:59 AM - Rogue Hole in FL16 (Tony Renshaw)
     2. 01:52 AM - Re: Rogue Hole in FL16 (Pete Lawless)
     3. 01:57 AM - flaphinge bushes (rob zeelenberg)
     4. 02:18 AM - Re: Rogue Hole in FL16 (GRAHAM SINGLETON)
     5. 02:47 AM - UK Mono Training (Dave Disney)
     6. 03:05 AM - Re: Rogue Hole in FL16 (Pete Lawless)
     7. 06:35 AM - Re: UK Mono Training (graeme bird)
     8. 02:07 PM - Re: Re: Whats happened to DOTH's (Richard Iddon)
     9. 03:06 PM - KOSH ticket and room (AirEupora)
    10. 03:06 PM - KOSH ticket and room (AirEupora)
    11. 07:56 PM - Re: KOSH ticket and room (Kingsley Hurst)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Rogue Hole in FL16 | 
      
      The hole n the square end are supposed to be to suit the brackets from the c
      ross tube. So, it's a rogue hole, and if it came from Europa, as I imagine i
      t must of as a fast build kit, with the bearing possibly pre installed as we
      ll, get a new one. I don't think you can use it due to the proximity of the w
      rong hole, compromising the bracket. 
      I undid my temporary setup and now will use some sort of nylon to avoid the f
      riction scored marks in my setup. 
      Hope this he's.
      Regards
      Tony Renshaw
      
      
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      > Time: 11:51:53 AM PST US
      > Subject: Europa-List: Any idea what hole in FL-16 Flap Hing Arm is for?
      > From: "rparigoris" <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
      > 
      > 
      > Hi Group
      > 
      > Anyone have any idea why both of my FL-16 Flap Hinge Arms have a hole on t
      he square
      > end?:
      > https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=550FC20DBDDB521D!1655&authkey=!A
      F7B8FVUzjNaSt8
      > 
      > Thx.
      > Ron Parigoris
      > 
      > 
      > Read this topic online here:
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404403#404403
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      > 
      > Time: 12:01:08 PM PST US
      > Subject: Europa-List: Foot well got burned!
      > From: "rparigoris" <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
      > 
      > 
      > Hi Group
      > 
      > I accidentally burned my starboard foot-well!
      > 
      > I replaced my lanterns alkaline battery (EverReady) ~ Christmas 2010. It h
      asn't
      > seen any use since then. 
      > 
      > I sit down in front of my Europa XS Mono to study the undercarriage mounti
      ng frame,
      > need some light. No problem, I grab my lantern that I always store with th
      e
      > lens up (in case it is left on), turn it on and use it for 5 or so minutes
      .
      > 
      > 
      > I turn it off and rest it on my starboard foot-well, again with the lens u
      p.
      > 
      > After about 10 minutes I pick it up, turn it on to use it again and see wh
      at I
      > think is water on my foot-well, it's turning the Phenolic resin black!
      > 
      > I'm not sure just what leaked out of the battery, but it was water clear a
      nd had
      > the viscosity of 3 in 1 oil.
      > 
      > I was able to get off perhaps 1/2 of the damage, I tried water, alcohol an
      d acetone
      > with scotchbright.
      > 
      > Anyway the resin sure did react quick to whatever it was that leaked out.:
      
      > https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=550FC20DBDDB521D!1656&authkey=!A
      EWLOllC2BXrnI0
      > 
      > Ron Parigoris
      > 
      > 
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      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404404#404404
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      > 
      > Time: 01:17:40 PM PST US
      > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Any idea what hole in FL-16 Flap Hing Arm is for
      ?
      > From: Robert Borger <rlborger@mac.com>
      > 
      > 
      > Hi Ron,
      > 
      > Not the right place for a hole to connect to the flap cross tube.  Nope, n
      o idea
      > why that hole is there.  If it were me, I'd just ignore it.  You are free t
      o
      > do as you will.
      > 
      > Blue skies & tailwinds,
      > Bob Borger
      > Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop.
      > Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP
      > 3705 Lynchburg Dr.
      > Corinth, TX  76208-5331
      > Cel: 817-992-1117
      > rlborger@mac.com
      > 
      > On Jul 10, 2013, at 1:51 PM, rparigoris <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us> wrote
      :
      > 
      > 
      > Hi Group
      > 
      > Anyone have any idea why both of my FL-16 Flap Hinge Arms have a hole on t
      he square
      > end?:
      > https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=550FC20DBDDB521D!1655&authkey=!A
      F7B8FVUzjNaSt8
      > 
      > Thx.
      > Ron Parigoris
      > 
      > 
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| Subject:  | Rogue Hole in FL16 | 
      
      
      Morning Tony
      
      Why not use some proper jointing compound between the parts. It will also
      prevent corrosion. I was given a tin of a yellow paste by my original
      inspector.  I have just had a look in the garage to see if I could find the
      name but I think the tin has been passed on to another builder.
      
      Regards
      
      Pete
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tony Renshaw
      Sent: 11 July 2013 08:59
      Subject: Europa-List: Rogue Hole in FL16
      
      The hole n the square end are supposed to be to suit the brackets from the
      cross tube. So, it's a rogue hole, and if it came from Europa, as I imagine
      it must of as a fast build kit, with the bearing possibly pre installed as
      well, get a new one. I don't think you can use it due to the proximity of
      the wrong hole, compromising the bracket. 
      I undid my temporary setup and now will use some sort of nylon to avoid the
      friction scored marks in my setup. 
      Hope this he's.
      Regards
      Tony Renshaw
      
      
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| Subject:  | flaphinge bushes | 
      
      Hi there ,
      I'm in the search for FL 9 flaphinge bushes (for replacement for my 
      outriggers in the outriggerplates) anybody have some spares left or 
      where to order ? for PH-POP
      kind regards Rob Zeelenberg
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Rogue Hole in FL16 | 
      
      Pete=0Ait's called Duralac. Should always be used when bolting things toget
      her. As you say it=0Ainhibits corrosion between dissimilar metals. -That 
      should have been in the manual but I never saw it.=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A_______
      _________________________=0A From: Pete Lawless <pete@lawless.info>=0ATo: e
      uropa-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Thursday, 11 July 2013, 9:51=0ASubject: R
      E: Europa-List: Rogue Hole in FL16=0A =0A=0A--> Europa-List message posted 
      by: "Pete Lawless" <pete@lawless.info>=0A=0AMorning Tony=0A=0AWhy not use s
      ome proper jointing compound between the parts. It will also=0Aprevent corr
      osion. I was given a tin of a yellow paste by my original=0Ainspector.- I
       have just had a look in the garage to see if I could find the=0Aname but I
       think the tin has been passed on to another builder.=0A=0ARegards=0A=0APet
      e=0A=0A=0A=0A-----Original Message-----=0AFrom: owner-europa-list-server@ma
      tronics.com=0A[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of 
      Tony Renshaw=0ASent: 11 July 2013 08:59=0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com=0AS
      ubject: Europa-List: Rogue Hole in FL16=0A=0AThe hole n the square end are 
      supposed to be to suit the brackets from the=0Across tube. So, it's a rogue
       hole, and if it came from Europa, as I imagine=0Ait must of as a fast buil
      d kit, with the bearing possibly pre installed as=0Awell, get a new one. I 
      don't think you can use it due to the proximity of=0Athe wrong hole, compro
      mising the bracket. =0AI undid my temporary setup and now will use some sor
      t of nylon to avoid the=0Afriction scored marks in my setup. =0AHope this h
      e's.=0ARegards=0ATony Renshaw=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A-- =0AThis message has been sca
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| Subject:  | UK Mono Training | 
      
      
      Im just completing the purchase of a mono and want to get some training to fly
      it safely. Ive contacted the LAA coaching scheme and are waiting for their reply,
      but I thought I would ask on here for the experts thoughts.
      
      I have about 300 hours flying time, most of it in my former aircraft an Airtourer.
      I have no tail wheel experience at all. The aircraft Im buying is a 100hp
      XS mono with a fixed pitch prop.
      
      I hope to base the aircraft at Westonzoyland near Bridgewater in Somerset but I
      still have my old hanger at New Farm near Bristol Airport where the runway is
      a bit longer than Westonzoylands but slopes and cant be used for circuit work
      or training.
      
      Can anybody recommend suitably qualified instructors in the south West (Gloucester
      to Exeter) who might be worth approaching if LAA coaching are unable to help.
      
      Any ideas appreciated.
      
      Dave Disney
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404455#404455
      
      
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| Subject:  | Rogue Hole in FL16 | 
      
      That's the stuff Graham. Certainly anytime I have disassembled anything the
      mating surfaces have always been in good condition.
      
      
      Pete 
      
      
      Do not archive
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GRAHAM
      SINGLETON
      Sent: 11 July 2013 10:18
      Subject: Re: Europa-List: Rogue Hole in FL16
      
      
       Pete
      
      it's called Duralac. Should always be used when bolting things together. As
      you say it
      
      inhibits corrosion between dissimilar metals.  That should have been in the
      manual but I never saw it.
      
      Graham
      
      
        _____  
      
      From: Pete Lawless <pete@lawless.info>
      Sent: Thursday, 11 July 2013, 9:51
      Subject: RE: Europa-List: Rogue Hole in FL16
      
      
      
      Morning Tony
      
      Why not use some proper jointing compound between the parts. It will also
      prevent corrosion. I was given a tin of a yellow paste by my original
      inspector.  I have just had a look in the garage to see if I could find the
      name but I think the tin has been passed on to another builder.
      
      Regards
      
      Pete
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tony Renshaw
      Sent: 11 July 2013 08:59
      Subject: Europa-List: Rogue Hole in FL16
      
      The hole n the square end are supposed to be to suit the brackets from the
      cross tube. So, it's a rogue hole, and if it came from Europa, as I imagine
      it must of as a fast build kit, with the bearing possibly pre installed as
      well, get a new one. I don't think you can use it due to the proximity of
      the wrong hole, compromising the bracket. 
      I undid my temporary setup and now will use some sort of nylon to avoid the
      friction scored marks in my setup. 
      Hope this he's.
      Regards
      Tony Renshaw
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: UK Mono Training | 
      
      
      I can recommend Andy Draper. I was in a similar situation although he also did
      the flight test on the plane. I moved it to Sywell where there is a choice of
      runways and open grass. I did a few sessions with him and then some solo, later
      back for a session on the concrete. It was all done through the coaching scheme.
      I had about 500 hrs but also no tail wheel but havent had a problem so far.
      I did about 70 Takeoff/landings before moving it to the strip.
      
      --------
      Graeme Bird
      G-UMPY
      Mono Classic/XS 912S/Woodcomp 3000/3W
      Newby: 75 hours 18 months 
      g(at)gdbmk.co.uk
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Whats happened to DOTH's | 
      
      
      Pleased to report that we enjoyed a very nice trip to, and a tasty bacon buttie
      at Swansea today. Despite the tower advising me that the cafe would not be open
      when I phoned for PPR! Returned via Caernarfon for a brew. One more Europa
      turned up just as were lining up for departure at Swansea around 1:30. Apologies
      if you arrived for the DOTH and we missed you.
      
      Richard Iddon. 
      
      G-RIXS
      
      On 10 Jul 2013, at 00:45, Bill & Sue <Billandsue@billbell.co.uk> wrote:
      
      > 
      > We flew in to Swansea today and it is very nice too- but no cafe. 
      > Sitting in the sunshine on the grass outside is fine but there appear to be no
      facilities (not so much as a chair!) when the cafe is shut. The firemen made
      us a very nice cuppa and told us the cafe is open Fiday, Saturday and other times
      at random. It would be worth checking that the with the tower when ringing
      for PPR that the cafe is open- apparently they tell by the smell of bacon cooking.
      > We did warn them of a possible influx of Europas  so perhaps they will make an
      extra effort!
      > 
      > Enjoy the outing.
      > 
      > Bill & Sue
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Read this topic online here:
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404334#404334
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | KOSH ticket and room | 
      
      
      I bought a ticket and got a room at the local college for KOAK this year, but I'm
      having semi-emergency surgery next Thursday for a collapsed lung.  I'll be
      in the hospital for five to seven days and the doctor has grounded me for two
      week after I leave the hospital.  
      
      If anybody is interested in the ticket and or the room let me know off line
      
      AirEupora@sbcglobal.net
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404500#404500
      
      
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| Subject:  | KOSH ticket and room | 
      
      
      I bought a ticket and got a room at the local college for KOSK this year, but I'm
      having semi-emergency surgery next Thursday for a collapsed lung.  I'll be
      in the hospital for five to seven days and the doctor has grounded me for two
      week after I leave the hospital.  
      
      If anybody is interested in the ticket and or the room let me know off line
      
      AirEupora@sbcglobal.net
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=404501#404501
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: KOSH ticket and room | 
      
      
      Rick,
      
      Sorry I can't help with the tickets but want to wish you all the best for 
      your surgery.
      
      Regards
      Kingsley from Downunder
      
      Do not archive 
      
      
 
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