---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 07/21/13: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:42 PM - outrigger wheels (trevannan) 2. 02:00 PM - Re: outrigger wheels (spcialeffects) 3. 02:09 PM - andair gascolator query (Rowland Carson) 4. 02:50 PM - Re: outrigger wheels (Pete Lawless) 5. 03:43 PM - Re: andair gascolator query (rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us) 6. 04:46 PM - Re: outrigger wheels (Fred Klein) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:42:40 PM PST US From: trevannan Subject: Europa-List: outrigger wheels Hi I have an early classic Europa , the outrigger wheels have now given up the ghost. I am sorry I know this has all been discussed before but can anybody let me know where I can get some new ones? Roger GBWIJ ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:00:24 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: outrigger wheels From: "spcialeffects" Also are they available in different colours other then blue i.e orange? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=405024#405024 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:09:58 PM PST US From: Rowland Carson Subject: Europa-List: andair gascolator query I've got an Andair GAS375-M gascolator that I plan to fit in the same compartment as the electric fuel pump. Obviously it is desirable to have it mounted with the bottom near the bottom skin of the fuselage so that the drain can be easily activated. However, it's necessary also to have room to remove the bowl. That means cutting an access hole in the bottom skin. Has anyone already got a LAA mod number that includes that sort of thing? I suppose (plan B) it would also be possible to mount the gascolator sufficiently high that the bowl could be removed from inside the aircraft, but that would mean the drain would be a long way from the fuselage floor and so not easy to operate from outside. Maybe it could also be operated from inside if the sample cup is small enough? Any thoughts? in friendship Rowland | Rowland Carson ... that's Rowland with a 'w' ... | http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk | Skype, Twitter: rowland_carson Facebook: Rowland Carson | pictures: http://picasaweb.google.com/rowlandcarson ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:50:33 PM PST US From: "Pete Lawless" Subject: RE: Europa-List: outrigger wheels Evening Roger This is an extract from an email from the late William Mills giving a source of an alternative supply. The email is dated May 2007 so phone numbers and names may not work. I saved it for future use, but now mainly flying off grass find my outrigger wear is minimal. "Whilst on the outrigger subject, I have found a source of much better outrigger wheels with proper sealed bearings and shielded hubs. They are obtained from: MSA Wheels and Castors Ltd, 10 Maclure Road, Rochdale, Lancs., UK. The spec is: 170299 EP100 Wheel + 8 mm Bush. The bush was inserted as a special order for me, to suit the existing outrigger bolt, so please make reference to the Europa aircraft outrigger wheel. If 'phoning the number is + 44(0)1706 516640 and ask for Neal and mention my name and the wheel's purpose. He knows all about it. You will have to make up two pairs of aluminium spacers about 3/16" thick to accommodate the narrower hub. (the rubber tyre is the same width as the blue ones) I made mine out of 8mm drilled 1/2" dia. solid aluminium bar." Regards Pete -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of trevannan Sent: 21 July 2013 21:42 Subject: Europa-List: outrigger wheels Hi I have an early classic Europa , the outrigger wheels have now given up the ghost. I am sorry I know this has all been discussed before but can anybody let me know where I can get some new ones? Roger GBWIJ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Houxou, and is believed to be clean. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:43:05 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: andair gascolator query From: rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us Hi Rowland In USA, not LAA approved but here is what I did with my two 375s on my monowheel with 914: http://www.europaowners.org/main.php?g2_itemId=28612 Drain and service from outside the aeroplane. NOTE: When fooling with my fuel system on the bench, it is a really bad thing to have a leak in either the drain or bowl O ring of the 375. If you are having a hard time putting the bowl back on, install a new O ring as the old one probably changed dimension (keep some on hand). Another caution, when unscrewing the filter, do not turn from the side opposite where the threads are, it can damage the filter. I inspected my filter inside, and low and behold there was build crud from Andair stuck just about holding onto the adhesive they used during assembly just waiting to get to my carbs. Andair replaced free of charge, good idea to have a very good look inside. Ron Parigoris ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:46:22 PM PST US From: Fred Klein Subject: Re: Europa-List: outrigger wheels On Jul 21, 2013, at 1:42 PM, trevannan wrote: > Hi > I have an early classic Europa , the outrigger wheels have now given up the ghost. I am sorry I know this has all been discussed before but can anybody let me know where I can get some new ones? > Roger GBWIJ A while back I did some back of the envelope computations and as I recall I figured that on touch down we are asking our outrigger wheels to spin up from zero to 5000 rpm in an instant. I can't vouch for the math today, but decided at the time that it was worth my time to investigate a bit and discovered the world of precision bearings...I now have some 100mm wheels with ABEX #9 bearings purchased at a inline skate shop...still building, so no direct experience. I had originally substituted sealed roller bearing wheels for those which were supplied w/ the kit; however, I had second thoughts about using them after seeing the identical wheel on supermarket carts...in this use, they are rarely subject to extreme accelleration. These wheels w/ the ABEX #9 bearing spin up like there's no tomorrow. 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