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1. 01:36 AM - Re: andair gascolator query (David Joyce)
2. 02:42 AM - Oshkosh Bound (goff)
3. 08:00 AM - aileron SLOP ()
4. 09:11 AM - Re: Oshkosh Bound (Pete)
5. 10:51 AM - Re: Oshkosh Bound (Christoph Both)
6. 11:27 AM - Re: Oshkosh Bound (Robert Borger)
7. 03:54 PM - Re: Oshkosh Bound (Paul McAllister)
8. 04:02 PM - Re: andair gascolator query (Paul McAllister)
9. 05:10 PM - Re: aileron SLOP (Alex Kaarsberg)
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| Subject: | Re: andair gascolator query |
Rowland, I have an Andair minigascolator behind the tanks
accessed thru a flap and with a drain tap in its bottom,
approved by LAA and very serviceable. Regards David Joyce
GXSDJ
On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 12:40:56 -0400
"Bud Yerly" <budyerly@msn.com> wrotek
> Rowland,
> Although I am not a fan of the gascolator in a Europa, I
>prefer the Andair. You are so right in wanting to place
>it as low as possible. Few gascolators work well
>elevated in the fuselage (the trap function is thwarted)
>and the unit seal must be 100% as any small leak will
>cause the pump to loose prime when the fuel is pulled
>through them. I would have no problem with mounting it
>under the fuselage with the bowl out in the air and
>fabricating an aerodynamic fairing to cover it. The
>cover would need a hole in the bottom for quick draining.
> One quick turn fastener on the front and back and the
>whole cover would come off and the device would be
>serviceable. A desireable but very cramped area would
>be in the center under the pitch tube and between the
>tanks. If you make the hole a half inch larger than the
>bowl it should allow service work. Access holes don't
>scare me as you must just take the time to put the
>structure back into the fuselage. Easy to do under
>construction, but messy with a completed aircraft.
>
> Regards,
> Bud Yerly
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rowland Carson<mailto:rowlandcarson@gmail.com>
> To: Europa e-mail list
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> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 5:09 PM
> Subject: Europa-List: andair gascolator query
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> I've got an Andair GAS375-M gascolator that I plan to
>fit in the same compartment as the electric fuel pump.
>Obviously it is desirable to have it mounted with the
>bottom near the bottom skin of the fuselage so that the
>drain can be easily activated. However, it's necessary
>also to have room to remove the bowl. That means cutting
>an access hole in the bottom skin. Has anyone already got
>a LAA mod number that includes that sort of thing?
>
> I suppose (plan B) it would also be possible to mount
>the gascolator sufficiently high that the bowl could be
>removed from inside the aircraft, but that would mean the
>drain would be a long way from the fuselage floor and so
>not easy to operate from outside. Maybe it could also be
>operated from inside if the sample cup is small enough?
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> in friendship
>
> Rowland
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The three builders/owners/operators of Europa XS Tri-Gear G-CHOX will be at Oshkosh
all week: Goff Moore, Ian Swankie, Peter Field.
Any other Europa enthusiasts going? It would be good to meet up. You can email
us direct on goffmoore@aol.com
Excited already.
Goff
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=405220#405220
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It appears that over the years the dimensions of the aileron control system
have changed, and I now have about 3/4inch (19mm) or less travel slop
between the ailerons - not a good thing. From the wing bottom windows, it
appears to be inboard of the fuselage as there is no slop in the outer wing
areas that I could find.
I would appreciate any advice as to how to adjust same to cancel
this motion. I realise someone has probably already covered this ground, but
am jiggered if I can remember how to find it.
Cheers, Ferg
C-FFGG mono 914 CS prop
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| Subject: | Re: Oshkosh Bound |
Hi Goff,
Yip, I'm here again as usual this year..just revived today LOL! ....drove in.
My trailer (21' trailcruiser with gold honda van) is located right outside the
tower service entrance, with a white board on the side for meet up notes. It
is Under the big maple tree in the very first front yard of the private house
in front of the gate (where the bus stop is near). There is also a blue cooler
with light beer in it for the Europa Clan. come stop by! I'm here and all
set up now lol :-)
Cheers and blue skies (and safe flights to all those flying in)
Pete
A239
On Jul 24, 2013, at 4:41 AM, "goff" <goffmoore@aviators.net> wrote:
>
> The three builders/owners/operators of Europa XS Tri-Gear G-CHOX will be at Oshkosh
all week: Goff Moore, Ian Swankie, Peter Field.
>
> Any other Europa enthusiasts going? It would be good to meet up. You can email
us direct on goffmoore@aol.com
>
> Excited already.
>
> Goff
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=405220#405220
>
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| Subject: | Re: Oshkosh Bound |
Hi Pete,
Look forward to seeing you next week!
Christoph
#223 almost finished....
Sent from my iPad
On 2013-07-24, at 1:11 PM, "Pete" <peterz@zutrasoft.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Goff,
>
> Yip, I'm here again as usual this year..just revived today LOL! ....drove in.
My trailer (21' trailcruiser with gold honda van) is located right outside
the tower service entrance, with a white board on the side for meet up notes.
It is Under the big maple tree in the very first front yard of the private house
in front of the gate (where the bus stop is near). There is also a blue cooler
with light beer in it for the Europa Clan. come stop by! I'm here and
all set up now lol :-)
>
> Cheers and blue skies (and safe flights to all those flying in)
> Pete
> A239
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 24, 2013, at 4:41 AM, "goff" <goffmoore@aviators.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> The three builders/owners/operators of Europa XS Tri-Gear G-CHOX will be at
Oshkosh all week: Goff Moore, Ian Swankie, Peter Field.
>>
>> Any other Europa enthusiasts going? It would be good to meet up. You can email
us direct on goffmoore@aol.com
>>
>> Excited already.
>>
>> Goff
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=405220#405220
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Oshkosh Bound |
Pete & Chris,
I should be arriving late tomorrow afternoon if weather cooperates. I'll be camping
in a pop-up in Camp Schollar.
I'll be sure to stop by the trailer to say "Hi" once I'm settled.
Blue skies & tailwinds,
Bob Borger
Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop.
Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208-5331
Cel: 817-992-1117
rlborger@mac.com
On Jul 24, 2013, at 11:10 AM, Pete <peterz@zutrasoft.com> wrote:
Hi Goff,
Yip, I'm here again as usual this year..just revived today LOL! ....drove in.
My trailer (21' trailcruiser with gold honda van) is located right outside the
tower service entrance, with a white board on the side for meet up notes. It
is Under the big maple tree in the very first front yard of the private house
in front of the gate (where the bus stop is near). There is also a blue cooler
with light beer in it for the Europa Clan. come stop by! I'm here and all
set up now lol :-)
Cheers and blue skies (and safe flights to all those flying in)
Pete
A239
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| Subject: | Re: Oshkosh Bound |
I plan on being there on Thursday and Friday. I will probably drive. - Paul
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| Subject: | Re: andair gascolator query |
Rowland,
I put mine under the baggage bay with a small door for access. If you
airplane is closed up then this will be a bit of a pain to install.
I know that this is taking the thread a bit off topic, and you are LAA
constrained but if I was to do it over again I would install two, one in
the main line and one in the reserve to remove a single point of failure.
I have not ever seen enough debris in mine to cause a problem but I recall
Alex Bowman (?) landing out because fine rust passed though his funnel
strainer but clogged his gascolator. Not sure if it was an Andair
I with Bud when it comes to Andairs, they are the "gold standard" and the
new filter element has a much larger area than the original. It would take
a lot of crud to block it.
Regards, Paul
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Bud Yerly <budyerly@msn.com> wrote:
> **
> Rowland,
> Although I am not a fan of the gascolator in a Europa, I prefer the
> Andair. You are so right in wanting to place it as low as possible. Few
> gascolators work well elevated in the fuselage (the trap function is
> thwarted) and the unit seal must be 100% as any small leak will cause the
> pump to loose prime when the fuel is pulled through them. I would have no
> problem with mounting it under the fuselage with the bowl out in the air
> and fabricating an aerodynamic fairing to cover it. The cover would need a
> hole in the bottom for quick draining. One quick turn fastener on the
> front and back and the whole cover would come off and the device would be
> serviceable. A desireable but very cramped area would be in the center
> under the pitch tube and between the tanks. If you make the hole a half
> inch larger than the bowl it should allow service work. Access holes don't
> scare me as you must just take the time to put the structure back into the
> fuselage. Easy to do under construction, but messy with a completed
> aircraft.
>
> Regards,
> Bud Yerly
>
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| Subject: | Re: aileron SLOP |
Ferg,
If you take off the wings, fix the yoke and the aileron and then wiggle the w
iggly bits where the wing root and the CM meet you should feel any slop, to t
ell you where to look.
Should there be no slop, I would guess there is a misalignment of the wiggly
parts or perhaps the tufnel spacer on its mating face has departed?
Brgds,
Alex Kaarsberg
Em 24/07/2013, =C3-s 12:07, <f.kyle@sympatico.ca> escreveu:
> It appears that over the years the dimensions of the aileron control syste
m have changed, and I now have about 3/4inch (19mm) or less travel slop betw
een the ailerons - not a good thing. =46rom the wing bottom windows, it appe
ars to be inboard of the fuselage as there is no slop in the outer wing area
s that I could find.
> I would appreciate any advice as to how to adjust same to canc
el this motion. I realise someone has probably already covered this ground, b
ut am jiggered if I can remember how to find it.
> Cheers, Ferg
> C-FFGG mono 914 CS prop
>
>
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