Europa-List Digest Archive

Thu 07/25/13


Total Messages Posted: 11



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:05 AM - Re: aileron SLOP (Kingsley Hurst)
     2. 05:13 AM - Re: aileron SLOP (GRAHAM SINGLETON)
     3. 07:06 AM - First Flight (Richard Wheelwright)
     4. 07:41 AM - Re: First Flight (Michael Davies)
     5. 07:53 AM - Re: First Flight (PHILLIPS I)
     6. 08:00 AM - Re: First Flight (Bob Harrison)
     7. 08:02 AM - Re: First Flight (Fred Klein)
     8. 08:06 AM - Re: First Flight (Bob Harrison)
     9. 08:20 AM - Re: First Flight (Max Cointe (Free))
    10. 09:38 AM - Re: First Flight (GRAHAM SINGLETON)
    11. 02:26 PM - Re: First Flight (craig)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:05:17 AM PST US
    From: "Kingsley Hurst" <kingsnjan@westnet.com.au>
    Subject: Re: aileron SLOP
    Hello Ferg, I suspect the problem is most likely in one or both of the aileron quick connect mechanisms but before checking them firstly ensure ALL rod end fittings and associated bolts within the whole aileron circuit are properly tightened. Also check that one of the tufnol pads on the quick connects has not come adrift. Assuming everything aforementioned is tight and/or in place, get a helper to hold the control stick progressively in the full left, centre and full right positions while you check the free movement of one aileron at a time in all of those positions. If you find the free movement varies when in each of those positions, the problem will likely be one of misalignment of the bolts on which the quick connects pivot. Check the other aileron in the same manner. If you once had no free play as you describe but do now, I suspect there might have been a collision in a quick connect mechanism during the rigging or de-rigging of the wings at some time. If the problem IS found to be one of misalignment of the quick connect pivot bolts, we will have to discuss a method for fixing this later. Hope this is of some help mate. Cheers from your antipodean cousin Kingsley ----- Original Message ----- From: f.kyle@sympatico.ca To: 5EUROPALIST Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 1:07 AM Subject: Europa-List: aileron SLOP It appears that over the years the dimensions of the aileron control system have changed, and I now have about 3/4inch (19mm) or less travel slop between the ailerons - not a good thing. From the wing bottom windows, it appears to be inboard of the fuselage as there is no slop in the outer wing areas that I could find. I would appreciate any advice as to how to adjust same to cancel this motion. I realise someone has probably already covered this ground, but am jiggered if I can remember how to find it. Cheers, Ferg C-FFGG mono 914 CS prop No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 07/24/13


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    Time: 05:13:18 AM PST US
    From: GRAHAM SINGLETON <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: aileron SLOP
    Fergus=0AKingsley has sais it all I think. Until source of play identified that is.=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: King sley Hurst <kingsnjan@westnet.com.au>=0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com =0ASe nt: Thursday, 25 July 2013, 12:04=0ASubject: Re: Europa-List: aileron SLOP =0A =0A=0A=0A =0AHello Ferg,=0A-=0AI suspect the problem is most likely i n one or both =0Aof the aileron quick connect mechanisms but before checkin g them =0Afirstly-ensure ALL rod end fittings and =0Aassociated bolts wit hin the whole aileron circuit are properly tightened.- =0AAlso check that one of the tufnol pads on the quick connects has not come =0Aadrift.=0A- =0AAssuming everything aforementioned is tight and/or =0Ain place, get a he lper to hold the control stick progressively in the full left, =0Acentre an d full right positions while you check the free movement of one aileron =0A at a time in all of those positions.- If you find the free movement varie s =0Awhen in each of those positions, the problem will likely be one of mis alignment =0Aof the bolts on which the quick connects pivot.- Check the o ther aileron in =0Athe same manner.=0AIf you once had no free play as you d escribe but do =0Anow, I suspect there might have been a collision in a qui ck connect =0Amechanism-during the rigging or de-rigging of the wings at some =0Atime.=0A-=0AIf the problem-IS found to be one of =0Amisalignmen t of the quick connect pivot bolts, we will have to discuss a method =0Afor fixing this later.=0A-=0AHope this is of some help mate.=0A-=0ACheers from your antipodean cousin=0A-=0AKingsley=0A-=0A-=0A-=0A-=0A- =0A-=0A-=0A-=0A-=0A----- Original Message ----- =0AFrom: f.kyle@sym patico.ca =0A>To: 5EUROPALIST =0A>Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 1:07 AM=0A >Subject: Europa-List: aileron SLOP=0A>=0A>=0A>It appears that over the ye ars the dimensions of the aileron control system have changed, and I now h ave about 3/4inch (19mm) or less travel slop between the ailerons - not a good thing. From the wing bottom windows, it appears to be inboard of the fuselage as there is no slop in the outer wing areas that I could find.=0A >----------- I would appreciate any advice as to how to adjust same to cancel this motion. I realise someone has probably alre ady covered this ground, but am jiggered if I can remember how to find it. =0A>Cheers, Ferg=0A>C-FFGG mono 914 CS prop=0A>href="http://www.matroni cs.com/Navigator?Europa-List">http://www.matronhref="http://forums.matron ics.com">http://forums.matronics.com=0Ahref="http://www.matronics.com/con tribution">http://www.matronics.com/c =0A>No virus found in this message. =0A>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=0A>Version: 2013.0.3349 / Virus =0A Datab =


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    Time: 07:06:20 AM PST US
    Subject: First Flight
    From: "Richard Wheelwright" <rpwheelwright@yahoo.co.uk>
    She Fly's !!! On the 24th July 2013 at 16:17 Local Time G-IRPW finally lifted her wheels from the surface of Wombleton Air Field in Yorkshire, UK. First flight was carried out by Very professional Pilot Ivan Shaw. Ivan's first report on landing is, "She fly's beautifully with no problems, balanced well and flight straight and level" There are a few miner tweets required but nothing major required. The Build was started on 20th December 2005. Total build time 7 years 7 Months 4 days and counting. Total hours 1800 Approx. I would like to to take this opportunity to say thank you to all who have given their support over the years. First, my Wife, Adele. Nev Eyre Ivan Shaw Graham Singleton David Glowa Pat Tunney Ian Rickard Roger Bull John Wheeler Andy Draper Bud Yearly LAA Europa Aircraft 2004 If I have missed someone, this is not intentional as, a first flight make the brain become very cloudy or is that the brain is in the clouds? youtube Vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl8LCP9lPTQ Now let have some fun!!!! Thank you again Richard Wheelwright. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=405293#405293


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    Time: 07:41:26 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: First Flight
    From: Michael Davies <mike.davies210@gmail.com>
    Well done Richard. The real enjoyment starts now Mike (G-MLXP) On Jul 25, 2013 3:09 PM, "Richard Wheelwright" <rpwheelwright@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > rpwheelwright@yahoo.co.uk> > > She Fly's !!! > On the 24th July 2013 at 16:17 Local Time G-IRPW finally lifted her wheels > from the surface of Wombleton Air Field in Yorkshire, UK. First flight was > carried out by Very professional Pilot Ivan Shaw. Ivan's first report on > landing is, > "She fly's beautifully with no problems, balanced well and flight > straight and level" > There are a few miner tweets required but nothing major required. > > The Build was started on 20th December 2005. Total build time 7 years 7 > Months 4 days and counting. Total hours 1800 Approx. > I would like to to take this opportunity to say thank you to all who > have given their support over the years. > First, my Wife, Adele. > Nev Eyre > Ivan Shaw > Graham Singleton > David Glowa > Pat Tunney > Ian Rickard > Roger Bull > John Wheeler > Andy Draper > Bud Yearly > LAA > Europa Aircraft 2004 > > > If I have missed someone, this is not intentional as, a first flight make > the brain become very cloudy or is that the brain is in the clouds? > > youtube Vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl8LCP9lPTQ > > Now let have some fun!!!! > > Thank you again > Richard Wheelwright. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=405293#405293 > >


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    Time: 07:53:34 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: First Flight
    From: PHILLIPS I <ivor.phillips@ntlworld.com>
    Congratulations on a job well done, hope to see you around some air rally's in the near future, Best wishes Ivor (G-IVER) On Thursday, 25 July 2013, Michael Davies wrote: > Well done Richard. The real enjoyment starts now > > Mike (G-MLXP) > On Jul 25, 2013 3:09 PM, "Richard Wheelwright" <rpwheelwright@yahoo.co.uk<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'rpwheelwright@yahoo.co.uk');>> > wrote: > >> rpwheelwright@yahoo.co.uk <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', >> 'rpwheelwright@yahoo.co.uk');>> >> >> She Fly's !!! >> On the 24th July 2013 at 16:17 Local Time G-IRPW finally lifted her >> wheels from the surface of Wombleton Air Field in Yorkshire, UK. First >> flight was carried out by Very professional Pilot Ivan Shaw. Ivan's first >> report on landing is, >> "She fly's beautifully with no problems, balanced well and flight >> straight and level" >> There are a few miner tweets required but nothing major required. >> >> The Build was started on 20th December 2005. Total build time 7 years 7 >> Months 4 days and counting. Total hours 1800 Approx. >> I would like to to take this opportunity to say thank you to all who >> have given their support over the years. >> First, my Wife, Adele. >> Nev Eyre >> Ivan Shaw >> Graham Singleton >> David Glowa >> Pat Tunney >> Ian Rickard >> Roger Bull >> John Wheeler >> Andy Draper >> Bud Yearly >> LAA >> Europa Aircraft 2004 >> >> >> If I have missed someone, this is not intentional as, a first flight make >> the brain become very cloudy or is that the brain is in the clouds? >> >> youtube Vid G-IRPW First Flight 24th July 2013<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl8LCP9lPTQ> >> >> Now let have some fun!!!! >> >> Thank you again >> Richard Wheelwright. >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=405293#405293 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ========== >> target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List >> ========== >> http://forums.matronics.com >> ========== >> le, List Admin. >> ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> ========== >> >> >> >> * > > * > >


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    Time: 08:00:30 AM PST US
    From: "Bob Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
    Subject: First Flight
    Well done Michael . on first flight of G-MLXP Regards Bob Harrison G-PTAG From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Davies Sent: 25 July 2013 15:41 Subject: Re: Europa-List: First Flight Well done Richard. The real enjoyment starts now Mike (G-MLXP) On Jul 25, 2013 3:09 PM, "Richard Wheelwright" <rpwheelwright@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: <rpwheelwright@yahoo.co.uk> She Fly's !!! On the 24th July 2013 at 16:17 Local Time G-IRPW finally lifted her wheels from the surface of Wombleton Air Field in Yorkshire, UK. First flight was carried out by Very professional Pilot Ivan Shaw. Ivan's first report on landing is, "She fly's beautifully with no problems, balanced well and flight straight and level" There are a few miner tweets required but nothing major required. The Build was started on 20th December 2005. Total build time 7 years 7 Months 4 days and counting. Total hours 1800 Approx. I would like to to take this opportunity to say thank you to all who have given their support over the years. First, my Wife, Adele. Nev Eyre Ivan Shaw Graham Singleton David Glowa Pat Tunney Ian Rickard Roger Bull John Wheeler Andy Draper Bud Yearly LAA Europa Aircraft 2004 If I have missed someone, this is not intentional as, a first flight make the brain become very cloudy or is that the brain is in the clouds? youtube Vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl8LCP9lPTQ Now let have some fun!!!! Thank you again Richard Wheelwright. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=405293#405293 ========== target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List ========== http://forums.matronics.com ========== le, List Admin. ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ==========


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    Time: 08:02:36 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: First Flight
    From: Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com>
    On Jul 25, 2013, at 7:05 AM, Richard Wheelwright wrote: > > She Fly's !!! Richard...Congratulations !! ...and thanks for the dollop of inspiration to finish up!...Fred


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    Time: 08:06:48 AM PST US
    From: "Bob Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
    Subject: First Flight
    Hi! Richard I somehow must start reading messages like the Chinese, bottom up . I just congratulated Mike Davies so probably he had a hand in it but I didn't intend to steel your show...for G-IRPW Good show. And now take care , my mentor advised to always "keep scared "! Regards Bob Harrison G-PTAG -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Wheelwright Sent: 25 July 2013 15:06 Subject: Europa-List: First Flight --> <rpwheelwright@yahoo.co.uk> She Fly's !!! On the 24th July 2013 at 16:17 Local Time G-IRPW finally lifted her wheels from the surface of Wombleton Air Field in Yorkshire, UK. First flight was carried out by Very professional Pilot Ivan Shaw. Ivan's first report on landing is, "She fly's beautifully with no problems, balanced well and flight straight and level" There are a few miner tweets required but nothing major required. The Build was started on 20th December 2005. Total build time 7 years 7 Months 4 days and counting. Total hours 1800 Approx. I would like to to take this opportunity to say thank you to all who have given their support over the years. First, my Wife, Adele. Nev Eyre Ivan Shaw Graham Singleton David Glowa Pat Tunney Ian Rickard Roger Bull John Wheeler Andy Draper Bud Yearly LAA Europa Aircraft 2004 If I have missed someone, this is not intentional as, a first flight make the brain become very cloudy or is that the brain is in the clouds? youtube Vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl8LCP9lPTQ Now let have some fun!!!! Thank you again Richard Wheelwright. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=405293#405293


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    Time: 08:20:22 AM PST US
    From: "Max Cointe (Free)" <mcointe@free.fr>
    Subject: First Flight
    Well done Richard! No you've to fly the baby but take care to post parturient syndrome :-) Max Cointe mcointe@free.fr F-PMLH Europa XS_TriGear Kit #560-2003 912ULS/AirmasterAP332 450 hours F-PLDJ DynAro MCR 4S Kit #27-2002 912ULSFR/MTProp MTV7A 1550 heures -----Message d'origine----- De: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] De la part de Richard Wheelwright Envoy: jeudi 25 juillet 2013 16:06 : europa-list@matronics.com Objet: Europa-List: First Flight --> <rpwheelwright@yahoo.co.uk> She Fly's !!! On the 24th July 2013 at 16:17 Local Time G-IRPW finally lifted her wheels from the surface of Wombleton Air Field in Yorkshire, UK. First flight was carried out by Very professional Pilot Ivan Shaw. Ivan's first report on landing is, "She fly's beautifully with no problems, balanced well and flight straight and level" There are a few miner tweets required but nothing major required. The Build was started on 20th December 2005. Total build time 7 years 7 Months 4 days and counting. Total hours 1800 Approx. I would like to to take this opportunity to say thank you to all who have given their support over the years. First, my Wife, Adele. Nev Eyre Ivan Shaw Graham Singleton David Glowa Pat Tunney Ian Rickard Roger Bull John Wheeler Andy Draper Bud Yearly LAA Europa Aircraft 2004 If I have missed someone, this is not intentional as, a first flight make the brain become very cloudy or is that the brain is in the clouds? youtube Vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl8LCP9lPTQ Now let have some fun!!!! Thank you again Richard Wheelwright. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=405293#405293


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    Time: 09:38:09 AM PST US
    From: GRAHAM SINGLETON <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: First Flight
    Well done Richard , I knew you would get there in the end! =0AGraham=0ADave Glowa next?=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Richar d Wheelwright <rpwheelwright@yahoo.co.uk>=0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Thursday, 25 July 2013, 15:05=0ASubject: Europa-List: First Flight wright@yahoo.co.uk>=0A=0AShe Fly's !!!=0AOn the 24th July 2013 at 16:17 Loc al Time G-IRPW finally lifted her wheels from the surface of Wombleton Air Field in Yorkshire, UK. First flight was carried out by Very professional P ilot Ivan Shaw. Ivan's first report on landing is,=0A- - - "She fly's beautifully with no problems, balanced well and flight straight and level" =0AThere are a few miner tweets required but nothing major required.=0A=0A The Build was started on 20th December 2005. Total build time 7 years 7 Mon ths 4 days and counting. Total hours 1800 Approx. =0A- I would like to t o take this opportunity to say thank you to all who have given their suppor t over the years.=0AFirst, my Wife, Adele.=0ANev Eyre=0AIvan Shaw=0AGraham Singleton=0ADavid Glowa=0APat Tunney=0AIan Rickard=0ARoger Bull=0AJohn Whee ler=0AAndy Draper=0ABud Yearly=0ALAA=0AEuropa Aircraft 2004=0A=0A=0AIf I ha ve missed someone, this is not intentional as, a first flight make the brai n become very cloudy or is that the brain is in the clouds?=0A=0Ayoutube Vi d http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl8LCP9lPTQ=0A=0ANow let have some fun!! !!=0A=0AThank you again=0ARichard Wheelwright.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topi c online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=405293#40 ======================


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    Time: 02:26:19 PM PST US
    From: "craig" <craigb@onthenet.com.au>
    Subject: First Flight
    Congrats, I bet it all seemed too hard at times, but you wont be thinking that now Regards Craig from oz -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Wheelwright Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 12:06 AM Subject: Europa-List: First Flight <rpwheelwright@yahoo.co.uk> She Fly's !!! On the 24th July 2013 at 16:17 Local Time G-IRPW finally lifted her wheels from the surface of Wombleton Air Field in Yorkshire, UK. First flight was carried out by Very professional Pilot Ivan Shaw. Ivan's first report on landing is, "She fly's beautifully with no problems, balanced well and flight straight and level" There are a few miner tweets required but nothing major required. The Build was started on 20th December 2005. Total build time 7 years 7 Months 4 days and counting. Total hours 1800 Approx. I would like to to take this opportunity to say thank you to all who have given their support over the years. First, my Wife, Adele. Nev Eyre Ivan Shaw Graham Singleton David Glowa Pat Tunney Ian Rickard Roger Bull John Wheeler Andy Draper Bud Yearly LAA Europa Aircraft 2004 If I have missed someone, this is not intentional as, a first flight make the brain become very cloudy or is that the brain is in the clouds? youtube Vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl8LCP9lPTQ Now let have some fun!!!! Thank you again Richard Wheelwright. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=405293#405293 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com




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