---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 08/10/13: 2 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:35 PM - Re: Gusset plates (Bud Yerly) 2. 03:07 PM - Re: Gusset plates (James Kelly) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:35:42 PM PST US From: "Bud Yerly" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Gusset plates Tony, If you have a gap but the plate is parallel or close to parallel to the tube you can put a small joggle in the steel. However then your bolt hole to edge distance becomes critical on the wood glass gusset. If there is still good edge distance you'll be OK. Another method is to put a filler strip to take up the gap of steel. Just a short strip with a couple holes in it match drilled will do. It should only add a bit of time and be more than secure. All one is looking for is to keep the tube stable. Best Regards, Bud Yerly ----- Original Message ----- From: Tony Renshaw To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 2:00 AM Subject: Europa-List: Gusset plates > Gidday, I am having trouble with the gusset plates. I used the 12 ply supplied and shaped it accordingly, except I have about a 5 mm gap from ply to tie rod. The cloth will take up approx half of that. So, I bonded on the ply and then layed up the 4 plies of BID, which in essence thickens the ply by 8 plies. So, now that its all done I have a 2-3 mm gap +/- and the gusset plates do not sit parallel. For the other side I lightly clamped the plates together as the BID cured, in situ, and they were covered in Canauba Wax for a release agent. So, that side is OK, but the first side I have a problem I am hoping I can use Redux and Flox to pack out both the gap between rod and ply, and also to create a flat bed for the gusset plates. I am wondering this would be considered an acceptable way to fix things? I know Redux and Flox is a pretty tough mix and the loads in this region I do not consider will challenge what I am doing, as something would have already broken, like a wing! Regards Tony Renshaw http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:07:41 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Gusset plates From: James Kelly Hi Bud, It appears that there's always problems with Europa exhaust pipes cracking near the manifold, any ideas why this is so prevalent ? Jimmy On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 9:34 PM, Bud Yerly wrote: > ** > Tony, > If you have a gap but the plate is parallel or close to parallel to the > tube you can put a small joggle in the steel. However then your bolt hole > to edge distance becomes critical on the wood glass gusset. If there is > still good edge distance you'll be OK. > > Another method is to put a filler strip to take up the gap of steel. Just > a short strip with a couple holes in it match drilled will do. > It should only add a bit of time and be more than secure. > > All one is looking for is to keep the tube stable. > > Best Regards, > Bud Yerly > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Tony Renshaw > *To:* europa-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Saturday, August 10, 2013 2:00 AM > *Subject:* Europa-List: Gusset plates > > > Gidday, > I am having trouble with the gusset plates. I used the 12 ply supplied and > shaped it accordingly, except I have about a 5 mm gap from ply to tie rod. > The cloth will take up approx half of that. So, I bonded on the ply and > then layed up the 4 plies of BID, which in essence thickens the ply by 8 > plies. So, now that its all done I have a 2-3 mm gap +/- and the gusset > plates do not sit parallel. For the other side I lightly clamped the plates > together as the BID cured, in situ, and they were covered in Canauba Wax > for a release agent. So, that side is OK, but the first side I have a > problem I am hoping I can use Redux and Flox to pack out both the gap > between rod and ply, and also to create a flat bed for the gusset plates. I > am wondering this would be considered an acceptable way to fix things? I > know Redux and Flox is a pretty tough mix and the loads in this region I do > not consider will challenge what I am doing, as something would have > already broken, like a wing! > Regards > Tony p; Features Chat, http://www.matronnbsp; via the Web > title=http://forums.matronics.com/ > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > _p; generous bsp; title > http://www.matronics.com/contribution href=" > http://www.matronics.com/contribution"> > http://www.matronics.com/c================ > > > * > > * > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.