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1. 06:27 AM - Re: Re: Wing lift and drag pins (Pete Lawless)
2. 02:47 PM - Navaid Servo (Kelvin Cobb)
3. 05:10 PM - Re: Re: Wing lift and drag pins (Martin Tuck)
4. 05:49 PM - Re: Navaid Servo (Paul McAllister)
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| Subject: | Re: Wing lift and drag pins |
Afternoon All
I recommend the following link for the official report into the in flight
break up.
http://www.aaib.gov.uk/cms_resources.cfm?file=/Europa,%20G-HOFC%2005-08.pdf
Regards
Pete
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Joyce
Sent: 18 August 2013 18:23
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Wing lift and drag pins
Sorry, don't see to have a name for you! I would very
much advise putting the pin in the middle of the plates.
When William Mills plane broke up in. Mid air on a Max
weight VNe dive there were two things that failed and it
was never decided which was the primary factor, (although
I prefer the notion of the tail plane fixation having
failed). However one was that a front lift pin had been
drilled into the front edges of the 3 plates in the wing
root, reaching the edge of one and overlapping another,
which meant that it was taking considerable strains on a
metal to fibreglass joint which is not in the owner's long
term interests! That is not exactly a reason for being
central but a very good reason for not being anywhere near
the edge as I dare say that you cannot know precisely
where the deeper plates are situated.
Regards, David Joyce, G- XSDJ
On Sun, 18 Aug 2013 04:36:20 -0700
"spcialeffects" <spcialeffects@aol.com> wrote:
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> One other question please. The instruction page above
>says to drill the flap pin in the middle of the plates
>but the combined manual gives an off centre position. Why
>is there a difference of position and which is best to
>use?
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=406953#406953
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Hi, I know it's a long shot but does anyone on the forum have any idea where I
can get a navaid servo? I have the AP-1 head already installed/linked to the GPS,
but unfortunately there was no sign of the servo when I purchased the aircraft.....
Any help gratefully received.
Kelvin (G-BZAM)
Sent from my iPad
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| Subject: | Re: Wing lift and drag pins |
So the purpose of diving to VNe as part of the annual inspection is to
determine what?
Martin Tuck
Europa N152MT
Wichita, Kansas
On 8/19/2013 8:25 AM, Pete Lawless wrote:
>
> Afternoon All
>
> I recommend the following link for the official report into the in flight
> break up.
>
> http://www.aaib.gov.uk/cms_resources.cfm?file=/Europa,%20G-HOFC%2005-08.pdf
>
> Regards
>
> Pete
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Joyce
> Sent: 18 August 2013 18:23
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Wing lift and drag pins
>
>
>
> Sorry, don't see to have a name for you! I would very
> much advise putting the pin in the middle of the plates.
> When William Mills plane broke up in. Mid air on a Max
> weight VNe dive there were two things that failed and it
> was never decided which was the primary factor, (although
> I prefer the notion of the tail plane fixation having
> failed). However one was that a front lift pin had been
> drilled into the front edges of the 3 plates in the wing
> root, reaching the edge of one and overlapping another,
> which meant that it was taking considerable strains on a
> metal to fibreglass joint which is not in the owner's long
> term interests! That is not exactly a reason for being
> central but a very good reason for not being anywhere near
> the edge as I dare say that you cannot know precisely
> where the deeper plates are situated.
> Regards, David Joyce, G- XSDJ
>
> On Sun, 18 Aug 2013 04:36:20 -0700
> "spcialeffects" <spcialeffects@aol.com> wrote:
>> <spcialeffects@aol.com>
>>
>> One other question please. The instruction page above
>> says to drill the flap pin in the middle of the plates
>> but the combined manual gives an off centre position. Why
>> is there a difference of position and which is best to
>> use?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=406953#406953
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Un/Subscription,
>> Forums!
>> Admin.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Navaid Servo |
I believe that the Trio servo is compatible. Give them a call
On Monday, August 19, 2013, Kelvin Cobb wrote:
> >
>
>
> Hi, I know it's a long shot but does anyone on the forum have any idea
> where I can get a navaid servo? I have the AP-1 head already
> installed/linked to the GPS, but unfortunately there was no sign of the
> servo when I purchased the aircraft.....
>
> Any help gratefully received.
>
> Kelvin (G-BZAM)
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
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