---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 08/19/13: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:27 AM - Re: Re: Wing lift and drag pins (Pete Lawless) 2. 02:47 PM - Navaid Servo (Kelvin Cobb) 3. 05:10 PM - Re: Re: Wing lift and drag pins (Martin Tuck) 4. 05:49 PM - Re: Navaid Servo (Paul McAllister) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:27:29 AM PST US From: "Pete Lawless" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Wing lift and drag pins Afternoon All I recommend the following link for the official report into the in flight break up. http://www.aaib.gov.uk/cms_resources.cfm?file=/Europa,%20G-HOFC%2005-08.pdf Regards Pete -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Joyce Sent: 18 August 2013 18:23 Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Wing lift and drag pins Sorry, don't see to have a name for you! I would very much advise putting the pin in the middle of the plates. When William Mills plane broke up in. Mid air on a Max weight VNe dive there were two things that failed and it was never decided which was the primary factor, (although I prefer the notion of the tail plane fixation having failed). However one was that a front lift pin had been drilled into the front edges of the 3 plates in the wing root, reaching the edge of one and overlapping another, which meant that it was taking considerable strains on a metal to fibreglass joint which is not in the owner's long term interests! That is not exactly a reason for being central but a very good reason for not being anywhere near the edge as I dare say that you cannot know precisely where the deeper plates are situated. Regards, David Joyce, G- XSDJ On Sun, 18 Aug 2013 04:36:20 -0700 "spcialeffects" wrote: > > > One other question please. The instruction page above >says to drill the flap pin in the middle of the plates >but the combined manual gives an off centre position. Why >is there a difference of position and which is best to >use? > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=406953#406953 > > > > > > > >Un/Subscription, >Forums! >Admin. > > > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Houxou, and is believed to be clean. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:47:14 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Navaid Servo From: Kelvin Cobb Hi, I know it's a long shot but does anyone on the forum have any idea where I can get a navaid servo? I have the AP-1 head already installed/linked to the GPS, but unfortunately there was no sign of the servo when I purchased the aircraft..... Any help gratefully received. Kelvin (G-BZAM) Sent from my iPad ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:10:01 PM PST US From: Martin Tuck Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Wing lift and drag pins So the purpose of diving to VNe as part of the annual inspection is to determine what? Martin Tuck Europa N152MT Wichita, Kansas On 8/19/2013 8:25 AM, Pete Lawless wrote: > > Afternoon All > > I recommend the following link for the official report into the in flight > break up. > > http://www.aaib.gov.uk/cms_resources.cfm?file=/Europa,%20G-HOFC%2005-08.pdf > > Regards > > Pete > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Joyce > Sent: 18 August 2013 18:23 > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Wing lift and drag pins > > > > Sorry, don't see to have a name for you! I would very > much advise putting the pin in the middle of the plates. > When William Mills plane broke up in. Mid air on a Max > weight VNe dive there were two things that failed and it > was never decided which was the primary factor, (although > I prefer the notion of the tail plane fixation having > failed). However one was that a front lift pin had been > drilled into the front edges of the 3 plates in the wing > root, reaching the edge of one and overlapping another, > which meant that it was taking considerable strains on a > metal to fibreglass joint which is not in the owner's long > term interests! That is not exactly a reason for being > central but a very good reason for not being anywhere near > the edge as I dare say that you cannot know precisely > where the deeper plates are situated. > Regards, David Joyce, G- XSDJ > > On Sun, 18 Aug 2013 04:36:20 -0700 > "spcialeffects" wrote: >> >> >> One other question please. The instruction page above >> says to drill the flap pin in the middle of the plates >> but the combined manual gives an off centre position. Why >> is there a difference of position and which is best to >> use? >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=406953#406953 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Un/Subscription, >> Forums! >> Admin. >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:49:30 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Navaid Servo From: Paul McAllister I believe that the Trio servo is compatible. Give them a call On Monday, August 19, 2013, Kelvin Cobb wrote: > > > > > Hi, I know it's a long shot but does anyone on the forum have any idea > where I can get a navaid servo? I have the AP-1 head already > installed/linked to the GPS, but unfortunately there was no sign of the > servo when I purchased the aircraft..... > > Any help gratefully received. > > Kelvin (G-BZAM) > > Sent from my iPad > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.