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1. 02:42 AM - Re: Re: Which Fuel Flow Meter for Europa (Raimo Toivio)
2. 03:11 AM - Re: Re: Daily Mail report of father and daughter fatality (Raimo Toivio)
3. 03:18 AM - Fw: Re: Daily Mail report of father and daughter fatality (Raimo Toivio)
4. 08:53 AM - Classic radiator(s) needed (Richard Lamprey)
5. 09:13 AM - Re: Classic radiator(s) needed (Paul McAllister)
6. 12:44 PM - LAA Rally merchandise mistake (houlihan)
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| Subject: | Re: Which Fuel Flow Meter for Europa |
Please do not trust Wi Fi or Bluetooth or anything
like this when essential!
Raimo
-----Alkuperinen viesti-----
From: Alan Carter
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 11:25 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Re: Which Fuel Flow Meter
for Europa
<alancarteresq@onetel.net>
Hi All.
Some help on this please,
Where did you take your power supply for the gauge
from.
And where did you take the power supply for the
sender from.
I take it the gauge and sender have one hard wire
connection to send the data up to the gauge, or is
there a Wi Fi version.
Regards.
Alan
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| Subject: | Re: Daily Mail report of father and daughter fatality |
This is very sad. Our thoughts are with that
family.
***
I have something to report about the accident
plane. This is a bit scary but I have known over
11 years that it is maybe not so well built (at
least it is fast built).
My building process was around its mid when
visited EAA Sweden fly-in in Barkarby 2002. Our
family friend Bob Harrison was there as well as
Mr. Keith Wilson with his huge cameras and extra
thick wallet but thats an another story.
G-GBXS was there. It looked very nice, almost a
show finished plane (actually, there was a show).
I was very curious whats there under the hatches.
To learn something I took a screwdriver and opened
all the possible hatches and covers to visit
inside. That was awful. I was a novice but
understood this is something I definetely would
and will do better. Look attachments. Very
careless. Dirty. Corrosion. A Fuel pump area was
like a spiders nest. That inspection happened 1st
of June 2002. I got new standards to finish my
plane.
I underline my observations have maybe nothing to
do with XS flight safety nor that accident and
all these invisible details have maybe and
hopefully fixed years ago to equal better level
and higher standards.
Build carefull - make beauty first inside then
outside!
Raimo Toivio
# 417 OH-XRT
Finland
+ 358 - 3 - 3753 777
-----Alkuperinen viesti-----
From: David Joyce
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Daily Mail report of
father and daughter fatality
<davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk>
The fact that the wreckage seems to be all
together would
argue against a mid air structural failure. Very
sad
indeed. David Joyce. G-XSDJ
On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 09:07:01 -0700
"Alan Carter" <alancarteresq@onetel.net> wrote:
> <alancarteresq@onetel.net>
>
> Hello All.
> The crash occurred a couple of days ago, the
> aircraft is,
> G-GBXS, Mono, 914, crashed killing two on board
> about 300 to 500 m short of runway.
> Built in 1998. look like an Ex Europa
> Demonstrator, see photo in G info.
> It is really sad, the brother was watching the
> plane when it crashed.
>>From the photo, my guess only, it looks like a
>>stall or spin impacted ,
> or Structural failure as the plane looks like it
> hit the ground hard and flat.
> We will have to wait for the inspection to get
> the answer.
> Anyway it is tragic misfortune for the family.
> Regards.
> Alan
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=407357#407357
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| Subject: | Re: Daily Mail report of father and daughter fatality |
I forgot the attachment, sorry!
Notice for example both accus (batteries) were
loose and not fastened at all.
RT
-----Alkuper=E4inen viesti-----
From: Raimo Toivio
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 1:10 PM
Cc: Raimo Toivio
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Daily Mail report of
father and daughter fatality
This is very sad. Our thoughts are with that
family.
***
I have something to report about the accident
plane. This is a bit scary but I have known over
11 years that it is maybe not so well built (at
least it is fast built).
My building process was around it=B4s mid when
visited EAA Sweden fly-in in Barkarby 2002. Our
family friend Bob Harrison was there as well as
Mr. Keith Wilson with his huge cameras and extra
thick wallet but that=B4s an another story.
G-GBXS was there. It looked very nice, almost a
show finished plane (actually, there was a show).
I was very curious what=B4s there under the hatches.
To learn something I took a screwdriver and opened
all the possible hatches and covers to visit
inside. That was awful. I was a novice but
understood this is something I definetely would
and will do better. Look attachments. Very
careless. Dirty. Corrosion. A Fuel pump area was
like a spider=B4s nest. That inspection happened 1st
of June 2002. I got new standards to finish my
plane.
I underline my observations have maybe nothing to
do with XS=B4 flight safety nor that accident and
all these invisible details have maybe and
hopefully fixed years ago to equal better level
and higher standards.
Build carefull - make beauty first inside then
outside!
Raimo Toivio
# 417 OH-XRT
Finland
+ 358 - 3 - 3753 777
-----Alkuper=E4inen viesti-----
From: David Joyce
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Daily Mail report of
father and daughter fatality
<davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk>
The fact that the wreckage seems to be all
together would
argue against a mid air structural failure. Very
sad
indeed. David Joyce. G-XSDJ
On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 09:07:01 -0700
"Alan Carter" <alancarteresq@onetel.net> wrote:
> <alancarteresq@onetel.net>
>
> Hello All.
> The crash occurred a couple of days ago, the
> aircraft is,
> G-GBXS, Mono, 914, crashed killing two on board
> about 300 to 500 m short of runway.
> Built in 1998. look like an Ex Europa
> Demonstrator, see photo in G info.
> It is really sad, the brother was watching the
> plane when it crashed.
>>From the photo, my guess only, it looks like a
>>stall or spin impacted ,
> or Structural failure as the plane looks like it
> hit the ground hard and flat.
> We will have to wait for the inspection to get
> the answer.
> Anyway it is tragic misfortune for the family.
> Regards.
> Alan
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=407357#407357
>
>
>Un/Subscription,
>Forums!
>Admin.
>
>
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| Subject: | Classic radiator(s) needed |
Greetings from Kenya
Does anyone have a spare starboard classic radiator? I could buy the pair if you
are selling as a pair. I have a UK address to send to if necessary.
My starboard radiator has sprung a small leak. Has anyone tried Radweld or something
similar?
Best,
Richard
Classic reg 5Y-LRY
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| Subject: | Re: Classic radiator(s) needed |
Hi,
I took my XS radiator to a repair shop and they aluminum brazed & pressure
tested it for $50.00. Another, less appealing alternative is that when I
was researching this I found several examples of JB weld (Black)
successfully being used.
Paul
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| Subject: | LAA Rally merchandise mistake |
Hi.
At the Europa club marquee today someone picked up the wrong bag of goodies.
If you were there today and had some shopping in a white plastic bag could
you check the contents and if it contains along with other things three
polo shirts embroidered with the registration G-BZTH then you have
inadvertently picked up the wrong bag.
Please let me Tim Houlihan know at houlihan@blueyonder.co.uk
Thanks
Tim
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