---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 08/31/13: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:42 AM - Re: Re: Which Fuel Flow Meter for Europa (Raimo Toivio) 2. 03:11 AM - Re: Re: Daily Mail report of father and daughter fatality (Raimo Toivio) 3. 03:18 AM - Fw: Re: Daily Mail report of father and daughter fatality (Raimo Toivio) 4. 08:53 AM - Classic radiator(s) needed (Richard Lamprey) 5. 09:13 AM - Re: Classic radiator(s) needed (Paul McAllister) 6. 12:44 PM - LAA Rally merchandise mistake (houlihan) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:42:30 AM PST US From: "Raimo Toivio" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Which Fuel Flow Meter for Europa Please do not trust Wi Fi or Bluetooth or anything like this when essential! Raimo -----Alkuperinen viesti----- From: Alan Carter Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 11:25 PM Subject: Europa-List: Re: Which Fuel Flow Meter for Europa Hi All. Some help on this please, Where did you take your power supply for the gauge from. And where did you take the power supply for the sender from. I take it the gauge and sender have one hard wire connection to send the data up to the gauge, or is there a Wi Fi version. Regards. Alan .. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=407383#407383 browse Un/Subscription, FAQ, http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List Forums! List Admin. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:11:21 AM PST US From: "Raimo Toivio" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Daily Mail report of father and daughter fatality This is very sad. Our thoughts are with that family. *** I have something to report about the accident plane. This is a bit scary but I have known over 11 years that it is maybe not so well built (at least it is fast built). My building process was around its mid when visited EAA Sweden fly-in in Barkarby 2002. Our family friend Bob Harrison was there as well as Mr. Keith Wilson with his huge cameras and extra thick wallet but thats an another story. G-GBXS was there. It looked very nice, almost a show finished plane (actually, there was a show). I was very curious whats there under the hatches. To learn something I took a screwdriver and opened all the possible hatches and covers to visit inside. That was awful. I was a novice but understood this is something I definetely would and will do better. Look attachments. Very careless. Dirty. Corrosion. A Fuel pump area was like a spiders nest. That inspection happened 1st of June 2002. I got new standards to finish my plane. I underline my observations have maybe nothing to do with XS flight safety nor that accident and all these invisible details have maybe and hopefully fixed years ago to equal better level and higher standards. Build carefull - make beauty first inside then outside! Raimo Toivio # 417 OH-XRT Finland + 358 - 3 - 3753 777 -----Alkuperinen viesti----- From: David Joyce Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 7:23 PM Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Daily Mail report of father and daughter fatality The fact that the wreckage seems to be all together would argue against a mid air structural failure. Very sad indeed. David Joyce. G-XSDJ On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 09:07:01 -0700 "Alan Carter" wrote: > > > Hello All. > The crash occurred a couple of days ago, the > aircraft is, > G-GBXS, Mono, 914, crashed killing two on board > about 300 to 500 m short of runway. > Built in 1998. look like an Ex Europa > Demonstrator, see photo in G info. > It is really sad, the brother was watching the > plane when it crashed. >>From the photo, my guess only, it looks like a >>stall or spin impacted , > or Structural failure as the plane looks like it > hit the ground hard and flat. > We will have to wait for the inspection to get > the answer. > Anyway it is tragic misfortune for the family. > Regards. > Alan > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=407357#407357 > > >Un/Subscription, >Forums! >Admin. > > browse Un/Subscription, FAQ, http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List Forums! List Admin. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:18:02 AM PST US From: "Raimo Toivio" Subject: Fw: Europa-List: Re: Daily Mail report of father and daughter fatality I forgot the attachment, sorry! Notice for example both accus (batteries) were loose and not fastened at all. RT -----Alkuper=E4inen viesti----- From: Raimo Toivio Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 1:10 PM Cc: Raimo Toivio Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Daily Mail report of father and daughter fatality This is very sad. Our thoughts are with that family. *** I have something to report about the accident plane. This is a bit scary but I have known over 11 years that it is maybe not so well built (at least it is fast built). My building process was around it=B4s mid when visited EAA Sweden fly-in in Barkarby 2002. Our family friend Bob Harrison was there as well as Mr. Keith Wilson with his huge cameras and extra thick wallet but that=B4s an another story. G-GBXS was there. It looked very nice, almost a show finished plane (actually, there was a show). I was very curious what=B4s there under the hatches. To learn something I took a screwdriver and opened all the possible hatches and covers to visit inside. That was awful. I was a novice but understood this is something I definetely would and will do better. Look attachments. Very careless. Dirty. Corrosion. A Fuel pump area was like a spider=B4s nest. That inspection happened 1st of June 2002. I got new standards to finish my plane. I underline my observations have maybe nothing to do with XS=B4 flight safety nor that accident and all these invisible details have maybe and hopefully fixed years ago to equal better level and higher standards. Build carefull - make beauty first inside then outside! Raimo Toivio # 417 OH-XRT Finland + 358 - 3 - 3753 777 -----Alkuper=E4inen viesti----- From: David Joyce Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 7:23 PM Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Daily Mail report of father and daughter fatality The fact that the wreckage seems to be all together would argue against a mid air structural failure. Very sad indeed. David Joyce. G-XSDJ On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 09:07:01 -0700 "Alan Carter" wrote: > > > Hello All. > The crash occurred a couple of days ago, the > aircraft is, > G-GBXS, Mono, 914, crashed killing two on board > about 300 to 500 m short of runway. > Built in 1998. look like an Ex Europa > Demonstrator, see photo in G info. > It is really sad, the brother was watching the > plane when it crashed. >>From the photo, my guess only, it looks like a >>stall or spin impacted , > or Structural failure as the plane looks like it > hit the ground hard and flat. > We will have to wait for the inspection to get > the answer. > Anyway it is tragic misfortune for the family. > Regards. > Alan > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=407357#407357 > > >Un/Subscription, >Forums! >Admin. > > browse Un/Subscription, FAQ, http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List Forums! List Admin. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:53:53 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Classic radiator(s) needed From: "Richard Lamprey" Greetings from Kenya Does anyone have a spare starboard classic radiator? I could buy the pair if you are selling as a pair. I have a UK address to send to if necessary. My starboard radiator has sprung a small leak. Has anyone tried Radweld or something similar? Best, Richard Classic reg 5Y-LRY Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=407814#407814 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:13:49 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Classic radiator(s) needed From: Paul McAllister Hi, I took my XS radiator to a repair shop and they aluminum brazed & pressure tested it for $50.00. Another, less appealing alternative is that when I was researching this I found several examples of JB weld (Black) successfully being used. Paul ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:44:27 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: LAA Rally merchandise mistake From: houlihan Hi. At the Europa club marquee today someone picked up the wrong bag of goodies. If you were there today and had some shopping in a white plastic bag could you check the contents and if it contains along with other things three polo shirts embroidered with the registration G-BZTH then you have inadvertently picked up the wrong bag. 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