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1. 12:43 AM - Re: My Longest flight (David Joyce)
2. 01:27 AM - Re: europa-List: Re: Factory upholstery kit (Richard Iddon)
3. 01:27 AM - Re: My Longest flight (GRAHAM SINGLETON)
4. 01:37 AM - Impact absorbing foam and reed switches (alan.twigg775@gmail.com)
5. 02:19 AM - Re: europa-List: Re: Factory upholstery kit (GRAHAM SINGLETON)
6. 03:14 AM - Re: europa-List: Re: Factory upholstery kit (Richard Iddon)
7. 05:36 AM - Re: Re: Factory upholstery kit (richard)
8. 08:21 AM - europa-List: Re: Factory upholstery kit (AirEupora)
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Subject: | Re: My Longest flight |
Thomas, Received on forum and a big welcome back, David
Joyce, G-XSDJ
On Sat, 14 Sep 2013 12:33:48 +0100
Thomas Scherer <thomas@scherer.com> wrote:
> having changed from webbased mailer to thunderbird as
>mail client, this is a test to the forum. Was hitherto
>unable to post to the forum.
>
> greetings, Thomas, N81EU
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: Fwd: Europa-List: My Longest flight
> Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2013 17:02:22 +0100
>From: Graeme Bird <graeme@gdbmk.co.uk>
> To: thomas@scherer.com
>
>
>
> Ha, ha thanks for the email. Why cant you post to forum,
>company
> firewall/policy?
>
> Regards Graeme
>
> On 07/09/2013 11:00, Thomas Scherer wrote:
>> Graeme,
>>
>> long flights are addictive ! Congrats.
>>
>> One anectode from my longest flight nonstop Alaska to
>>Japan with 20 hrs and 50 mins: I was on freq 123.45 Mhz
>>which is for air-to-air over the bodies of water.
>>
>> Talked to a Northwest Airliner B747 and as I was in the
>>weather asked him when I could expect to break out. Gave
>>him my lat/lon and he told me that 50 nm further I will
>>be in the clear. He asked then when I'd expect Japan.
>>Told him: 14 hrs to go. Quite a surprised voice came
>>back: "what type aircraft are you flying there ?". Told
>>him to be in a little homebuild burning 2.5 gals of fuel
>>an hour. His voice - again puzzled - when he repsonded
>>"Wow, sheeet we're burning 120 gals a minute here".
>>
>> As I cannot post to the forum - feel free to relay.
>>
>> be well
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------Forwarded message------------
>> From: europa-list@matronics.com
>> Date: Sep 4, 2013 04:39:00 PM
>> Subject: Europa-List: My Longest flight
>> To: europa-list@matronics.com
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>>graeme@gdbmk.co.uk>
>>
>> My longest single continuous flight today, 3:20 370nm,
>>53ltrs. Comfortable enough. Luton over Cader Idris to
>>Bardsley Isle at the end of the Lynn Northwales, back
>>just over Snowden. Fab.
>>
>> --------
>> Graeme Bird
>> G-UMPY
>> Mono Classic/XS 912S/Woodcomp 3000/3W
>> Newby: 75 hours 18 months
>> g(at)gdbmk.co.uk
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
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>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=408021#408021
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Subject: | Re: europa-List: Re: Factory upholstery kit |
I had a similar experience. Couldn't sit on it for more than an hour without my
nether regions going numb.
Richard Iddon
G-RIXS
On 14 Sep 2013, at 20:36, rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us wrote:
> Hi Group
>
> I don't have personal experience flying in colder weather with temperfoam, but
Richard who flies a Europa upstate NY got rid of his because it got too hard
for his likes in the cold.
>
> Ron Parigoris
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> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List
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Subject: | Re: My Longest flight |
Thomas=0Agood to see you back! How is Camaroon?=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A__________
______________________=0A From: David Joyce <davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk>=0AT
o: europa-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Sunday, 15 September 2013, 8:42=0ASub
ject: Re: Europa-List: My Longest flight=0A =0A=0A--> Europa-List message p
osted by: "David Joyce" <davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk>=0A=0AThomas, Received o
n forum and a big welcome back, David Joyce, G-XSDJ=0A=0A=0AOn Sat, 14 Sep
2013 12:33:48 +0100=0AThomas Scherer <thomas@scherer.com> wrote:=0A> having
changed from webbased mailer to thunderbird as mail client, this is a test
to the forum. Was hitherto unable to post to the forum.=0A> =0A> greetings
, Thomas, N81EU=0A> =0A> =0A> -------- Original Message --------=0A> Subjec
t: --- Re: Fwd: Europa-List: My Longest flight=0A> Date: --- Sa
t, 07 Sep 2013 17:02:22 +0100=0A> From: --- Graeme Bird <graeme@gdbmk
.co.uk>=0A> To: --- thomas@scherer.com=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> Ha, ha than
ks for the email. Why cant you post to forum, company=0A> firewall/policy?
=0A> =0A> Regards Graeme=0A> =0A> On 07/09/2013 11:00, Thomas Scherer wrote
:=0A>> Graeme,=0A>> =0A>> long flights are addictive ! Congrats.=0A>> =0A>>
One anectode from my longest flight nonstop Alaska to Japan with 20 hrs an
d 50 mins: I was on freq 123.45 Mhz which is for air-to-air over the bodies
of water.=0A>> =0A>> Talked to a Northwest Airliner B747 and as I was in t
he weather asked him when I could expect to break out. Gave him my lat/lon
and he told me that 50 nm further I will be in the clear. He asked then whe
n I'd expect Japan. Told him: 14 hrs to go. Quite a surprised voice came ba
ck: "what type aircraft are you flying there ?". Told him to be in a little
homebuild burning 2.5 gals of fuel an hour. His voice - again puzzled - wh
en he repsonded "Wow, sheeet we're burning 120 gals a minute here".=0A>>
=0A>> As I cannot post to the forum - feel free to relay.=0A>> =0A>> be wel
l=0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> ------------Forwarded message---------
---=0A>> From: europa-list@matronics.com=0A>> Date: Sep 4, 2013 04:39:00 PM
=0A>> Subject: Europa-List: My Longest flight=0A>> To: europa-list@matronic
bmk.co.uk>=0A>> =0A>> My longest single continuous flight today, 3:20 370nm
, 53ltrs. Comfortable enough. Luton over Cader Idris to Bardsley Isle at th
e end of the Lynn Northwales, back just over Snowden. Fab.=0A>> =0A>> -----
---=0A>> Graeme Bird=0A>> G-UMPY=0A>> Mono Classic/XS 912S/Woodcomp 3000/3W
=0A>> Newby: 75 hours 18 months=0A>> g(at)gdbmk.co.uk=0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>
> =0A>> Read this topic online here:=0A>> =0A>> http://forums.matronics.com
/viewtopic.php?p=408021#408021=0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> Attachments:
=0A>> =0A>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc04664_1_213.jpg=0A>> http
://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc043901_112.jpg=0A>> http://forums.matroni
cs.com//files/dsc045591_125.jpg=0A>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc
046101_186.jpg=0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A> =0A> =0A
> =0A> -----=0A> No virus found in this message.=0A> Checked by AVG - www.a
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Subject: | Impact absorbing foam and reed switches |
The online shop for the British Gliding Association sells seat sized pieces of both densities of foam. The BGA strongly recommend impact absorbing foam, which to my knowledge has saved many backs. BGA site is www.gliding.co.uk
On reed switches, I had a wiring system designed for Tim Houlahan by Robin Morton.
This employs micro switches but I scratched my head raw trying to get the
down latch to strike a switch. My other requirement was to hide the switches in
the tunnel. The solution that worked has a reed switch supported in paxolene
shaped within the tunnel, with several disc magnets within a hole at the lower
most point the latch falls.
Having really struggled to repair a broken cable, I have built the whole set of
switches onto a module that mounts on the screws used to mount the aluminium
undercarriage gate. Since I have Motorglider wings this is enlarged to accommodate
the airbrake lever.
I will try to attach photos when I work out how.
Alan Twigg
(Twiggy)
Motorglider kit 463.
Wings ready to fill
Panel built engine and prop (Airmaster) on.
Fuselage just about ready to paint.
Completion possibly before Motorglider approved in UK.
Sent from my iPhone
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Subject: | Re: europa-List: Re: Factory upholstery kit |
that's the advantage of a bean bag, just shuffle a bit and the shape adjust
s=0Ato the new profile of your backside. In a bump the beans crush and abso
rb energy.=0AThat came from Farnborough via the BGA donkeys years ago.=0AGr
aham=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Richard Iddon <riddo
n@sent.com>=0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Sunday, 15 September 2
013, 9:27=0ASubject: Re: Europa-List: europa-List: Re: Factory upholstery k
om>=0A=0AI had a similar experience. Couldn't sit on it for more than an ho
ur without my nether regions going numb.=0A=0ARichard Iddon =0A=0AG-RIXS=0A
On 14 Sep 2013, at 20:36, rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us wrote:=0A=0A> Hi Group
=0A> =0A> I don't have personal experience flying in colder weather with te
mperfoam, but Richard who flies a Europa upstate NY got rid of his because
it got too hard for his likes in the cold.=0A> =0A> Ron Parigoris=0A> =0A>
=0A> =0A> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List=0A> =0A> http://fo
rums.matronics.com=0A> =0A> http://www.matronics.com/contribution=0A> =0A>
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Subject: | Re: europa-List: Re: Factory upholstery kit |
Do you have a source for a small bean bag Graham or is it a case of DIY? I just
googled it and could only find giant things.
Richard
On 15 Sep 2013, at 10:18, GRAHAM SINGLETON <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com> wrote:
> that's the advantage of a bean bag, just shuffle a bit and the shape adjusts
> to the new profile of your backside. In a bump the beans crush and absorb energy.
> That came from Farnborough via the BGA donkeys years ago.
> Graham
>
> From: Richard Iddon <riddon@sent.com>
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Sunday, 15 September 2013, 9:27
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: europa-List: Re: Factory upholstery kit
>
>
> I had a similar experience. Couldn't sit on it for more than an hour without
my nether regions going numb.
>
> Richard Iddon
>
> G-RIXS
> On 14 Sep 2013, at 20:36, rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us wrote:
>
> > Hi Group
> >
> > I don't have personal experience flying in colder weather with temperfoam,
but Richard who flies a Europa upstate NY got rid of his because it got too hard
for his likes in the cold.
> >
> > Ron Parigoris
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com
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> > http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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Subject: | Re: Factory upholstery kit |
Hi Kelvin
I found the solution to your problem was to make two cushion shaped seat
backs in 3mm ply wood. I covered both sides with bid and re-enforced with 2
lengths of 1/2 inch tube approx 12 inches apart running down about 12 inches
of the back surface and extending about 1 inches from the bottom edge. I
made 2 holes in the 3mm ply wood seat floor for the extended re-enforcement
tubes to locate at an angle that best suited my comfort and cut out the
profile of the wing pins on each side . I just lay the seat cushion back up
against these back rests and hold them in place with the Velcro flap at the
top and the seat cushion at the base, problem solved. It would be possible
to add further holes in the seat base to alter the seat position but I have
not found it necessary.
Best of luck Richard
-----Original Message-----
From: Kelvin Weston
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 9:09 AM
Subject: Europa-List: Re: Factory upholstery kit
on.biz>
Thanks Keith / Ron
You have confirmed my thoughts about the seat back cushion.
I spoke with Ingrid at Auto-Trim, the company that makes the factory kit and
she sent me this reply regarding the conflict with the wing spar pins:
Having seen the aircraft, the position of the pins and the comments from
potential customers I have made the decision to modify the pattern and cut
away the foam in that area and re shape the cover accordingly.
Good to hear, a bit late for those that have already purchased a kit or
seats and still doesn't address the potential problem of the gap between the
bottom of the seat back and the cockpit module.
At the moment, I am investigating some local upholstery businesses to see
what they can offer and at what price. Living near to the sailing areas of
Portsmouth and The Solent, there are lots of marine upholsterers that have
shown an interest. I have also approached some car and vehicle trimmers.
To assess what I wanted from the seat cushions, I purchased some foam from a
company that will cut any shape and size for you either regular shapes, or
to your supplied template. I had some rectangles cut to the required
thickness for the main part of the seat base and seat back and also some
trapezium and triangle shaped bits for under the knees and as an infill for
the gap at the lower back.
I glued the various bits together to form the two cushions and cut the back
to the headrest shape. They look good even without covers, are really
comfortable to sit on and should give me a good template to take to the
upholsterer. I will probably substitute some Dynafoam or Confor foam for
the seat base in the final configuration.
I ordered enough foam for two seats to allow a bit of experimenting and this
only cost 20 uk pounds. Well worth the expense and time getting it right if
I'm going to spend several hundreds on the final upholstered article.
--------
Regards
Kelv Weston
Kit 497
kelv@kdweston.biz
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Subject: | Re: europa-List: Re: Factory upholstery kit |
I bought the foam for my seats at the following URL:
> http://www.seatfoam.com/aviation.htm
They have three different firmness and they are heat activated. Just like ski
boots. It a little on the pricey side, but they work.
I need to put a lumbar support on my airplane and one more layer of the dense foam
as I'll hit bottom after an hour of flight time. There are three colors .
Pink real soft, green middle and then the hard Blue. I'm 250 lbs and I fly
in a warm climate.
Rick Stockton
N120EJ
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