---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 09/27/13: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:56 AM - Re: Re: No Title (Frans Veldman) 2. 02:20 AM - Re: Changing capacitance probes to float sensors. (GRAHAM SINGLETON) 3. 03:55 AM - Re: Mag drop (Christoph Both) 4. 05:39 AM - Re: Changing capacitance probes to float sensors. (gtagr) 5. 10:11 AM - (Frans Veldman) 6. 11:26 AM - New Instrument Panel ? (Thomas Scherer) 7. 11:44 AM - Re: New Instrument Panel ? (Donald Cameron) 8. 09:48 PM - Re: New Instrument Panel ? (duanefamly@aol.com) 9. 10:31 PM - Re: Re: No Title (Paul McAllister) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:56:27 AM PST US From: Frans Veldman Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: No Title Hi Raimo Toivio, > whats a minimum altitude which make sense when overflying The Alps? You can fly IN the Alps, and you can fly OVER the Alps. Personally, generally I fly over the Alps, except when I need to land in a field inside the Alps. Flying between the mountains instead of over them bring all sorts of risks, especially if you are unfamiliar with the area. Even when flying between the mountains, I will do that only if there are no clouds above and I always have the ability to climb out of nasty turbulence, upsloping valleys, or a traffic jam (I had one time had the pleasure of almost getting into a swarm of a dozen or so motorized hang gliders that suddenly appeared around the corner of some mountain peak.) See and avoid is a whole new game between the mountains, and radar doesn't get there so ATC is unable to advice, and the most traffic warn devices are transponder based but transponders remain silent when they are not triggered by radar. Local radio is useless as well as most local traffic tends to communicate in some sort of crypto-language instead of plain English. We've just installed Flarm because that is the only thing that offers some protection. About the altitude required, that depends a lot of the area you are crossing. For the area where Ilona's parents live you can get away with FL100, but for a straight line from Croatia to South Germany we had to climb to FL115 but even then we had to zig-zag here and there to miss the tallest mountain peaks. One warning here: if there is some wind, there are likely mountain waves. With the turbo it is generally possible to outclimb down washing area's (except when there is more than just some gently wind, it can drag you down with 1000ft per minute and in severe cases it can even suck down an airliner.) and of course it can also push you up. Have been flying there once with a C172 with the power at idle and quite a nose down attitude but still climbing with over 1000ft/minute. Not funny if you are passing FL120 in a hurry without oxygen on board. That was when I didn't had a clue about how mountain waves flow, with later insight I had easily got out of it if I just changed the heading 90 degrees. Some basic understanding how (invisable) mountain waves flow is really helpful. Always be prepared to turn around quickly if something undesirable happens (and one more reason to be above a valley rather than in it). There are interesting theories on the internet about the best way to turn around in a narrow valley (including stall turns etc) but the best way is to avoid getting into a situation where this is your only way out. Approach ridges always at an angle and never fly straight to them, this to make it easier to turn away if you are sucked down just before crossing (or hitting) the ridge. Anyway, mountain flying is a bit more risky than flying above a flat country with many pastures, but being aware of all the dangers keeps you sharp and helps to avoid nasty situations. I'm always looking for emergency landing spots and even adapt my routing to stay within range, but I have to admit that sometimes there isn't any suitable spot and if the engine dies you have a not so nice situation. I'm always relieved when I approach the next valley and it happens to be one with green pastures rather than one with just a rocky river at the bottom. Our Alps crossings to Croatia were uneventful, despite quite a nice wind that sent us with over 160 knots GS to the other side but didn't cause any turbulence or other nasty effects at all. Seen the picture I sent you about Ilona and the wild pig? Frans ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:20:45 AM PST US From: GRAHAM SINGLETON Subject: Re: Europa-List: Changing capacitance probes to float sensors. Yes, awkward, I'll send you a picture later. Short of time this AM.(ie I'm slower than the clok just now!=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________ ________=0A From: dpark =0ATo: europa-list@matronic s.com =0ASent: Thursday, 26 September 2013, 22:51=0ASubject: Europa-List: C hanging capacitance probes to float sensors.=0A =0A=0A--> Europa-List messa ge posted by: "dpark" =0A=0AThe bendable capacitanc e probes in my aircraft are fitted to the area in the flat space between th e headrests. =0AThe are bent to avoid the tunnel.=0AI find the are not accu rate enough and wish to change to float sensors.=0AHas anyone fitted float sensors that only go as deep as the tunnel?=0ADo the Float sensors use the same bolt spacing as the capacitance probes?=0AAny one with experience of c hanging system?=0ADave Park G-LDVO=0A=0A--------=0ADave Park=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A Read this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php == ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:55:20 AM PST US From: Christoph Both Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mag drop Plug leads are easily replaced (cut off nylon and twist off. New plug leads are $3.00 each. Rotax specifies a minimum "pull off" resistance for the pl ug lead to pull it off which if it can not be achieved (it will take quite some pull in my experience) required replacement of plug lead. Its in the H eavy Maintenance Manual. Christoph Both #223 Europa Classic ULS Flying since SEPT 19, 6hrs From: Bob Harrison > ropa-list@matronics.com> ist@matronics.com> Subject: RE: Europa-List: Mag drop Hi! Karl, it sound stupidly simple but I recently twice had a plug lead fal l off ? I have now fitted plastic cable ties as vertical restrainers. Regards Bob Harrison G-PTAG From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Karl Heindl Sent: 27 September 2013 00:00 Subject: Europa-List: Mag drop I have excessive mag drop on one magneto and am not sure where to look for the problem. Would anyone have any guidelines for this ? I have someone's c ourse notes which state that: if you pull the choke while running on the ba d mag, and if there is any change in rpm, then it is most likely a carb pro blem. If there is no change then it is an ignition problem. I get an increa se in rpm. The engine ran fine 12 months ago. Since then I changed and re-arranged all fuel lines. How would I identify the faulty carburetor ? And then what do I look for ? Any hints greatly appreciated. Karl http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:39:18 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Changing capacitance probes to float sensors. From: "gtagr" Hi Dave, I have one capacitance probe in the right 'reserve' side of G-TAGR and the older float type in the 'main' left side. I find the capacitance type useful for accuracy and I rather like the fact that they go full scale if you inadvertently load any water into the (main filler RHS) of the tank. I find the older magnet float type rather inaccurate. I've not changed one for the other but based on look only, I'd say they are different. Placement of the hole would seem to be the most important thing. I hope that helps somehow. Clive. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=409335#409335 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:11:11 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: From: Frans Veldman Find the cumulus granitus=2E -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail =2E Please excuse my brevity=2E ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:26:51 AM PST US From: Thomas Scherer Subject: Europa-List: New Instrument Panel ? In the news segment of Europa Aviation is a mention of a redesigned Instrument Panel. http://www.europa-aircraft.co.uk/news/item/new-europa-instrument-panel Has it ever made it into production ? ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:44:41 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: New Instrument Panel ? From: Donald Cameron Hi I believe it is very close to being ready as I had enquired about it when they first released the images of it. I received an email from Karen at europa about 2 weeks ago asking if i was still interested as it was very close to being ready for general sale. It is too late for me now as my existing panel is about to be installed. I may consider a change in the future if I think its necessary. Kind regards Donald Sent from my iPhone On 27 Sep 2013, at 19:26, Thomas Scherer wrote: > > In the news segment of Europa Aviation is a mention of a redesigned Instrument Panel. > > http://www.europa-aircraft.co.uk/news/item/new-europa-instrument-panel > > Has it ever made it into production ? > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:48:37 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: New Instrument Panel ? From: duanefamly@aol.com >From the look of it, I suppose one would have to replace the instrument pan el module. Is this true? Mike Duane -----Original Message----- From: Donald Cameron Sent: Fri, Sep 27, 2013 3:47 pm Subject: Re: Europa-List: New Instrument Panel ? > Hi I believe it is very close to being ready as I had enquired about it when t hey first released the images of it. I received an email from Karen at europa about 2 weeks ago asking if i was still interested as it was very close to being ready for general sale. It is too late for me now as my existing panel is about to be installed. I may consider a change in the future if I think its necessary. Kind regards Donald Sent from my iPhone On 27 Sep 2013, at 19:26, Thomas Scherer wrote: > > In the news segment of Europa Aviation is a mention of a redesigned Instr ument Panel. > > http://www.europa-aircraft.co.uk/news/item/new-europa-instrument-panel > > Has it ever made it into production ? > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:31:39 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: No Title From: Paul McAllister On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Raimo Toivio wrote: > > Thanks Paul! > > I felt it was almost like reading Reader=B4s Digests...but not so boring and > this time even happily completely free (normally here 750 euros /hour > 1014 US $ /hour). Raimo=B4s hands were shaking but fortunately he was sit ting > on the back seat with kids. 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