---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 10/17/13: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:28 AM - Just for the record (Kingsley Hurst) 2. 02:56 AM - Re: Just for the record (GRAHAM SINGLETON) 3. 05:13 AM - Re: MOD 78 (h&jeuropa) 4. 07:02 AM - Re: Re: MOD 78 (Kevin Klinefelter) 5. 10:38 AM - Re: Bliss (goff) 6. 12:54 PM - Re: SB15-v- clamps (Patrick Tunney) 7. 03:13 PM - Europa Stabilator torque tube clamps to prevent slop between port and starboard. (Bob Harrison) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:28:32 AM PST US From: "Kingsley Hurst" Subject: Europa-List: Just for the record Fellow Europaphiles We (my wife and I) have recently returned from a 3 week trip away in our Europa. Unfortunately, not the one I have been building for years but one purchased by one of my sons and me. We were very fortunate in finding this aircraft because it is at least equal to the best example in Australia. I live in South East Queensland and the trip firstly took us North to Rockhampton, then to Mount Isa (NW Qld), across and up to the Atherton Tablelands in NE Qld, back to Rockhampton and then home again. While in Mount Isa, my eldest son and I did a trip up to Karumba (in the Gulf of Carpentaria) for lunch (Barramundi and Chips/Fries). Karumba is world renown for its prawn harvest but not so much this year owing to no wet season. If anyone ever doubts the ability of the Europa, please quote the following stats :- Europa 914 Mono AUW on trip = 621+ kg Climb power setting = 34" MAP and 5500 RPM Cruise power setting = 28"-29" MAP and 5000 RPM. Cruising altitude 8500 ft - 9500 ft depending on track direction.. Max cruising altitude 12000 ft (to get on top of very rough thermals and Cu - one leg only) Total Distance - 2519 nm (4665 km) Shortest leg - 208 nm (385 km) Longest leg - 484 nm (896 km) Total of 8 legs Total engine time = 19.5 hrs Total fuel used = 360 Lt (79 UK Gal, 95 US Gal) Fuel burn avg = 18.46 LPH (4 UK GPH, 4.9 US GPH) Comparing to a car . . . . Statute Miles per Gallon UK = 36.5 US = 30.5 Metric = 7.7 litres per 100km Average speed i.e. Total Dist over Total engine time = 129 kts (239 kph) If you see this Ivan, Congratulations. . . . . I'm most impressed with what you created and despite what has been said in the past about the Mono, I Love it! (so far anyway!) Landing in Mount Isa with 38C temp on hot bitumen/asphalt with a 15 kt crosswind at 90 degrees gusting to whatever, had me sitting on the edge of my seat with a very high pucker factor I can assure you but a good experience in the end. Cheers Kingsley in Oz ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:56:15 AM PST US From: GRAHAM SINGLETON Subject: Re: Europa-List: Just for the record Kingsley=0AGood to hear you're doing what the Europa was designed for! Do y ou ever hear from Mal McLure the original builder? =0AOften wonder how they are, Mal spent so much time building a work of art, then Cathy learnt to f ly it.=0ABe interesting to hear how your build compares with Mal's.=0AGraha m=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Kingsley Hurst =0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Thursday, 17 October 2013, 9:27=0ASubject: Europa-List: Just for the record=0A =0A om.au>=0A=0AFellow Europaphiles=0A=0AWe (my wife and I) have recently retur ned from a 3 week trip away in our Europa.- Unfortunately, not the one I have been building for years but one purchased by one of my sons and me.- We were very fortunate in finding this aircraft because it is at least equ al to the best example in Australia.=0A=0AI live in South East Queensland a nd the trip firstly took us North to Rockhampton, then to Mount Isa (NW Qld ), across and up to the Atherton Tablelands in NE Qld, back to Rockhampton and then home again.- While in Mount Isa, my eldest son and I did a trip up to Karumba (in the Gulf of Carpentaria) for lunch (Barramundi and Chips/ Fries).- Karumba is world renown for its prawn harvest but not so much th is year owing to no wet season.=0A=0AIf anyone ever doubts the ability of t he Europa, please quote the following stats :-=0A=0AEuropa 914 Mono=0AAUW o n trip = 621+ kg=0AClimb power setting = 34" MAP and 5500 RPM=0ACruise power setting =- 28"-29" MAP and 5000 RPM.=0A=0ACruising altitude 8500 ft - 9500 ft depending on track direction..=0AMax cruising altitude 12000 f t (to get on top of very rough thermals and=0ACu - one leg only)=0A=0ATotal Distance - 2519 nm (4665 km)=0AShortest leg - 208 nm- (385 km)=0ALongest leg - 484 nm- (896 km)=0ATotal of 8 legs=0A=0ATotal engine time = 19.5 hrs=0ATotal fuel used = 360 Lt- (79 UK Gal,- 95 US Gal)=0AFuel burn avg = 18.46 LPH- (4 UK GPH,- 4.9 US GPH)=0A=0AComparing to a car . . . .=0AStatute Miles per Gallon- UK = 36.5- - US = 30.5=0AMetric = 7.7 litres per 100km=0A=0AAverage speed i.e. Total Dist over Total eng ine time- =- 129 kts- (239 kph)=0A=0A=0AIf you see this Ivan, Congr atulations. . . . .- I'm most impressed with what you created and despite what has been said in the past about the Mono, I Love it! (so far anyway!) - Landing in Mount Isa with 38C temp on hot bitumen/asphalt with a 15 kt crosswind at 90 degrees gusting to whatever, had me sitting on the edge of my seat with a very high pucker factor I can assure you but a good experie =- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Matt Dralle ======== ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:13:09 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: MOD 78 From: "h&jeuropa" Hi Dave, We have a mono airplane & bought the glider wings to be able to switch between airplane & motorglider. We have 500 hours on the airplane but haven't done much work on the glider wings. We started Mod 78 and completed laying up the ropes (2 people can do 1 spar in a long day). Be sure to use Bud Yerly's notes in addition to the instructions from Europa. We had to redo the first spar because the orientation of the mold was not clear & we had the bump up instead of down. Clearance is very tight. After that, at Bud's suggestion, we checked clearances using the intensifier board as a template and found that the new wing spar will not fit - it contacts the flap actuator rod. This is only an issue for the mono airplane configuration (flaps actuated with gear retraction). Apparently the factory tested the mod on a pure mono glider and on a tri-gear airplane but not on a mono airplane. Because we (like you) don't want to screw up the wonderful flying characteristics of our Europa, and we have the added issue of re-engineering the flap actuator rod, we have stopped work on Mod 78 and are thinking of selling the glider wings. Jim & Heather Butcher N241BW Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=410737#410737 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:02:41 AM PST US From: Kevin Klinefelter Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: MOD 78 Jim and Heather, I hope you succeed in getting motorglider ability with your Mono-wheel. I still dream of long wings for mine.(let me know if you decide to sell them). Perhaps you could change to electric flaps? Or some kind of quick release to get the flap rod clearance needed when the long wings are on. Last week I shut down my 914 at 16,000 and feathered the Airmaster for a long glide. Not sure what the L/D is but it seems pretty decent to this old Hang Glider pilot. Did my first engine off landing too. Dave, have you ever computed the L/D of your long wings? Kevin N211KA 550 hours On Oct 17, 2013, at 5:12 AM, "h&jeuropa" wrote: > > Hi Dave, > > We have a mono airplane & bought the glider wings to be able to switch between airplane & motorglider. We have 500 hours on the airplane but haven't done much work on the glider wings. > > We started Mod 78 and completed laying up the ropes (2 people can do 1 spar in a long day). Be sure to use Bud Yerly's notes in addition to the instructions from Europa. We had to redo the first spar because the orientation of the mold was not clear & we had the bump up instead of down. Clearance is very tight. > > After that, at Bud's suggestion, we checked clearances using the intensifier board as a template and found that the new wing spar will not fit - it contacts the flap actuator rod. This is only an issue for the mono airplane configuration (flaps actuated with gear retraction). Apparently the factory tested the mod on a pure mono glider and on a tri-gear airplane but not on a mono airplane. > > Because we (like you) don't want to screw up the wonderful flying characteristics of our Europa, and we have the added issue of re-engineering the flap actuator rod, we have stopped work on Mod 78 and are thinking of selling the glider wings. > > Jim & Heather Butcher > N241BW > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=410737#410737 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:38:10 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Bliss From: "goff" Carl, I mounted the GoPro in my Mooney for the first time today. Got lots of vibration and jerky footage. So I must be lucky where I mount it in the Europa. Vibration comes from the suspension on the ground, the direct result of engine power and fuselage buffet when slowing up by raising the nose. How's your anti-vibration device coming along? Goff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=410757#410757 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:54:50 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: SB15-v- clamps From: "Patrick Tunney" I have had some further interest in the clamps. To keep upfront manufacturing costs down i need at least 4 interested builders / flyers. If interested please contact me through e-mail and i can explain the process and costs. Pat Tunney Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=410765#410765 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:13:30 PM PST US From: "Bob Harrison" Subject: Europa-List: Europa Stabilator torque tube clamps to prevent slop between port and starboard. Hi! All , I think it more than appropriate that I should seek to advise all Europa Owners that a later version of the Torque Tube original clamps is now available for interested Europa Owners to enquire and consider purchase. 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