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1. 03:06 AM - Re: Cockit ventilation (Richard Lamprey)
2. 06:20 AM - coolant and oil radiators (William Daniell)
3. 07:12 AM - Re: Re: Bliss (Carl Pattinson)
4. 07:25 AM - Re: Re: Bliss (Carl Pattinson)
5. 08:41 AM - Re: Cockit ventilation (spcialeffects)
6. 10:16 AM - Re: Re: Bliss (Carl Pattinson)
7. 10:17 AM - Re: coolant and oil radiators (Carl Pattinson)
8. 12:58 PM - Re: Re: MOD 78 (Neville Eyre)
9. 07:24 PM - Re: Re: MOD 78 (Sky Mail)
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| Subject: | Re: Cockit ventilation |
I have these Aircraft Spruce snapvents in my Europa classic in Kenya. One in each
side window (door). Roughly level with my head, slightly down. They work
a treat, by adjusting you can get air flowing through the cabin leftways or right.
Also, being removable, you can take them out for oblique aerial photography
(but only before flight, so don't want to fly in rain). The only problem
is that a determined person can remove them from outside, and access your door
handle from inside, or fish around if he a long gibbon-like arm. Can get pictures
of them, but nowhere near the plane till December. Best, Richard Kenya
Classic 168, reg 5Y-LRY
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| Subject: | coolant and oil radiators |
Again to the assembled wisdom.
I remember seeing that the optimum arrangement for the radiators is one
above the other.
Can someone send me pics / diagrams /description of how this is done.
Thanks
Will
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Hello Goff,
Apologies for the delay in responding but I have been away on holiday in
Ibiza with the family and have just returned. I didn=92t have access to
any of
my files so couldn=92t send anything.
Firstly I am sorry to hear about your radiator problems - hopefully you
will
be on your way towards sorting these out by now. My Europa is imminently
due
some major repairs/ servicing in that the undercarriage bearings and
shock
absorbers need replacing (and the engines annual service). An easy
enough
job though as with most things Europa its difficult to access. I am also
aware that despite the Loctite fix/ modwe are starting to develop play
in
one of the tail plane attachments so at best this will involve crawling
down
the back end and dismantling the tail plane tube assembly (I have done
this
twice before - not an easy job).
I had hoped to send you some video clips to show the before and after
results but the files are pretty large (even after editing) - about 10mb
and
20mb respectively. I know many email systems don=92t like such large
files and
I haven=92t got anything sorted with you tube as yet. Although I have
been
messing about for several years trying to get some decent flying footage
it
has always been sporadic due mainly to work commitments. Fortunately I
am
now retired (as of July) so will hopefully have more time to perfect
this
art. I purchased a copy of Sony Vegas Studio but have yet to master even
the
basics of editing - perhaps the program is more sophisticated than I
really
need - but having paid the money I am loathe to purchase something else
(I
know we are only talking about =A320 - =A350) but if I have something
that does
the job then its extra cost (and im a pensioner lol !)
I can see you have got to grips with editing and adding the music
soundtrack
- so far that bit is beyond me.
Regarding the anti vibration mount I put one together and tried it out a
couple of weeks ago - the results were very promising but as you can see
from the photos attached the mount itself is unduly cumbersome. This is
mainly due to my mounting a remote pan/ tilt head on the anti vibration
pad.
So there is a bit of work to be done there. The pan/tilt head is very
handy
to make minor adjustments but probably unnecessary.
I will update you when I have made some more progress.
I did see there was a guy selling a relatively cheap mount on Ebay (he
was
in Israel) but the results on his you tube video were impressive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q57e0-dc2w8 . Unfortunately I have
lost the
Ebay link to this and cant find the ad again - he was only selling these
for
about =A320 which was pretty reasonable.
I am also looking at the option of using my Canon DSLR (which has very
high
quality video) and has an inbuilt in stabiliser. I have found an android
application that allows remote control of the camera from my phone (via
an
USB cable) so other than mounting the camera in the aircraft should be
relatively simple (the anti vibration mount wouldn=92t be needed). This
could
then be operated easily in flight.
I note that GoPro have their own Android/ Apple application that allows
remote control of your GOPro camera from a phone/ tablet device. I think
its
free from what I recall.
Anyway I will update you once I have made some progress and we can
compare
notes.
Kind regards,
Carl
PS: Where are you based (ie: your aircraft) - White Waltham (im
guessing)
???
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of goff
Sent: 17 October 2013 18:36
Subject: Europa-List: Re: Bliss
Carl,
I mounted the GoPro in my Mooney for the first time today. Got lots of
vibration and jerky footage. So I must be lucky where I mount it in the
Europa.
Vibration comes from the suspension on the ground, the direct result of
engine power and fuselage buffet when slowing up by raising the nose.
How's your anti-vibration device coming along?
Goff
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Found it at last !
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ANTI-VIBRATION-300-camera-mount-heli-multicopter-/
111180765933?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19e2e3daed
I think its on Ebay UK as well.
Regards,
Carl
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of goff
Sent: 17 October 2013 18:36
Subject: Europa-List: Re: Bliss
Carl,
I mounted the GoPro in my Mooney for the first time today. Got lots of
vibration and jerky footage. So I must be lucky where I mount it in the
Europa.
Vibration comes from the suspension on the ground, the direct result of
engine power and fuselage buffet when slowing up by raising the nose.
How's your anti-vibration device coming along?
Goff
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| Subject: | Re: Cockit ventilation |
Hi Richard, yes photos are always welcome please. One other thing does your europa
have the tinted glass? Thanks
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APOLOGIES ALL - This was meant to be a private message - please ignore the
previous postings (unless it's of interest).
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carl Pattinson
Sent: 25 October 2013 15:11
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Bliss
Hello Goff,
Apologies for the delay in responding but I have been away on holiday in
Ibiza with the family and have just returned. I didnt have access to any of
my files so couldnt send anything.
Firstly I am sorry to hear about your radiator problems - hopefully you will
be on your way towards sorting these out by now. My Europa is imminently due
some major repairs/ servicing in that the undercarriage bearings and shock
absorbers need replacing (and the engines annual service). An easy enough
job though as with most things Europa its difficult to access. I am also
aware that despite the Loctite fix/ modwe are starting to develop play in
one of the tail plane attachments so at best this will involve crawling down
the back end and dismantling the tail plane tube assembly (I have done this
twice before - not an easy job).
I had hoped to send you some video clips to show the before and after
results but the files are pretty large (even after editing) - about 10mb and
20mb respectively. I know many email systems dont like such large files and
I havent got anything sorted with you tube as yet. Although I have been
messing about for several years trying to get some decent flying footage it
has always been sporadic due mainly to work commitments. Fortunately I am
now retired (as of July) so will hopefully have more time to perfect this
art. I purchased a copy of Sony Vegas Studio but have yet to master even the
basics of editing - perhaps the program is more sophisticated than I really
need - but having paid the money I am loathe to purchase something else (I
know we are only talking about 20 - 50) but if I have something that does
the job then its extra cost (and im a pensioner lol !)
I can see you have got to grips with editing and adding the music soundtrack
- so far that bit is beyond me.
Regarding the anti vibration mount I put one together and tried it out a
couple of weeks ago - the results were very promising but as you can see
from the photos attached the mount itself is unduly cumbersome. This is
mainly due to my mounting a remote pan/ tilt head on the anti vibration pad.
So there is a bit of work to be done there. The pan/tilt head is very handy
to make minor adjustments but probably unnecessary.
I will update you when I have made some more progress.
I did see there was a guy selling a relatively cheap mount on Ebay (he was
in Israel) but the results on his you tube video were impressive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q57e0-dc2w8 . Unfortunately I have lost the
Ebay link to this and cant find the ad again - he was only selling these for
about 20 which was pretty reasonable.
I am also looking at the option of using my Canon DSLR (which has very high
quality video) and has an inbuilt in stabiliser. I have found an android
application that allows remote control of the camera from my phone (via an
USB cable) so other than mounting the camera in the aircraft should be
relatively simple (the anti vibration mount wouldnt be needed). This could
then be operated easily in flight.
I note that GoPro have their own Android/ Apple application that allows
remote control of your GOPro camera from a phone/ tablet device. I think its
free from what I recall.
Anyway I will update you once I have made some progress and we can compare
notes.
Kind regards,
Carl
PS: Where are you based (ie: your aircraft) - White Waltham (im guessing)
???
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of goff
Sent: 17 October 2013 18:36
Subject: Europa-List: Re: Bliss
Carl,
I mounted the GoPro in my Mooney for the first time today. Got lots of
vibration and jerky footage. So I must be lucky where I mount it in the
Europa.
Vibration comes from the suspension on the ground, the direct result of
engine power and fuselage buffet when slowing up by raising the nose.
How's your anti-vibration device coming along?
Goff
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=410757#410757
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| Subject: | coolant and oil radiators |
FLY THE AIRCRAFT SIDEWAYS ?
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William Daniell
Sent: 25 October 2013 14:20
Subject: Europa-List: coolant and oil radiators
Again to the assembled wisdom.
I remember seeing that the optimum arrangement for the radiators is one
above the other.
Can someone send me pics / diagrams /description of how this is done.
Thanks
Will
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Dave,
If I were doing it, I would remove the tufnol block and feather off the gla
ss on the Rib for 6'', scuff for 9'' and probably leave the fairing lay up
alone, just scuff it. Feather it best you can [ or until you get fed up ! ]
Ampreg 21 is cr*p ! Needs to be warmed well above 25 to make it thin enough
to use. Even on hot [ for here] days I shove the can in front of a fan hea
ter.
Look in the can now, chances are if it was stored over here for a while and
got cold it will be like porridge [ or what is that awful breakfast you gu
ys have, ''grits'' ? ] yuk ! You will have to really warm it to have the gr
its fall out of suspension, done once it will stay clear.
Ampreg 21 with std hardener is pretty well useless to use, flashes off in t
he pot, then takes an age to cure on the job, at least with the slow harden
er, even when you have warmed the resin, you have a reasonable time to get
it on the job, still mix it in small quantities, and dump it into a roller
tray for use with the roller.
Keeping the resin warm, and perhaps the wetting out bench with a fan heater
blowing over it will let you be able to wet out the cloth OK, once you hav
e done the lay ups, and peel plied them, being at 15C for a while until it
starts to cure won't be a problem.Then make up some sort of fireproof tent
/ box / duct to let you warm it to 20 + overnight with some sort of dry hea
t [ no kerosene / propane ]
Cheers,
Nev.
-----Original Message-----
From: djaflyact <djaflyact@gmail.com>
Sent: Fri, Oct 25, 2013 7:23 am
Subject: Europa-List: Re: MOD 78
OK - Just as I was starting to feel like this mod was going to go OK.....
If I
have to remove the controls and the tufnol block, then there is the issue o
f the
fiberglass that is used to mount the wing root fairing. I assume that I hav
e to
just grind through all that too? The grinding of fiberglass is easier than
carbon, so maybe it won't be too bad. I will not take all of the root rib g
lass
off, fearing grinding into the root rib, which would not be good.
I still think that splicing into the existing fiberglass on the spar to roo
t rib
junction would work fine, but you are right - it has not been tested.
I've finished the grinding, but now have more. I do have one question: The
Ampreg 21 says best to use between 18 and 25 degrees C. What is the real wo
rld
on this? RIght now, the weather is perfect as far as temperature and wind,
but
in the not too distant future, the temperature will drop to where we will n
ot
see above 15C for quite some time. Having to do more grinding pushed me int
o the
colder weather. I have a large hangar, which is very difficult to heat.
Thanks for all the inputs.
Dave
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Sent from my iPad
> On 25 Oct 2013, at 23:57, Neville Eyre <neveyre@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Dave,
> If I were doing it, I would remove the tufnol block and feather off the gl
ass on the Rib for 6'', scuff for 9'' and probably leave the fairing lay up a
lone, just scuff it. Feather it best you can [ or until you get fed up ! ]
> Ampreg 21 is cr*p ! Needs to be warmed well above 25 to make it thin enoug
h to use. Even on hot [ for here] days I shove the can in front of a fan hea
ter.
> Look in the can now, chances are if it was stored over here for a while an
d got cold it will be like porridge [ or what is that awful breakfast you gu
ys have, ''grits'' ? ] yuk ! You will have to really warm it to have the gri
ts fall out of suspension, done once it will stay clear.
> Ampreg 21 with std hardener is pretty well useless to use, flashes off in t
he pot, then takes an age to cure on the job, at least with the slow hardene
r, even when you have warmed the resin, you have a reasonable time to get it
on the job, still mix it in small quantities, and dump it into a roller tra
y for use with the roller.
> Keeping the resin warm, and perhaps the wetting out bench with a fan heate
r blowing over it will let you be able to wet out the cloth OK, once you hav
e done the lay ups, and peel plied them, being at 15C for a while until it s
tarts to cure won't be a problem.Then make up some sort of fireproof tent / b
ox / duct to let you warm it to 20 + overnight with some sort of dry heat [ n
o kerosene / propane ]
> Cheers,
> Nev.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: djaflyact <djaflyact@gmail.com>
> To: europa-list <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Fri, Oct 25, 2013 7:23 am
> Subject: Europa-List: Re: MOD 78
>
>
> OK - Just as I was starting to feel like this mod was going to go OK.....
If I
> have to remove the controls and the tufnol block, then there is the issue o
f the
> fiberglass that is used to mount the wing root fairing. I assume that I ha
ve to
> just grind through all that too? The grinding of fiberglass is easier than
> carbon, so maybe it won't be too bad. I will not take all of the root rib g
lass
> off, fearing grinding into the root rib, which would not be good.
>
> I still think that splicing into the existing fiberglass on the spar to ro
ot rib
> junction would work fine, but you are right - it has not been tested.
>
> I've finished the grinding, but now have more. I do have one question: The
> Ampreg 21 says best to use between 18 and 25 degrees C. What is the real w
orld
> on this? RIght now, the weather is perfect as far as temperature and wind,
but
> in the not too distant future, the temperature will drop to where we will n
ot
> see above 15C for quite some time. Having to do more grinding pushed me in
to the
> colder weather. I have a large hangar, which is very difficult to heat.
>
> Thanks for all the inputs.
>
> Dave
>
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