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1. 08:44 AM - Re: Cockit ventilation (Richard Lamprey)
2. 09:05 AM - Re: Cockit ventilation (Richard Wheelwright)
3. 10:25 AM - Re: Re: Cockit ventilation (Fred Klein)
4. 10:46 AM - Re: Cockit ventilation (Richard Wheelwright)
5. 12:00 PM - Re: Re: Cockit ventilation (Karl Heindl)
6. 02:22 PM - Seatbelt mount ()
7. 02:33 PM - Re: Seatbelt mount (David Joyce)
8. 04:19 PM - Re: Seatbelt mount (Bob Harrison)
9. 04:56 PM - Re: Seatbelt mount (Fred Klein)
10. 08:58 PM - Pip pin logic (Andrew Sarangan)
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| Subject: | Re: Cockit ventilation |
Daniel,
Yes, the brown tinted glass. The snapvents are clear, but you wouldn't notice
the difference when they are in.
By rotating them relative to the airflow, you can get one side to suck, the other
to blow, hence movement of air through the cabin.
Best
Richard, Kenya
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| Subject: | Re: Cockit ventilation |
Richard,
Do you Have any Photos of the Snapvents please.
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Richard Wheelwright
G-IRPW
First Flight 24th July 2013
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| Subject: | Re: Cockit ventilation |
On Oct 26, 2013, at 8:43 AM, Richard Lamprey wrote:
> By rotating them relative to the airflow, you can get one side to
suck, the other to blow, hence movement of air through the cabin.
Richard...can you recall which model of the snapvent it is that you're
using?
I find it somewhat difficult to discern the differences between some of
the models, though it does appear that only MODEL CC3251 allows for the
vents to be closed and flush w/ the outside.
Wow...cutting those holes in installed door windows must have been a
real come-to-jesus moment,
Fred
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| Subject: | Re: Cockit ventilation |
I have 2 of these vent I bought about 3 years ago but never fitted them, as the
fear of breaking the plexi glass.
Are there any tips on cutting the 2" holes?
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Richard Wheelwright
G-IRPW
First Flight 24th July 2013
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| Subject: | Re: Cockit ventilation |
Richard wrote :
Richard wrote :
> Are there any tips on cutting the 2" holes?
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Yes=2C I simply used a 2" hole cutter=2C at slow speed. It may be a good id
ea to warm up the window first. I also installed these transparent ventilat
ors from ACS in the corners of the windscreen (about $20 each). I don't see
any need for anything else except air conditioning maybe.
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Hi,
At the beginning of the year I purchased a Europa XS Tri Gear about 60%
completed project. I=99ve been reading your postings which have
been helping me with my project. I=99ve been reading somewhere
about the rear mounting point for the seatbelt is not in the best
position and I was wondering what the thoughts were on relocating the
rear mount point to the roof of the cockpit.
Has anyone done this before? I was wondering what your thoughts were,
weather it would be worth the extra work or would it just be a waste of
time?
Mark
Kit 451 (Australia)
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| Subject: | Re: Seatbelt mount |
Mark, I am 6ft 2" and in 12 yrs flying have found no
problem at all with the harnesses, nor yet have any of my
various size passengers. I would certainly leave them well
alone. The design is a good one and I would steer clear of
modifications other than possibly the sort where you are
adding something extra like an autopilot.
Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ
On Sun, 27 Oct 2013 07:21:54 +1000
<markandrhonda@harveyfarm.net.au> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> At the beginning of the year I purchased a Europa XS Tri
>Gear about 60% completed project. Ive been reading your
>postings which have been helping me with my project.
> Ive been reading somewhere about the rear mounting
>point for the seatbelt is not in the best position and I
>was wondering what the thoughts were on relocating the
>rear mount point to the roof of the cockpit.
>
> Has anyone done this before? I was wondering what your
>thoughts were, weather it would be worth the extra work
>or would it just be a waste of time?
>
> Mark
> Kit 451 (Australia)
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Hi! Mark,
I have for some time been aware of this issue and possible compression
of the spine from the harness location of the Europa .
I have over 1000 hours with the harness all as standard . Perhaps such
a drastic incident would be likely unsurvivable anyway.
However I have at some time seen an arrangement with a hinged block on
top of the existing seat back which ensures that the potential for any
spine compressive forces is removed. However It would need extensive
load testing and need to be very resilient so I=99ve never done
anything further. It would also need the length of the shoulder straps
to be much longer .
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
markandrhonda@harveyfarm.net.au
Sent: 26 October 2013 22:22
Subject: Europa-List: Seatbelt mount
Hi,
At the beginning of the year I purchased a Europa XS Tri Gear about 60%
completed project. I=99ve been reading your postings which have
been helping me with my project. I=99ve been reading somewhere
about the rear mounting point for the seatbelt is not in the best
position and I was wondering what the thoughts were on relocating the
rear mount point to the roof of the cockpit.
Has anyone done this before? I was wondering what your thoughts were,
weather it would be worth the extra work or would it just be a waste of
time?
Mark
Kit 451 (Australia)
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| Subject: | Re: Seatbelt mount |
On Oct 26, 2013, at 4:18 PM, Bob Harrison wrote:
> I have at some time seen an arrangement with a hinged block on top of
the existing seat back which ensures that the potential for any spine
compressive forces is removed. However It would need extensive load
testing and need to be very resilient so I=92ve never done anything
further. It would also need the length of the shoulder straps to be much
longer .
Mark...as Bob mentions the standard build allows for spinal compression
in the event of a hard landing (or worse). I made some hinged block
risers as Bob describes; the hinge serves to allow the top of the seat
back to be used as a transition seat when entering or exiting the
aircraft. By no means did I conduct an "extensive load testing" program;
I did however, simulate a 15G load on the shoulder straps in the
appropriate direction. I claim 15G on the basis of an assumption of 100
# upper body weight which could be imposed on the shoulder straps in the
event that the body were restrained from moving forward. The shoulder
strap mounting point did not change, so whatever stresses such an event
would cause will be handled by the airframe as designed. Suprisingly,
the stock shoulder strap length still serves.
...no guarantees...
Fred
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I am hoping someone can help me understand the logic behind the spar
pip pin. According to a posting by Neville Eyre some time back, the
pin is important for preventing the spar tang from migrating aft and
jamming the aileron crank. This makes sense, especially given how
close the spar is to the cranks. However, in my limited experience, I
have only seen pins used for shear stresses, not longitudinal stress.
The latter would mean the ball at the end the pin has to be load
bearing. This seems a bit odd to me, but I am sure there must be a
logic behind this setup. I am hoping someone can shed some light on
this for me.
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