Europa-List Digest Archive

Wed 10/30/13


Total Messages Posted: 8



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 01:00 AM - Re: Re: IMPORTANT NEWS ABOUT YOUR 2013 SUBSCRIPTIONS (Bob Harrison)
     2. 01:04 AM - Re: Re: IMPORTANT NEWS ABOUT YOUR 2013 SUBSCRIPTIONS (Peter Harrod)
     3. 01:11 AM - Re: Re: IMPORTANT NEWS ABOUT YOUR 2013 SUBSCRIPTIONS (Rowland Carson)
     4. 01:30 AM - =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:__Re:_Europa-List:_AN3_Nut_Torque__Values..?= 	=?iso-8859-1?Q?.or_any__	Torque_Values_depending_on_type_of_Nuts? (Max Cointe (Free))
     5. 01:43 AM - =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:__Electric_Flaps...Pre-programmed_Selection?= 	=?iso-8859-1?Q?s? (Max Cointe (Free))
     6. 10:23 AM - Re: IMPORTANT NEWS ABOUT YOUR 2013 SUBSCRIPTIONS (goff)
     7. 07:51 PM - A Europa re-born G-EINI (K BURNS)
     8. 08:07 PM - Re: A Europa re-born G-EINI (Robert Borger)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:00:09 AM PST US
    From: "Bob Harrison" <ptag.dev@talktalk.net>
    Subject: Re: IMPORTANT NEWS ABOUT YOUR 2013 SUBSCRIPTIONS
    Hi"! Alan I'm sure our club will welcome you . It isn't actually always easy to access the web page but be sure to use :- http://www.theeuropaclub.org/ It works because I have just proved it . Best regards Bob Harrison G-PTAG Europa Trike with 914 Rotax + 1000 hours. -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of alan_hunter1664 Sent: 30 October 2013 02:14 Subject: Europa-List: Re: IMPORTANT NEWS ABOUT YOUR 2013 SUBSCRIPTIONS --> <alan_hunter1664@yahoo.co.uk> I am new to the Europa world and would like to join the Europa club but I'm unable to access the theeuropaclub.org web site. I've tried from a number of computers over a period of time but just get the message "page unavailable" Has the site moved? Many thanks Alan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=411721#411721


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    Time: 01:04:08 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: IMPORTANT NEWS ABOUT YOUR 2013 SUBSCRIPTIONS
    From: Peter Harrod <peterandbettyharrod@btopenworld.com>
    Hi Alan, I have just accessed the club site as Bob says, keep trying.


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    Time: 01:11:55 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: IMPORTANT NEWS ABOUT YOUR 2013 SUBSCRIPTIONS
    From: Rowland Carson <rowlandcarson@gmail.com>
    On 30 Oct 2013, at 02:14, alan_hunter1664 wrote: > > I am new to the Europa world and would like to join the Europa club but I'm unable to access the theeuropaclub.org web site. I've tried from a number of computers over a period of time but just get the message "page unavailable" > Has the site moved? > > Many thanks > Alan > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=411721#411721 Alan - I'm sorry to hear you have not been able to reach the Europa Club website. This is very puzzling - I clicked on the link in your e-mail message (to make sure there were no typos) and it came right up for me. I am one of the Europa Club Committee members tasked with website maintenance and if you'd care to contact me direct at <rowlandcarson@gmail.com> with details of what hardware, operating system and web browser you are using, I will try to help solve the problem of your inability to see the Europa Club website. I'm also copying this reply to Gerald Tagg, the Europa Club Membership Secretary who should be able to help you with your subscription renewal. in friendship Rowland | Rowland Carson ... that's Rowland with a 'w' ... | <rowlandcarson@gmail.com> http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk | Skype, Twitter: rowland_carson Facebook: Rowland Carson | pictures: http://picasaweb.google.com/rowlandcarson


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    Time: 01:30:26 AM PST US
    From: "Max Cointe (Free)" <mcointe@free.fr>
    Subject: Re: o-8859-1?Q?RE:_Europa-List:_Re:_Europa-List:_AN3_Nut_Torque__Values..?=
    =?iso-8859-1?Q?.or_any__ Torque_Values_depending_on_type_of_Nuts? Very valuable contribution, as usual Ron! Many thanks. Max Cointe <mailto:mcointe@free.fr> mcointe@free.fr F-PMLH Europa XS_TriGear Kit #560-2003 912ULS/AirmasterAP332 490 hours F-PLDJ Dyn=92A=E9ro MCR 4S Kit #27-2002 912ULSFR/MTProp MTV7A 1600 heures De : owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] De la part de rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us Envoy=E9 : mardi 29 octobre 2013 19:57 =C0 : Europa Objet : Re: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List: AN3 Nut Torque Values=85=85.or any Torque Values depending on type of Nuts Hi Group Quick note on breaking AN bolts, if the surface the nut is contacting is not perpendicular to the shank of the bolt, it will load sideways and quite easily break. For instance on my tiebar, and flap drive holes I did a poor job of drilling at 90 degrees to the surface. I am sure if I tightened the hardware to maximum rated spec they would break. I used these to compensate for my sins http://www.mcmaster.com/#self-aligning-washers/=p5ec85 Note you can get #10 with a maximum correction of 4 degrees and also 5 degrees, the 5 degree is larger. I think I only used the 5 degree on 1 of my tiebar bolts, it needed just a slight bit more ability to correct so I Reduxed with Flox and let set before full tightening. Ron Parigoris


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    Time: 01:43:33 AM PST US
    From: "Max Cointe (Free)" <mcointe@free.fr>
    Subject: o-8859-1?Q?RE:_Europa-List:_Electric_Flaps...Pre-programmed_Selection?=
    =?iso-8859-1?Q?s? Bonjour Tony, Thanks for these inputs. I understand than you replaced the original mechanism from Europa by one of these actuators. Any pic available? Max Cointe mcointe@free.fr F-PMLH Europa XS_TriGear Kit #560-2003 912ULS/AirmasterAP332 490 hours F-PLDJ DynAro MCR 4S Kit #27-2002 912ULSFR/MTProp MTV7A 1600 heures -----Message d'origine----- De: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] De la part de Tony Renshaw Envoy: mardi 29 octobre 2013 22:18 : europa-list@matronics.com Objet: Europa-List: Electric Flaps..Pre-programmed Selections --> <tonyrenshaw268@gmail.com> Gidday, There was a question regarding electric flaps with pre-positioning. Here is what I am using. http://www.concentricintl.com/products/electrical-control/accessories/linear -actuator-controller-one-actuator-12-vdc-6/ In combination with their linear actuators, I think its the perfect setup for the Europa. The quality is excellent and the value tremendous. Hope this helps. Regards Tony Renshaw Sydney Aussie


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    Time: 10:23:26 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: IMPORTANT NEWS ABOUT YOUR 2013 SUBSCRIPTIONS
    From: "goff" <goffmoore@aol.com>
    Gerald, Please send me a Standing Order form. Thanks Goff .................................... Goff Moore Battlemead 60 Lower Cookham Road Maidenhead SL6 8JZ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=411763#411763


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    Time: 07:51:05 PM PST US
    From: K BURNS <kjburns@btinternet.com>
    Subject: A Europa re-born G-EINI
    At 3 pm today G-EINI, found her place in the autumnal sky over Husbands Bos worth, she is only-2 LBs heavier than when first built despite the additi onal Tri-Gear , (I have also dropped 2 and 3/4 stone while removing all the old paint and excess-filler).=0A-=0AWe chose grass option (27)due to t he cross wind, and at 5lb less than gross lifted off without complaint, she flies delightfully, fully co-ordinated, with hands free flight showing a b eautifully balanced aircraft...no trim tabs needed here (I have a bucket fu ll of the ones we removed when setting up the aircraft).=0A-=0AThe engine is still tight with only 2 hours total running time on it so we were gentl e with the test schedule preferring to cruise climb to 3500 ft and check st all characteristics, stall buffet is gentle but noticeable -, and flaps -are free of -any adverse- roll effects,-43 knots clean -and the right wing dropped first-, but with a nice rumble first.=0A-=0AVentilat ion could have been better, new door seals and closure panels leave little exit air, and the carpets were not fully dry..I was a bit warm too ! so mis ting on my screens had to be kept clear.=0A-=0ARain was approaching from the west as an hour in the air approached so we chose the wide and long opt ion of the grass 27 (winch cables gone for the approaching weather) , and - made a high brisk approach of 75 Knots over the hedge to put us nicely down floating over the cross track next to the launch point bus.=0A-=0ABa ck to the Hanger, cowls off, a good once over and tweak a couple of avionic s issues ..fish and chip supper and check the weather for tomorrow's flight testing , cant believe were flying !=0A-=0AMany thanks to Richard Kilham , Mentor and inspector (and test pilot)-from EES Aviation, for his valuab le contribution and enthusiasm for this project.=0A-=0ATo all at the Sywe ll show, I said two weeks to finish...I was right ..two weeks for the jobs on my list...I managed to find another 6 weeks of jobs to do as well !=0A -=0AKevin.


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    Time: 08:07:55 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: A Europa re-born G-EINI
    From: Robert Borger <rlborger@mac.com>
    Kevin, Congratulations on the return to the air! Sounds like you have a fine bird there. Enjoy!! Blue skies & tailwinds, Bob Borger Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop. Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208-5331 Cel: 817-992-1117 rlborger@mac.com On Oct 30, 2013, at 9:50 PM, K BURNS <kjburns@btinternet.com> wrote: At 3 pm today G-EINI, found her place in the autumnal sky over Husbands Bosworth, she is only 2 LBs heavier than when first built despite the additional Tri-Gear , (I have also dropped 2 and 3/4 stone while removing all the old paint and excess filler). We chose grass option (27)due to the cross wind, and at 5lb less than gross lifted off without complaint, she flies delightfully, fully co-ordinated, with hands free flight showing a beautifully balanced aircraft...no trim tabs needed here (I have a bucket full of the ones we removed when setting up the aircraft). The engine is still tight with only 2 hours total running time on it so we were gentle with the test schedule preferring to cruise climb to 3500 ft and check stall characteristics, stall buffet is gentle but noticeable , and flaps are free of any adverse roll effects, 43 knots clean and the right wing dropped first , but with a nice rumble first. Ventilation could have been better, new door seals and closure panels leave little exit air, and the carpets were not fully dry..I was a bit warm too ! so misting on my screens had to be kept clear. Rain was approaching from the west as an hour in the air approached so we chose the wide and long option of the grass 27 (winch cables gone for the approaching weather) , and made a high brisk approach of 75 Knots over the hedge to put us nicely down floating over the cross track next to the launch point bus. Back to the Hanger, cowls off, a good once over and tweak a couple of avionics issues ..fish and chip supper and check the weather for tomorrow's flight testing , cant believe were flying ! Many thanks to Richard Kilham, Mentor and inspector (and test pilot) from EES Aviation, for his valuable contribution and enthusiasm for this project. To all at the Sywell show, I said two weeks to finish...I was right ..two weeks for the jobs on my list...I managed to find another 6 weeks of jobs to do as well ! Kevin.




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