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Fri 11/08/13


Total Messages Posted: 15



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 01:20 AM - Re: Europa Classic wing blistering (Richard Lamprey)
     2. 02:34 AM - Monowheel Trailer (Dave Glowa)
     3. 02:36 AM - Re: Re: Raglan Video (Tim Ward)
     4. 05:33 AM - Re: airplast pv50 problem (K BURNS)
     5. 06:30 AM - Re: airplast pv50 problem (pooh)
     6. 09:07 AM - Re: Raglan Video (goff)
     7. 01:38 PM - XS Fuel Tank (bill)
     8. 02:10 PM - Re: XS Fuel Tank (craig)
     9. 02:18 PM - Re: Monowheel Trailer (Kyle P)
    10. 02:28 PM - Re: XS Fuel Tank (Paul McAllister)
    11. 03:17 PM - Re: XS Fuel Tank (GRAHAM SINGLETON)
    12. 03:48 PM - Re: XS Fuel Tank (Paul McAllister)
    13. 05:47 PM - Weight and Balance (Jeremy Fisher)
    14. 05:52 PM - Re: Raglan Video (Kevin Klinefelter)
    15. 11:26 PM - Re: Weight and Balance (Max Cointe (Free))
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:20:39 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Europa Classic wing blistering
    From: "Richard Lamprey" <lamprey.richard@gmail.com>
    Dean, thanks, that's useful to know. Might try it out. Best Richard, Kenya Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=412448#412448


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    Time: 02:34:01 AM PST US
    From: Dave Glowa <dave.glowa@termrim.co.uk>
    Subject: Monowheel Trailer
    I am looking for a mono wheel trailer, has anyone who may be converting to a tri gear got one for sale.


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    Time: 02:36:08 AM PST US
    From: Tim Ward <ward.t@xtra.co.nz>
    Subject: Re: Raglan Video
    Goff, Go pro mount is mounted on the aileron inspection panel. Mounted with bolts and nuts. Go pro just slides and locks in place. Not noticeable difference aerodynamically. No stalls done. Cheers, Tim Tim Ward 12 Waiwetu Street Fendalton, Christchurch, 8052 New Zealand. ward.t@xtra.co.nz Ph 64 3 3515166 Mob 0210640221 > On 8/11/2013, at 8:41 pm, "goff" <goffmoore@aol.com> wrote: > > > Hello Tim, > > Very nice compilation. Was the underwing camera attached to the tie down point? I'd be interested to see a picture of the camera rig in place. > > Did this affect the flying characteristics? Did you try any stalls with the rig in place? If so, how did the stall characteristics alter? > > Goff > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=412443#412443 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 05:33:58 AM PST US
    From: K BURNS <kjburns@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: airplast pv50 problem
    Jim,=0A-=0ARecent experience and observations with a different type of co nstant speed prop controller not going back to fully fine has persuaded me to ground our aircraft, remove the offending article and replace with a dir ect switch control unit with only manual control.=0A-=0AIf you get stuck in coarse pitch and the constant speed unit is saying you are fully fine by steady light or other means you could end up over-running your landing str ip ,with no go round option.=0A-=0AWe check full take off /climb revs are achieved- as a landing check.=0A-=0AWhen doing our testing we found th e prop would re set to fine pitch when the avionics were switched of and ba ck on.=0A-=0AThen on one test it failed on that mode.=0A-=0AFurther inv estigation showed that switching relays were not completing the circuit, ye t could be heard to be clicking.=0A-=0AOur teams skills and knowledge cam e to the best solution for us and our planned use of the aircraft was to bi n the electronics and go with a simple manual switched unit, and ground the aircraft until it arrives.=0A-=0ARegards,=0AConfirmed Ludite,=0AKevin=0A -=0A =0A=0A________________________________=0A From: g-fizy <jim.davis1@m e.com>=0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Thursday, 7 November 2013, 23:04=0ASubject: Europa-List: airplast pv50 problem=0A =0A=0A--> Europa-Li st message posted by: "g-fizy" <jim.davis1@me.com>=0A=0AHi all i am having a few problems with my pv50 prop ,it does not seem to move ,take off is ok but as soon as i start to get to about 500 ft the engine speed seems to go uncontrolled ,the controller seems not to be doing anything =0Ait displays a change in pitch but i do not think- that the actual prop pitch motor is moving , the smart avionics- controller manual says you can adjust the p rop with out the engine running ,I am guessing that if you put the controll er in manual mode and adjust the- pitch the motor should move,but nothing happens ,please can some one confirm this ,as i dont fancy fault finding w ith a spinning prop ,or has anyone got any ideas on fault finding .Please l et me know =0A=0Athanks jim=0A=0A--------=0Aowner g-fizy=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p =========================0A - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Matt Dralle, List =========================0A =====================


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    Time: 06:30:26 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: airplast pv50 problem
    From: pooh <pjeffers@talktalk.net>
    =0A =0A=0AHi Jim,=0AHard to diagnose your problem with the inf o you have given, but I would like to venture the suggesti on that once you have fixed the problem (whatever that may turn out to be) that you refrain from using the PV 50 in auto, except perhaps for take off and landing. =0AThe dr ive motor used on the PV50 is a beautiful Swiss made motor but was designed for use on 9 volt systems. In the P V 50 installation it runs on 12 volts. experience has sho wn that the motors do not last that long (perhaps 300 hrs if you are lucky). This short life is much further exacerbat ed if the controller is run in auto as it will be consta ntly making small corrections winding the blades back and forw ard.=0AAs for your problem I think the first thing to try is establish if the motor is still functioning. To establish this remove your spinner to gain access to the motor. It i s the long 1=9D approx. dia cylinder which sticks out forward of everything else. On the front end there are tw o terminals. Before proceeding to the next stage ensure you have isolated the prop electrics from the a/c electrical syste m. Ie switched it off and pulled the breaker.=0ANow use a little 9 volt dry cell battery and connect it to the te rminals of the motor. No matter the polarity. The motor s hould run if it is good. Caution not to run it for mo re than a second or so. Try reversing the polarity it s hould run the other direction if the motor is good. =0AIf the motor is good we need to search further for your pr oblem. If the motor does not run then we know what we need to replace.=0AIf you wish please advise results.=0A=0A=0APete Jeffers LAA Inspector for the Europa Club=0A=0A=0A=0AFrom: g-fizy=0ASent: =8EThursday=8E, =8E7=8E =8ENo vember=8E =8E2013 =8E23=8E:=8E04=0ATo: europ "g-fizy" <jim.davis1@me.com>=0A=0AHi all i am having a few probl ems with my pv50 prop ,it does not seem to move ,take of f is ok but as soon as i start to get to about 500 f t the engine speed seems to go uncontrolled ,the controller seems not to be doing anything =0Ait displays a change in pitch but i do not think that the actual prop pitch mot or is moving , the smart avionics controller manual says you can adjust the prop with out the engine running ,I am guessing that if you put the controller in manual mode and adjust the pitch the motor should move,but nothing happens ,please can some one confirm this ,as i dont fancy fault f inding with a spinning prop ,or has anyone got any ideas o n fault finding .Please let me know =0A=0Athanks jim=0A=0A------ --=0Aowner g-fizy=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp ://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=412427#412427=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_ -=========================== =========================== -Matt =========================== =========================== =========================== ====================0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A =0A=0ASent from Windows Mail=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A-----Original Message----- =0AFrom: g-fizy <jim.davis1@me.com>=0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com=0ASent : Thu, 7 Nov 2013 23:13=0ASubject: Europa-List: airplast pv50 is1@me.com>Hi all i am having a few problems with my pv50 prop ,it does not seem to move take off is ok but as soon as i start to get to about 500 ft the engine s peed eems to go uncontrolled ,the controller seems not to be doing anything t displays a change in pitch but i do not think that the actual prop pitch otor is moving , the smart avionics controller manual says you can adjust the rop with out the engine running ,I am guessing that if you put the controller n manual mode and adjust the pitch the motor should move,but nothing happens please can some one confirm this ,as i dont fancy fault finding with a spinning rop ,or has anyone got any ideas on fault finding .Please let me know thanks jim--------wner g-fizy ead this topic online here:http://forums.matronics.com/viewt =========================== ===================-=-= -- Please Support Your Lists This Month ---= (And Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!)-= -= November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. 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    Time: 09:07:11 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Raglan Video
    From: "goff" <goffmoore@aol.com>
    Thanks Tim, Useful information. Goff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=412458#412458


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    Time: 01:38:43 PM PST US
    From: bill <bill.sue@orcon.net.nz>
    Subject: XS Fuel Tank
    After 1100hrs I have suffered a failed fuel tank on my XS Mono. Not sure exactly where the fault is other than it is high up on the tank. Will know more when I get it out. My question to the forum is, has anyone tried fabricating a metal (aluminium) tank rather than using the Polyethylene plastic one as supplied with the kit. If so, were you able to obtain the same volume and any other advice you may be able to offer. Many thanks XS Mono Kit 456 914 and Airmaster 1100hrs Sue and Bill Sisley


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    Time: 02:10:48 PM PST US
    From: "craig" <craigb@onthenet.com.au>
    Subject: XS Fuel Tank
    The short answer is yes, cant remember who did it, a couple of years ago someone posted Pictures of the new aluminium tank they created, it essentially removed the tunnel by having A hole through the tank for the push rod and two small holes for the rudder cables, very good looking thing And gave about 15 litres more capacity if memory serves Regards Craig Kit 577 (trying to get the paint on)


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    Time: 02:18:55 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Monowheel Trailer
    From: Kyle P <helperpsp@gmail.com>
    I have one. Haven't really thought of selling it but I wont be needing it anymore. I live in Alabama but I guess that a bit far for you. :) Kyle


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    Time: 02:28:47 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: XS Fuel Tank
    From: Paul McAllister <paul.the.aviator@gmail.com>
    I seem to recall that Miles McCallum made one out of magnesium alloy.


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    Time: 03:17:19 PM PST US
    From: GRAHAM SINGLETON <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: XS Fuel Tank
    and before that Mike Costin made an alumium one around 1998 ish.=0AGraham =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Paul McAllister <p aul.the.aviator@gmail.com>=0ATo: "europa-list@matronics.com" <europa-list@m atronics.com> =0ASent: Friday, 8 November 2013, 22:28=0ASubject: Re: Europa -List: XS Fuel Tank=0A =0A=0A=0AI seem to recall that-Miles McCallum made


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    Time: 03:48:31 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: XS Fuel Tank
    From: Paul McAllister <paul.the.aviator@gmail.com>
    Actually it was Nigel Graham. There is thread in the archives in May 2008 On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 5:16 PM, GRAHAM SINGLETON < grahamsingleton@btinternet.com> wrote: > and before that Mike Costin made an alumium one around 1998 ish. > Graham > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Paul McAllister <paul.the.aviator@gmail.com> > *To:* "europa-list@matronics.com" <europa-list@matronics.com> > *Sent:* Friday, 8 November 2013, 22:28 > *Subject:* Re: Europa-List: XS Fuel Tank > > I seem to recall that Miles McCallum made one out of magnesium alloy. > > *www.aeroearget="_blank" href="http://www.buildersbooks.com/ <http://www.buildersbooks.com/>">www.buildersbooks.c* My Pilot Store www.mrr --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List>========= > * > > > * > > * > >


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    Time: 05:47:06 PM PST US
    From: Jeremy Fisher <jffisher@gmail.com>
    Subject: Weight and Balance
    I am hoping to find an example W&B sheet for an XS Trigear. I know that each aircraft is different, but I want to see what the approximate effect of a couple of mods would be, including an auxiliary fuel tank behind the seats. I would really appreciate any example, preferably with a 914 engine. Can anyone help? Jerry Fisher


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    Time: 05:52:29 PM PST US
    From: Kevin Klinefelter <klinefelter.kevin@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Raglan Video
    Beautiful short film Tim. Well done Angus! Kevin On Nov 7, 2013, at 9:16 PM, Robert Borger <rlborger@mac.com> wrote: > Tim, > > Very nice. NZ is a beautiful country. > > Blue skies & tailwinds, > Bob Borger > Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop. > Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP > 3705 Lynchburg Dr. > Corinth, TX 76208-5331 > Cel: 817-992-1117 > rlborger@mac.com > > On Nov 7, 2013, at 9:02 PM, Tim Ward <ward.t@xtra.co.nz> wrote: > > Hi Europa Flyers > My son, Angus, put this together flying from Raglan (North Island, New Zea land) home to Rangiora in the South Island for a bit of fun. > Had a Ducati regulator failure on the way home above Mt Ruapehue eventuall y taking the battery out. Lost radio, transponder, GPS, engine instruments, A ware, TCAS, intercom, trim, fuel indicator and Airmaster propeller unit stuc k in climb pitch, max continuous. Still had engine and wings which is all we needed. Landed at Wanganui for new battery, arriving NORDO. So the iPad (Ai r Nav Pro) was excellent and the cell phone to warn the aero club at Wanganu i we had no radio. > All in a days flying. > > Cheers, > Tim > See; >> >> https://vimeo.com/78806298 > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== =========


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    Time: 11:26:17 PM PST US
    From: "Max Cointe (Free)" <mcointe@free.fr>
    Subject: Weight and Balance
    Hi Jerry, Here is the one for F-PMLH. Hope this helps Max Cointe mcointe@free.fr F-PMLH Europa XS_TriGear Kit #560-2003 912ULS/AirmasterAP332 490 hours F-PLDJ Dyn=92A=E9ro MCR 4S Kit #27-2002 912ULSFR/MTProp MTV7A 1600 heures -----Message d'origine----- De-: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] De la part de Jeremy Fisher Envoy=E9-: samedi 9 novembre 2013 02:46 =C0-: europa-list@matronics.com Objet-: Europa-List: Weight and Balance I am hoping to find an example W&B sheet for an XS Trigear. I know that each aircraft is different, but I want to see what the approximate effect of a couple of mods would be, including an auxiliary fuel tank behind the seats. I would really appreciate any example, preferably with a 914 engine. Can anyone help? Jerry Fisher List 7-Day




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