---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 11/22/13: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 0. 12:20 AM - Please Make A Contribution Today... (Matt Dralle) 1. 12:35 AM - Re: Wing leveller (tennant) 2. 01:06 AM - FW: Shared from BBC News Dream Lifter lands at wrong airport . (Bob Harrison) 3. 01:55 AM - Re: Shared from BBC News Dream Lifter lands at wrong airport . (Roland) 4. 05:17 AM - Re: Re: Shared from BBC News Dream Lifter lands at wrong airport . (Martin Tuck) 5. 12:45 PM - Re: Slimline Slip/Skid balnce ball (jonathanmilbank) 6. 02:58 PM - E-mail Address of Arblast Proppellers (Alan Carter) 7. 05:42 PM - Re: XS Fuel Tank (Andrew Sarangan) 8. 11:11 PM - Re: E-mail Address of Arblast Proppellers (NEEL Jean Philippe) ________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________ Time: 12:20:33 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Europa-List: Please Make A Contribution Today... Dear Listers, A quick reminder that November is the annual List Fund Raiser and the List of Contributors is quickly approching. The Matronics Lists are 100% member supported and all of the operational costs are provided for by your Contributions during this time of the year. Your personal Contribution makes a big difference and keeps all of the Matronics Email Lists and Forums completely ad-free. Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running! http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:35:28 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Wing leveller From: "tennant" The Navaid Gyro unit is a turn coordinator, not an attitude indicator. In an emergency it would be a backup but it is certainly not suitable as a primary instrument. It works great as a wing leveler and AP following a GPS track though when used with a servo. -------- Barry Tennant D-EHBT At EDLM - Germany Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413768#413768 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:06:02 AM PST US From: "Bob Harrison" Subject: Europa-List: FW: Shared from BBC News Dream Lifter lands at wrong airport .. Hi! All, It seems that we Private Pilots aren't the only ones to make errors !!!Must have had his GPS turned off ? Couldn't have been using Sky Demon anyway ! Regards To all. Bob Harrison G-PTAG From: David B Graves Ltd [mailto:davidbgravesltd@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: 22 November 2013 07:50 Subject: Shared from BBC News Hi Bob, Looks like all's well that ends well. The pilot landed at the wrong airport and yesterday there was some concern that the runway was too short for him to take off. However I see this morning they managed to depart OK. dAVID http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-25046719 _____ This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:55:50 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Shared from BBC News Dream Lifter lands at wrong airport .. From: "Roland" ATC with "apparently we have landed somewhere else.." is funny, isn't it? https://w.soundcloud.com/player/?ur....k=true&origin=twitter Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413770#413770 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:17:24 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Shared from BBC News Dream Lifter lands at wrong airport . From: Martin Tuck This was certainly been a big event here in Wichita! Martin Tuck Europa N152MT Wichita, Kansas Sent from my iPad > On Nov 22, 2013, at 3:55 AM, "Roland" wrote: > > > ATC with "apparently we have landed somewhere else.." is funny, isn't it? > > https://w.soundcloud.com/player/?ur....k=true&origin=twitter > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413770#413770 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:45:28 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Slimline Slip/Skid balnce ball From: "jonathanmilbank" Thanks for the suggestion Bob, although the part priced at $59.90 in the Aircraft Spruce catalogue is P/N 10-00700. I've no doubt that after adding shipping and UK import taxes and duties, the price landed at my door will be almost double that. So anybody out there within the UK, please point me towards a surface-mounted balance ball of the narrow horizontal type. Thanks. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413808#413808 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:58:54 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: E-mail Address of Arblast Proppellers From: "Alan Carter" Hi All. Anybody know a working, E-mail Address of Arblast Propellers France. Regards, Alan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413822#413822 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:42:47 PM PST US From: Andrew Sarangan Subject: Re: Europa-List: XS Fuel Tank Frans These are very good points, and I wondered about them myself. To add to that list, plastic tanks are seamless constructions and do not rust. UV damage is an issue in boats (where they may be exposed to direct sun), but probably not a concern in aircraft. It is also partially transparent so it is possible to use an optical level sensor from the outside of the tank. If made from the right plastic and installed correctly, I think a plastic tank should be significantly better. Unfortunately, the Europa tanks are not made from the right kind of plastic, and the installation method is flawed. On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 7:08 AM, Frans Veldman wrote: > > On 11/08/2013 10:37 PM, bill wrote: > >> My question to the forum is, has anyone tried fabricating a metal >> (aluminium) tank rather than using the Polyethylene plastic one as >> supplied with the kit. > > Why would you do that? Metal tanks can also leak. > There are a few things to consider: > > 1) Metal is heavier. > 2) The plastic tank offers great safety in a moderate crash. A metal > fuel tank will likely rupture catastrophycally, releasing its full > capacity at once in your lap or under your seat. Metal will spark when > it scratches the surface (which will happen if you loose the gear during > the mishap) igniting the fuel instantly. Metal fuel tanks are sort of ok > in the wing, but I would never ever want one just behind my back, with > its bottom just above the belly of the airplane. > 3) A metal tank will cause much more water in the fuel. Moisture in the > air will settle against the cold metal walls of the fuel tank and > eventual run down and cause a pool of water at the bottom of the tank. > > I think a good quality plastic tank is preferable in our situation. Too > bad that some of the supplied tanks were of inferior quality, but it > doesn't have to be like that. > > Frans > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:11:30 PM PST US From: NEEL Jean Philippe Subject: Re: Europa-List: E-mail Address of Arblast Proppellers =0A=0ABonjour Alan=0AYou can join them at: -HELICE SARL LAETITIA =0A=0AJean-Philippe=0AF-PSLH N=B0273=0A=0A=0A=0ALe Samedi 23 no vembre 2013 0h09, Alan Carter a =E9crit :=0A =0A =0A=0AHi All.=0AAnybody know a working, E-mail Address of Arblast Propeller s- France.=0ARegards,=0AAlan=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here: =0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413822#413822=0A=0A=0A ============== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.