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Sun 11/24/13


Total Messages Posted: 7



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 05:38 AM - Re: FS09 (spcialeffects)
     2. 08:44 AM - Re: Saggy outriggers (graeme bird)
     3. 08:57 AM - Re: Re: Saggy outriggers (Fred Klein)
     4. 09:32 AM - 912S replacement fuel lift pumps (gtagr)
     5. 03:26 PM - Re: If it ain't broke, don't fix it (Bud Yerly)
     6. 03:47 PM - Re: 912S replacement fuel lift pumps (Bud Yerly)
     7. 11:16 PM - Re: graphics (alan.twigg775@gmail.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:38:46 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: FS09
    From: "spcialeffects" <spcialeffects@aol.com>
    Thanks to all for your quick replies, I have now sourced a pair. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413913#413913


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    Time: 08:44:45 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Saggy outriggers
    From: "graeme bird" <graeme@gdbmk.co.uk>
    great fairings! I have the europa supplied ones which must be poor due to the open back. Does anyone supply these? -------- Graeme Bird G-UMPY Mono Classic/XS 912S/Woodcomp 3000/3W Newby: 95 hours 18 months g(at)gdbmk.co.uk Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413922#413922


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    Time: 08:57:43 AM PST US
    From: Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com>
    Subject: Re: Saggy outriggers
    On Nov 24, 2013, at 8:44 AM, graeme bird wrote: > great fairings! I have the europa supplied ones which must be poor due to the open back. Does anyone supply these? Graeme...as mentioned in my text, mine came from Kingsley Hurst in Oz...Fred


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    Time: 09:32:06 AM PST US
    Subject: 912S replacement fuel lift pumps
    From: "gtagr" <clive.maf@googlemail.com>
    Hi all, I got a letter from Rotax recently telling me that I was entitled to a free replacement lift pump for a 912S AC pump I bought to solve a problem in 2009. The fuel pump fitted to the original engine began spitting out fuel (yes fuel), from the oil vent hole underneath. On changing it from the original to a Rotax-supplied AC pump, my fuel economy improved by about 1 litre/hr. Anyway, I collected the new design/free pump on Friday and fitted it to the engine over the weekend - but I envisage a fit problem with the cowling - as the latest pump body is larger. It touches (only just) on the pump body - please see attached pic. Wondered if anyone has had the same problem and what they did about it please? Clive Sutton Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413928#413928 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0513_126.jpg


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    Time: 03:26:58 PM PST US
    From: Bud Yerly <budyerly@msn.com>
    Subject: If it ain't broke, don't fix it
    Dave=2C I had the same problem on one of the three mod 78s I've done. I hate to sa y it but since you are quite skilled=2C cut the fairing and save the piece and make a door to look in. It's not structural and it makes life so much easier. As for the bushes=2C you bet it is a problem. To get a bit of clearance in one aircraft we actually set the dihedral a tenth of a degree short to get the bushes and the spars to clear. You have my info on the rest of the rig problems. Send your pics to my site for me to review. I have a completed set of wing s that I have to retrofit to a different aircraft. Not excited about it bu t I'll keep folks posted. Best Regards=2C Bud Yerly > Subject: Europa-List: If it ain't broke=2C don't fix it > From: djaflyact@gmail.com > Date: Thu=2C 21 Nov 2013 07:37:50 -0800 > To: europa-list@matronics.com > > > Well=2C mod 78 progresses. I keep hearing the phrase "if it ain't broke =2C don't fix it" over and over in my head. The spars are complete except f or post cure and the setting of the bushings in the wing. It says to open t he holes up to 7/8 inch for the bushes. They are a fairly tight fit. I thin k there should be some slop in there to allow resetting of the dihedral. > > The spar is as thin as I could make it. Yesterday was the trial fit of th e left wing. Nothing has changed except for the spar dimensions=2C so it sh ould go right in. It does..except for the last 1/8 inch. Frustrating. > > I've replaced the top air brake bracket screws with flush and it looks li ke the added BID that is in the upper corner of the tunnel has some high po ints that are contacting the spar and preventing the aft pin on the fuselag e side from going all the way in=2C due to the spar not being quite all the way forward. I hope so=2C because I don't know what else it could be. The difficulty is that it is difficult to see what is going on in the tunnel an d the wing root fairings prevent seeing what is going on with the sockets - especially the forward one. Not looking forward to reaching in there and s anding and sanding and sanding. > > I'll attach pictures. Any words of wisdom would be greatly appreciated. > > I do have an oven setup for post cure=2C however. Using foam panels and a thermostatically controlled heater=2C I am able to maintain a range of 120 to 125F. That is measured by a meat thermometer at spar level in the box. It can also ramp up the temperature like prescribed. > > If it ain't broke=2C don't fix it! > > Dave A227 > Mini U2 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413647#413647 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/post_cure_setup_160.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/socket_not_in_645.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/hump_192.jpg > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > >


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    Time: 03:47:50 PM PST US
    From: Bud Yerly <budyerly@msn.com>
    Subject: 912S replacement fuel lift pumps
    Clive=2C I have installed two of the pumps and had no problem with clearance on the cowl. I have not seen your pics. Could you please forward them to my pers onal site: budyerly@msn.com. The new pump has a different flow rate and higher pressure. Lockwood Aviat ion (Local Rotax Dealer) cautioned me about the higher pressure to the 912S carbs=2C but our fuel pressure is still below the 5.8PSI max. Your liter per hour seems like a very large improvement in fuel economy. Check your E GT and temps in that it may be leaning on you a bit. A line may be pinched or clogged. Regards=2C Bud Yerly > Subject: Europa-List: 912S replacement fuel lift pumps > From: clive.maf@googlemail.com > Date: Sun=2C 24 Nov 2013 09:31:29 -0800 > To: europa-list@matronics.com > > > Hi all=2C > > I got a letter from Rotax recently telling me that I was entitled to a fr ee replacement lift pump for a 912S AC pump I bought to solve a problem in 2009. The fuel pump fitted to the original engine began spitting out fuel (yes fuel)=2C from the oil vent hole underneath. On changing it from the o riginal to a Rotax-supplied AC pump=2C my fuel economy improved by about 1 litre/hr. > > Anyway=2C I collected the new design/free pump on Friday and fitted it to the engine over the weekend - but I envisage a fit problem with the cowlin g - as the latest pump body is larger. It touches (only just) on the pump body - please see attached pic. Wondered if anyone has had the same proble m and what they did about it please? > > Clive Sutton > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=413928#413928 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0513_126.jpg > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > >


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    Time: 11:16:34 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: graphics
    From: alan.twigg775@gmail.com
    I know I must be getting close. As I am planning final vinyl graphics. Does anyone have a blank outline of the fuselage? Regards Alan Twigg Kit 463 Still building but close to paint. Sent from my iPhone > On 20 Nov 2013, at 18:58, "Steven Pitt" <steven.pitt2@ntlworld.com> wrote: > > Ian, > Well done - what a relief to hear those words. > Steve Pitt > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Iancook > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 4:21 PM > Subject: Re: Europa-List: long wing spin test results? > > LAA confirmed with me today they are now satisfied with results and are do ing the necessary paperwork to issue the PERMIT TO FLY . > > Ian > G-CBHI > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 20 Nov 2013, at 16:15, Peter Zutrauen <peterz@zutrasoft.com> wrote: >> >> Has anyone heard of any updates since: >> >> "Europa Motor Glider wing awaiting approval >> We have submitted the results of the Motorglider spin testing to the LAA a nd we are currently discussing this with them. We are hopeful of a resolutio n and an approval in the not too distant future." >> >> I'm sure folks would like to see what the spin tests and their results we re. >> >> Cheers and thx, >> >> Pete A239 > > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > href='3D"http://www.aeroelectric.com"'>www.aeroelectric.com > href='3D"http://www.buildersbooks.com"'>www.buildersbooks.com > href='3D"http://www.homebuilthelp.com"'>www.homebuilthelp.com > href='3D"http://www.mypilotstore.com"'>www.mypilotstore.com > href='3D"http://www.mrrace.com"'>www.mrrace.com > href='3D"http://www.matronics.com/contribution"'>http://www.matronics.co m/contribution > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > href='3D"http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List"'>http://www.mat ronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > href='3D"http://forums.matronics.com"'>http://forums.matronics.com > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D




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