---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 11/25/13: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 0. 12:47 AM - [PLEASE READ] Why I Have A Fund Raiser... (Matt Dralle) 1. 02:10 AM - Fuel pump (Klaus Dietrich) 2. 07:16 AM - Re: Re: graphics (Jeff B) 3. 08:08 AM - Re: Re: graphics (Rowland Carson) 4. 09:40 AM - Re: graphics (Europaul383) 5. 10:07 AM - Re: Re: graphics (Paul Mansfield) 6. 11:30 AM - Re: Re: graphics (Andrew Sarangan) 7. 12:45 PM - Re: Re: graphics (Rob Housman) 8. 06:07 PM - Re: Re: graphics (Andrew Sarangan) 9. 09:54 PM - Re: If it ain't broke, don't fix it (djaflyact) ________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________ Time: 12:47:02 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Europa-List: [PLEASE READ] Why I Have A Fund Raiser... >From the beginning, the Matronics List and Forum experience has been free from advertising. I have been approached by fair number of vendors wanting to tap into the large volume of activity across the various lists hosted here, but have always flatly refused. 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Matt Dralle Email List Admin. ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:10:21 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Fuel pump From: Klaus Dietrich ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:16:28 AM PST US From: Jeff B Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: graphics Alan, If you're dealing with a graphic shop, just take a well centered digital picture of the fuselage, without the wings attached. Then carefully measure from front to rear and give the shop the picture and measurement. They will take it from there. If you're sketching it on paper, you're on your own... :) Jeff - Baby Blue On 11/25/2013 1:15 AM, alan.twigg775@gmail.com wrote: > I know I must be getting close. As I am planning final vinyl graphics. > Does anyone have a blank outline of the fuselage? > Regards > Alan Twigg > Kit 463 > Still building but close to paint. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 20 Nov 2013, at 18:58, "Steven Pitt" > wrote: > >> Ian, >> Well done - what a relief to hear those words. >> Steve Pitt >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Iancook >> *To:* europa-list@matronics.com >> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 20, 2013 4:21 PM >> *Subject:* Re: Europa-List: long wing spin test results? >> >> LAA confirmed with me today they are now satisfied with results >> and are doing the necessary paperwork to issue the PERMIT TO FLY . >> >> Ian >> G-CBHI >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 20 Nov 2013, at 16:15, Peter Zutrauen > > wrote: >> >>> Has anyone heard of any updates since: >>> >>> "Europa Motor Glider wing awaiting approval >>> >>> We have submitted the results of the Motorglider spin testing to >>> the LAA and we are currently discussing this with them. We are >>> hopeful of a resolution and an approval in the not too distant >>> future." >>> >>> I'm sure folks would like to see what the spin tests and their >>> results were. >>> >>> Cheers and thx, >>> >>> Pete A239 >>> >>> * >>> >>> * >> * >> >> 3D============================================ >> href='3D"http://www.aeroelectric.com"'>www.aeroelectric.com >> href='3D"http://www.buildersbooks.com"'>www.buildersbooks.com >> href='3D"http://www.homebuilthelp.com"'>www.homebuilthelp.com >> href='3D"http://www.mypilotstore.com"'>www.mypilotstore.com >> href='3D"http://www.mrrace.com"'>www.mrrace.com >> href='3D"http://www.matronics.com/contribution"'>http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> 3D============================================ >> href='3D"http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List"'>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List >> 3D============================================ >> href='3D"http://forums.matronics.com"'>http://forums.matronics.com >> 3D============================================ >> * >> >> * >> >> * > * > > * > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:08:29 AM PST US From: Rowland Carson Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: graphics On 25 Nov 2013, at 07:15, alan.twigg775@gmail.com wrote: > I know I must be getting close. As I am planning final vinyl graphics. > Does anyone have a blank outline of the fuselage? Alan - is this any use? in friendship Rowland | Rowland Carson ... that's Rowland with a 'w' ... | http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk | Skype, Twitter: rowland_carson Facebook: Rowland Carson | pictures: http://picasaweb.google.com/rowlandcarson ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:40:47 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: graphics From: "Europaul383" These extracts from the Manual (converted to jpeg for your viewing pleasure) might help... Paul M 383 XS Mono 912S Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=414062#414062 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/tri_gear_769.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/monowheel_409.jpg ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:07:29 AM PST US From: Paul Mansfield Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: graphics Oops - crossed in the ether! Paul -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rowland Carson Sent: 25 November 2013 16:08 Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: graphics On 25 Nov 2013, at 07:15, alan.twigg775@gmail.com wrote: > I know I must be getting close. As I am planning final vinyl graphics. > Does anyone have a blank outline of the fuselage? Alan - is this any use? in friendship Rowland | Rowland Carson ... that's Rowland with a 'w' ... | http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk | Skype, Twitter: rowland_carson Facebook: Rowland Carson | pictures: http://picasaweb.google.com/rowlandcarson ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:30:11 AM PST US From: Andrew Sarangan Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: graphics If you have sketchup, you might want to try this 3D model, which was built by extruding the 2D images from the manual: http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=697702460dbbbf64db42efd27806432c&prevstart=0 On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Europaul383 wrote: > > These extracts from the Manual (converted to jpeg for your viewing pleasure) might help... > > Paul M > 383 > XS Mono 912S > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=414062#414062 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/tri_gear_769.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/monowheel_409.jpg > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:45:22 PM PST US From: "Rob Housman" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: graphics Do you have a version of this file that can be opened in SolidWorks? Best regards, Rob Housman Europa XS A070 Rotax 914 Airframe complete Avionics a work in progress -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Sarangan Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 11:29 AM Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: graphics If you have sketchup, you might want to try this 3D model, which was built by extruding the 2D images from the manual: http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=697702460dbbbf64db42efd27 806432c&prevstart=0 On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Europaul383 wrote: > --> > > These extracts from the Manual (converted to jpeg for your viewing pleasure) might help... > > Paul M > 383 > XS Mono 912S > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=414062#414062 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/tri_gear_769.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/monowheel_409.jpg > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:07:17 PM PST US From: Andrew Sarangan Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: graphics I used sketchup to make the file, but I did manage to convert to autocad some time ago. Sorry, I don't know solidworks. On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Rob Housman wrote: > > Do you have a version of this file that can be opened in SolidWorks? > > > Best regards, > > Rob Housman > Europa XS A070 > Rotax 914 > Airframe complete > Avionics a work in progress > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Sarangan > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 11:29 AM > To: Europa List > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: graphics > > > If you have sketchup, you might want to try this 3D model, which was built > by extruding the 2D images from the manual: > > http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=697702460dbbbf64db42efd27 > 806432c&prevstart=0 > > > On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Europaul383 > wrote: >> --> >> >> These extracts from the Manual (converted to jpeg for your viewing > pleasure) might help... >> >> Paul M >> 383 >> XS Mono 912S >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=414062#414062 >> >> >> >> >> Attachments: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/tri_gear_769.jpg >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/monowheel_409.jpg >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:54:39 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: If it ain't broke, don't fix it From: "djaflyact" Update on Mod 78: I found the problem with a camera on a snake - those things are really cheap now. $60. I went in through the air brake hole. It revealed that the forward socket pin was not fully engaging as well. I used the old socket as a guide to drill the hole through the metal plate and did not get the hole large enough. The pin was contacting the metal and not going all the way in. I drilled it out larger and now the pin goes in, the aft pin goes in and I was able to get the wing in with all pins engaged. I checked the dihedral and it is right. I have the starboard wing in its post cure tonight - pulling an all nighter. That was a change of plans. I chickened out on the thermostatically controlled heater. It was cold soaked overnight and over-reacted. INstead, I went with lights and a small heater in the fan mode only. Trial and error ended up with 388 watts to maintain the 50C. Being paranoid and not wanting to overheat the spar, I have 4 measurements of the temperature. It stabilized in the foam panel oven at the right temperature and there is no risk of over temping the spar tang. It is in an insulated hangar and might drop as the night gets colder. I've got a couple trips to make out there in the middle of the night. Next step is to fit the right wing and set up the rigging cure. glue in the bushings and hopefully the airplane can fly again. If you are going to do this mod, do it as soon as you can in a non flying airplane. The camera helped with seeing the front pin, but without the root fairing it is much easier. Bud: I will go with the inspection hole in the fairing if I run into the problems. Thanks for the suggestion. That would be on the bottom and make seeing the socket easy. Attached pictures of the cure setup tonight. Almost there! Dave A227 Mini U2 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=414095#414095 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/tv_view_of_socket_455.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/post_cure_final_126.jpg ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.