---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 12/09/13: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:49 AM - Dutch question (Jan de Jong) 2. 08:50 AM - Europa XS Tri Gear Salvage (jag0000) 3. 02:39 PM - Re: One wing Low (Alan Carter) 4. 02:48 PM - Re: Re: One wing Low (GRAHAM SINGLETON) 5. 03:00 PM - Re: One wing Low (Alan Carter) 6. 03:09 PM - What material is the thin yellow foam? (Andrew Sarangan) 7. 03:30 PM - Re: Re: One wing Low (Pete) 8. 04:53 PM - Re: Re: One wing Low (bill) 9. 05:30 PM - Re: Re: One wing Low (Jan de Jong) 10. 09:09 PM - Re: What material is the thin yellow foam? (Fred Klein) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:49:29 AM PST US From: Jan de Jong Subject: Europa-List: Dutch question Question to Dutch owners of a Europa. All Europas in the Dutch register seem to have had their type changed a while ago into "Europa AL ....". I would like to know what the "AL" means if anything. "Avion **Lgre"? Thanks. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:50:17 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Europa XS Tri Gear Salvage From: "jag0000" Europa XS badly damaged from off airport landing... perfect for someone who would like to finsih build quickly...approx. 650 hrs TT..have just about everything needed to finish except 914 turbo is sold.... Inventory: Airmaster prop controller Vacuum pump (1 year old) Radiator Regulator (150 hours) Airspeed indicator Turn and bank, slip indicator Tru track 2 axis Vacuum gauge DG Compass heading Artificial horizon Altimeter Vertical Speed indicator VOR nav Fuel gauge Turbo indicator warning lights Rocky Mountain engine monitor, rpm, hours, Hobbs, manifold pressure Air box differential Engine cylinder temp 2 heads sensor Oil temp gauge Oil pressure ICOM flip flop radio Terra VOR nav Air master prop controller (upgraded 3 years ago) Elec flaps switch n motor Elec. trim horizontal stabilizer Terra nav com with markers lights n audio Becker transponder (2 years old) Garmin 296 Instruments lights Map light Nav light and strobe switches (one nav light damaged in transporting) Rear Whelen strobe light Finger brakes Parking brake Wings were not damaged in accident but have major dings from transportation. Nose gear is broken but main gear are fine. See photos for instrument details... Please email me directly at jag0000@gmail.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=415207#415207 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/instrument_rt_806.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/instrument_lft_733.jpg ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:39:58 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: One wing Low From: "Alan Carter" Hi all. I have a similar problem, my left wing want to drop , have to hold stick to the right, then hold on rudder to keep ball in centre. Fly,s much better two up just a tiny bit of stick right. I like the idea of an adjustable aileron trim tab, but I rather go along and buy something off the shelf and a tube of Araldite, just don't have the time to spare, Has anyone made up a radio controlled stick on trim tab, they must be some model makes out there, Regards. Alan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=415253#415253 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:48:33 PM PST US From: GRAHAM SINGLETON Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: One wing Low Alan=0Athere is a stick on fix, the Gurney Flap.=0ATry a 6" long strip of n arrow draught excluder foam, stick it on the underside of the right aileron trailing edge.=0ATest fly. The flap will nudge the aileron up a bit and co unter the left roll tendency.=0AIt works.=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A__________ ______________________=0A From: Alan Carter =0ATo : europa-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Monday, 9 December 2013, 22:39=0ASubje ct: Europa-List: Re: One wing Low=0A =0A=0A--> Europa-List message posted b y: "Alan Carter" =0A=0AHi all.=0AI have a similar problem, my left wing want to drop , have to hold stick to the right, then hold on rudder to keep ball in centre.=0AFly,s much better two up just a t iny bit of stick right.=0A=0AI like the idea of an- adjustable aileron tr im tab, but I rather go along and buy something off the shelf and a tube of Araldite, just don't have the time to spare,=0AHas anyone made up a radio controlled stick on trim tab, they must be some model makes out there,=0ARe gards.=0AAlan=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums ===== ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:00:21 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: One wing Low From: "Alan Carter" Hi Graham. Some one mention adjustable, I find a lot of difference flying one up. It surprised me as to the amount of difference between flying one up and two up. so it would be nice to have something you can adjust from the cockpit. Alan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=415256#415256 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:09:01 PM PST US From: Andrew Sarangan Subject: Europa-List: What material is the thin yellow foam? Does anyone know what that thin (1/8"?) yellowish foam used extensively on the aircraft? Searching through the archive, there was a mention of it being PVC foam. Aircraftspruce and Wicks do not seem to have anything that looks similar, The only 1/8" foam I could find was Divinycell PVC foam, which is blue and has a density of 3 lb/ft3. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:30:04 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: One wing Low From: Pete Maybe a simple spring adjustment in the cabin? > On Dec 9, 2013, at 5:59 PM, "Alan Carter" wrote: > > > Hi Graham. > Some one mention adjustable, I find a lot of difference flying one up. > It surprised me as to the amount of difference between flying one up and two up. so it would be nice to have something you can adjust from the cockpit. > Alan > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=415256#415256 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 04:53:15 PM PST US From: bill Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: One wing Low I use a bungy cord cord from the stick to the centre tunnel. Adjustment is by a yacht rope cleat. Low cost, simple to install and works a treat. Sue and Bill Sisley On 10/12/2013 11:59 a.m., Alan Carter wrote: > > Hi Graham. > Some one mention adjustable, I find a lot of difference flying one up. > It surprised me as to the amount of difference between flying one up and two up. so it would be nice to have something you can adjust from the cockpit. > Alan > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=415256#415256 > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 05:30:24 PM PST US From: Jan de Jong Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: One wing Low If I understand the physics correctly.. For a lateral mass imbalance (the equivalent of) a sideways force on the stick that is proportional to g-force is in principle the only correct compensation. A certain sideways force is only good at one g-force. A certain aerodynamic correction is only good at one g-force and one airspeed. The bungy cord (second best of these) looks good to me. On 12/10/2013 1:52 AM, bill wrote: > > I use a bungy cord cord from the stick to the centre tunnel. > Adjustment is by a yacht rope cleat. > > Low cost, simple to install and works a treat. > > Sue and Bill Sisley > On 10/12/2013 11:59 a.m., Alan Carter wrote: >> >> >> Hi Graham. >> Some one mention adjustable, I find a lot of difference flying one up. >> It surprised me as to the amount of difference between flying one up >> and two up. so it would be nice to have something you can adjust from >> the cockpit. >> Alan ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:09:46 PM PST US From: Fred Klein Subject: Re: Europa-List: What material is the thin yellow foam? On Dec 9, 2013, at 3:08 PM, Andrew Sarangan wrote: > Does anyone know what that thin (1/8"?) yellowish foam used > extensively on the aircraft? I believe it is "Last-a-Foam"...unsure of the type...feels and sand like urethane...very handy stuff...Fred ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.