---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 12/11/13: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:33 AM - Re: One wing low (Alain Chabert) 2. 02:54 AM - Re: One wing low (Pete Lawless) 3. 05:16 AM - Re: One wing Low (Alan Carter) 4. 03:28 PM - Re: One wing Low (Alan Carter) 5. 06:49 PM - Re: Dutch question (John Heykoop) 6. 08:33 PM - Fuel tank outlet connector hose (Andrew Sarangan) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:33:31 AM PST US From: Alain Chabert Subject: Re: Europa-List: One wing low Hi all Mine cost a few Euro and works fine since 1999 without energy. See attachment. *Alain CHABERT* Gsm:+33-6-07.71.02.17 e-mail : _alainchabert@wanadoo.fr_ Le 11/12/13 00:37, Jim McAvoy a crit : > > Thanks Tony, I was about to throw in my 2 bobs worth. > > I also experienced some "one wing low" symptoms early on, but did not want the (slight) extra weight and complications of servos etc. or the cosmetic ugliness of trim tabs. > My fix for both aileron and rudder trim turned out to be what I consider an elegant solution. > > For lateral adjustments, I made attach points at the base of the control stick and ran light bungee cord either side to small plastic cleats, I think they are designed for blind cords. It's simple in flight to reach down and adjust the tension, which biases in either direction. > > Same idea for the rudder. The bungee goes from the rudder pedal to a small pulley on the firewall and back up to cleats either side of the footwell, within reach during flight. > > The only time I need to change the roll bungee is when I have a passenger aboard. Once the rudder was set I found I could remove one side. In my case there would be no more than 1 lb of pull applied, however the system is capable of 5 or 6 lb, any more than that and I would be looking at overall rigging (uneven angle of incidence perhaps, or engine mount alignment). > > If you would like some pics, email me direct jimca@ozemail.com.au but it will take a while as the Europa is in storage for the next month or so. > > Jim McAvoy > XS Mono > VH-IHV > Australia > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:54:11 AM PST US From: "Pete Lawless" Subject: RE: Europa-List: One wing low Hi Alan Like it a lot - really neat solution to the problem and very simple! Regards Pete G-RMAC Classic Mono 912UL -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alain Chabert Sent: 11 December 2013 08:33 Subject: Re: Europa-List: One wing low Hi all Mine cost a few Euro and works fine since 1999 without energy. See attachment. Alain CHABERT Gsm : +33-6-07.71.02.17 e-mail : alainchabert@wanadoo.fr -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:16:10 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: One wing Low From: "Alan Carter" Hi All. Some wonderful ideas , Blue Tooth, they would all work fine, but for the none builder my glue on radio servo would do the trick, However a small increase in weight would be there and I had not thought about balancing, Peter I would not have a clue how to rebalance the aileron. So as a more simple measure, what about a small super thin light aluminium tab. Stuck on with double-sided Velcro, and you could have the tab in two parts, so when flying one up you could add the other section so having now a larger tab for compensation. This would be very light, so I would have a negligible effect on the balancing. There is a sizeable out of trim force when flying alone compared with a passenger in the other seat, and this applies to all the Europa's I thing, Alan Sorry chaps some advanced ideas, but for me its got to be simple or off the shelf. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=415379#415379 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:28:50 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: One wing Low From: "Alan Carter" Hi Alain I like your set of springs great idea, nice of you to post the photo,s. Think I could manage that one Ok, Many thanks. Alan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=415416#415416 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:49:25 PM PST US From: John Heykoop Subject: Re: Europa-List: Dutch question Jan "Europa AL" is probably an abbreviation of the manufacturer's name "Europa A ircraft Limited" and not part of the aircraft type, which the Dutch register shows as "Europa", "Europa XS" or "Europa XS TG". John Europa XS G-JHKP > On 9 Dec 2013, at 10:48, Jan de Jong wrote: > > Question to Dutch owners of a Europa. > All Europas in the Dutch register seem to have had their type changed a wh ile ago into "Europa AL ....". > I would like to know what the "AL" means if anything. "Avion L=C3=A9g=C3=A8 re"? > > Thanks. > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:33:44 PM PST US From: Andrew Sarangan Subject: Europa-List: Fuel tank outlet connector hose This is the rubber hose that clamps over the tank outlet and the aluminum insert fitting (F09C). The ID of this hose is 1", but my tank outlet nipple is about 1.15". This is a very rigid and unforgiving hose, so it is hard to stretch. But even if I could force it I am concerned if it might put excessive clamping force on the plastic nipple. Or worse, it may be impossible to remove later without cutting the tube, and then I might risk cutting into the underlying plastic nipple as well. >From the little bit I could gather from the label, this is Semperflex Multi-Purpose Mineral Oil Hose, 25 Bar max pressure (350psi). This rating sounds like an overkill to me. My guess is that the fuel pressure at this point is not going to be more than a couple of psi so chemical compatibility is more important than pressure or wall thickness. I was thinking of replacing this with a thinner more flexible Buna-N hose, but wanted to hear how other builders solved this problem. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.