---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 01/08/14: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:30 AM - Bulkhead Material (Tony Renshaw) 2. 06:08 AM - Re: XS Tri-Gear Speed Kit Parts. (Frans Veldman) 3. 06:25 AM - Re: Re: XS Tri-Gear Speed Kit Parts. (Frans Veldman) 4. 01:25 PM - Re: Bulkhead Material (craig) 5. 04:56 PM - Re: Re: Mono dolly (Kingsley Hurst) 6. 07:41 PM - Re: Bulkhead Material (Robert Borger) 7. 08:05 PM - Re: Bulkhead Material (Tony Renshaw) 8. 09:37 PM - Re: Mono dolly (rparigoris) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:30:12 AM PST US From: Tony Renshaw Subject: Europa-List: Bulkhead Material > Hi, Can someone please remind me of the name of a material I can buy from ACS t hat can be used as a substrate for a small reinforcement bulkhead within a w ing fairing? I don't mean foam, if someone with a sense of humour might sugg est, but something cloth on both sides will stick to,well,,and ideally is on ly 1/8-1/4" in thickness. Thanks in anticipation. Regards Tony Renshaw. P.S. It's just dawned on me, we have used balsa as such a medium, but I thin k there is a purpose specific board. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:08:14 AM PST US From: Frans Veldman Subject: Re: Europa-List: XS Tri-Gear Speed Kit Parts. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 01/04/2014 04:21 PM, Richard Wheelwright wrote: > UK List, I'm thinking of now fitting the Europa Speed Kit to G-PW > and just wanted to see if anyone in the UK had any of the parts > available, and wanting to to sell them? even if it is just one > Item will help. I have the flap hinge fairings for sale (although I don't live in the UK but mailing these things is not a big problem). Frans -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJSzVtSAAoJEC+zXxqs0ZzVeXsQALAD1O0j3KIGQrIAOCJIYIrM TeneD0HPQx4p3yy0DxMo4G5HYiIPryRUl6xcWj9n6J70+r0F8IRWHBxIh1C5Ib4w Y1a6jL7LPYBcOGiNAQLaj/q+U+5SxW2B+vu6T4J5IZ3mmB0udVx+ey7+kWl6m4VO LMlN6l1YOt98KmXtDKKxKZC1WwDLccJr7Bd8eIwLUHShY+vqKeOsgbY2qa1kYY8W 1eUYNmyd95zTlEhnyNLfTk1pbbHDOhZ7/SIoP+Ynjlanaqtbj2Zanqn9FS03jeh1 kmwN79Q2GgrFjSsGlOuczaaYvJVqB557Io0ydGcRhX9IVK+do7x3NURIerSlZvz+ 4KyPz9Fc8pmUGtzgGNIM4/LFoeX8P65yauPvwedr/sE0kqVUQefLOU8TsIf1e2Ip r6RwpPOPmy9+VRj4bx/oBP03tOKyqMt/HjAA+QCen+1xMeh/aT/gLC3AWqX8StfJ 7GzcPUyaImUkZOO1oAYHZ/OwJo82cjdTxn32lxX/6rgJAoN7IKZ/FmE4xPmZcojk 1WZniKtOyhuIplrijCDE1pvMyjzjp86L+R/ekRppaiEthLkfoy/VWPAQcZhLelTq Jv1OElKcIPMhRJeVlW7CjqBhSMpJXHocrixc8zkV3FGz37PsXIybWBBOobeU0h7A AlmclqYwKJSmzS4jfxF/ =XMHm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:25:22 AM PST US From: Frans Veldman Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: XS Tri-Gear Speed Kit Parts. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 01/04/2014 10:43 PM, jonathanmilbank wrote: > The speed kit in its entirety doesn't appeal, because I don't > fancy having to clean grass and mud repeatedly from inside the > spats, nor struggling to check brake pads and inflate tyres. My "home field" is a muddy grass strip. But I never have to clean out the spats (but I would have to clean the underside of the wing after every landing without the spats). If your home field is a grass strip, you don't have to worry much about the brake pads, but if your home field is a hard surface you don't have to worry about mud and grass. I remove the spats once a year, sufficient for maintenance, brake pad checks, and cleaning out the inside of the spats. > But I see that some folk fit "pants" on the legs and fairings over > the hinges. My question is "What are the different figures between > the two arrangements, with or without wheel spats, in terms of > weight and speed gain?" Never measured these things individually, but from what I know about it is that tubular constructions (like the legs) are extremely draggy (some folks even claim that leg fairings have a greater benefit than wheel spats) and that the hinge fairings are probably adding drag instead of removing it. The hinges are pretty much knifes slicing through the air, but with the fairing there is much more skin drag due to the increased surface, and the opening at the rear is one of the worst things you can do to any aerodynamic profile. I have left the hinge fairings off, made a few tiny simple fairings for the transition between wing and hinges to just cover the bolts and reduce interference drag and keeping the rest of the hinge as is, and optimised the outboard "double" hinges which are legacy things from the monowheel (to avoid recertification of the wings and controls after changing the gear lay out). Frans -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJSzV9KAAoJEC+zXxqs0ZzV0P4QAMsZut/lG2bDAFYlJskSLAgT 5ysBxbraDoKD61Maxjk7x6myEVQJWT3Ogo9Hdu70Y/hb3Zeqs891IkQ3IVUH1t4b U36t2FGn0aT3A816E1sqHqwRi1eDGjceYjRFpeGSsUHzpv1p6HwRrybZ4kvt+5fM R+zwl5yTG5D6J5JpKlJQqwaKyeLzcfc9m3XYJoGcAbyEZzodW6FUA1Oq3cKm1RFw K0J1fpcx5Qhgpz9i+KnBIKIYm3+p6Se2JcM5FgV/5msVY4BDL0fIxA2vsAnVxBSV sqEkVWNCN5VuSvjXF0UnnSd1eXIrZUKMfS4wjMfpki4AYuxu70aJchh7IwkvtHKy mVsSx+A7z+1YpAUJCLM1sseNuBPRaA/KR+aF9NKwD4gyvlVAB37cJNSY+Pz68A+F R+DREVWX88OY5EQPaUby1r+Uq1TTzfohUR/CLr+pGdoSxdPFt311lVo6ddy9iErZ q2HkOgbZryZ5nGqnYxOz6vQqnFUUnWgkAJRKiw2hHEbDtuqSGNbBAQFOyEuG/fEi YuSPo2g2yuyxyz2vusa82qTpXhCvW4up1tcYTZY87S0tyjbfykEA0cd0EfHKRd8e 4+M6pn/hjyPZOZCojJA9LM8gGr328/pu9F9sor8R5r3WIqokEq0rFm+o7vpUPQ+/ eeYnpwrP/97cPuDkOMC0 =FUD0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:25:28 PM PST US From: "craig" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Bulkhead Material How about flex core, it's the stuff used to make the rear bulkhead, as you already said balsa wood will bond well too and you can shape it easily Regards craig ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:56:23 PM PST US From: "Kingsley Hurst" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Mono dolly > Would someone be kind enough to measure the distance between the ground > and the bottom of the fuse at the point where the cowl meets the fuse > (firewall) on a completed mono sitting on the ground. Ron, Height on ours is 490mm or 19.3". Tyre is 700 x 6. Photos to clarify attached. Kingsley ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:41:27 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Bulkhead Material From: Robert Borger Tony, Polyurethane rigid foam sheet is usually what is used for bulkheads, etc. Probably 1/8 or 1/4 inch thick. It is extremely easy to shape with hand tools (saw, knife, abrasives, etc.), but do not hot-wire as it produces cyanide gas when vaporized. If you can not get the thickness material you need from ACS, you can try McMaster-Carr. Shipping weight for the material isn=92t an issue but packaging bulk is. Blue skies & tailwinds, Bob Borger Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop (50 hrs). Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208-5331 Cel: 817-992-1117 rlborger@mac.com On Jan 8, 2014, at 5:29 AM, Tony Renshaw wrote: > Hi, Can someone please remind me of the name of a material I can buy from ACS that can be used as a substrate for a small reinforcement bulkhead within a wing fairing? I don't mean foam, if someone with a sense of humour might suggest, but something cloth on both sides will stick to,well,,and ideally is only 1/8-1/4" in thickness. Thanks in anticipation. Regards Tony Renshaw. P.S. It's just dawned on me, we have used balsa as such a medium, but I think there is a purpose specific board. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:05:45 PM PST US From: Tony Renshaw Subject: Re: Europa-List: Bulkhead Material Thanks for the tips. I=92ll try not to poison myself ;-) Tony R On 9 Jan 2014, at 1:39 pm, Robert Borger wrote: > Tony, > > Polyurethane rigid foam sheet is usually what is used for bulkheads, etc. Probably 1/8 or 1/4 inch thick. It is extremely easy to shape with hand tools (saw, knife, abrasives, etc.), but do not hot-wire as it produces cyanide gas when vaporized. > > If you can not get the thickness material you need from ACS, you can try McMaster-Carr. Shipping weight for the material isn=92t an issue but packaging bulk is. > > Blue skies & tailwinds, > Bob Borger > Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop (50 hrs). > Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP > 3705 Lynchburg Dr. > Corinth, TX 76208-5331 > Cel: 817-992-1117 > rlborger@mac.com > > > On Jan 8, 2014, at 5:29 AM, Tony Renshaw wrote: > >> Hi, > Can someone please remind me of the name of a material I can buy from ACS that can be used as a substrate for a small reinforcement bulkhead within a wing fairing? I don't mean foam, if someone with a sense of humour might suggest, but something cloth on both sides will stick to,well,,and ideally is only 1/8-1/4" in thickness. > Thanks in anticipation. > Regards > Tony Renshaw. > P.S. It's just dawned on me, we have used balsa as such a medium, but I think there is a purpose specific board. > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:37:27 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Mono dolly From: "rparigoris" Hi Kingsley Thx. for measuring, it was exactly what I needed. Since I'm using castering wheels, they should be as close to level when the main is off the ground and I want to go sideways. 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