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1. 01:29 AM - Re: Re: 914 battery location. (David Joyce)
2. 04:06 AM - Nicopress Sleeves (Tony Renshaw)
3. 04:16 AM - Re: Nicopress Sleeves (GRAHAM SINGLETON)
4. 05:21 AM - Re: Nicopress Sleeves (Rowland Carson)
5. 05:50 AM - Re: sealing fuel lines (William Daniell)
6. 05:53 AM - Re: sealing fuel lines (William Daniell)
7. 10:47 AM - Mono fuse holders for N4211W (rparigoris)
8. 01:00 PM - Re: Nicopress Sleeves (Tony Renshaw)
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Subject: | Re: 914 battery location. |
Tony, Have just got back from skiing to be able to lay
hands on my C of G data:
I adjusted my C of G to be at 59" AOD and that
allows any combination of pilot wt 120 to 400lbs/ Fuel 0
to 110 lbs/ baggage 0 to 80 lbs to give C o G within the
58 - 62.5" range. The precise calculations will depend on
your empty wt ( that is a heavy pilot will not shift the C
o G so far in a heavy plane). It means that I never have
to do any calculations of wt & balance and do not risk
flying out of safe balance range. So I would suggest 59"
is an ideal figure to aim at, and would be interested to
hear any contrary views.
Regards, David
On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 22:59:53 +0000 (GMT)
GRAHAM SINGLETON <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com> wrote:
> Makes sense Tony,
> but make sure you get the full 13deg. up elevator.
> Graham
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: jonathanmilbank <jdmilbank@yahoo.co.uk>
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Sunday, 16 February 2014, 15:54
> Subject: Europa-List: Re: 914 battery location.
>
>
><jdmilbank@yahoo.co.uk>
>
> Tony, I agree with David Joyce and furthermore while my
>aircraft was a mono-wheel for 16 years, I did temporarily
>move the battery from the engine bay to inside the rear
>fuselage. My old classic has the baggage bay bulkhead
>further forward.
>
> I and three experienced friends who share my aircraft
>all agreed that having the C of G further aft was a
>mistake, because the tendency to swing off runway
>direction on landing was noticeably worse.
>
> Having the original very direct steering tail-wheel
>under the fin gave us immediate feedback to directional
>control issues on the ground, which can be masked by the
>springy links in the more recently extended tail-wheel
>design.
>
> I know this for sure because I did the first test
>flights for a friend's 914 mono-wheel aircraft and have
>flown it for several hours subsequently. Please take the
>advice to keep the C of G mid-range or a little forward.
>You won't risk it nosing over when applying the brake as
>long as you keep the stick fully back. The tail-planes
>are very powerful.
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.co=
>-Matt Dralle========
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Subject: | Nicopress Sleeves |
Gidday,
Quick question.why cant I tidy up a nicopress and squeeze it 90 degrees rotated
after the first squeeze, to tidy the compress? If the first squeeze is correct,
the second squeeze shouldnt disturb the consequences of the first, should it??
Tony R.
Sydney Aussie
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Subject: | Re: Nicopress Sleeves |
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Subject: | Re: Nicopress Sleeves |
On 17 Feb 2014, at 12:04, Tony Renshaw wrote:
> Quick question.why cant I tidy up a nicopress and squeeze it 90 degrees rotated
after the first squeeze, to tidy the compress? If the first squeeze is correct,
the second squeeze shouldnt disturb the consequences of the first, should
it??
Tony - I'd very much hesitate to do anything outside the recommended practice.
The security of the sleeve depends on the ductile copper flowing into the surface
of the cable.
The thing with copper is that it work-hardens, which is one of the reasons that
the Nicopress people require that the 3 crimps using their tool be done in a
specific order. If you re-work an already-worked piece of copper, you could be
cracking it because it's no longer as ductile. Or, you could be loosening the
grip of the sleeve by trying to push the copper at 90 degrees to the first compression.
If you're using one of the screw-down tools that compresses right across the sleeve,
I'd suggest that you be happy with the result after the first full closure,
and not try to fiddle with it.
There's some very good stuff about all aspects of terminating cables in a recent
(Dec 2013) Kitplanes article. Here's the URL I use to read it, but you may not
be able to get there if you are not a Kitplanes subscriber:
http://www.kitplanes.com/issues/30_12/builder_spotlight/fabricating_cables_20888-1.html
in friendship
Rowland
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Subject: | Re: sealing fuel lines |
Michel
thanks for the offer ...but I wont take you up on the offer as it will
probably not arrive to Colombia....but i will search them out . there is
quite a healthy automotive components industry here.
yours
Will
William Daniell
LONGPORT
+57 310 295 0744
On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 1:03 AM, Michel AUVRAY <mau11@orange.fr> wrote:
> If you are interested I have car spring clips available (see the picture
)
> only for fuel tube diameter.
>
> Michel Auvray
>
>
> Le 17/02/2014 00:30, Alan Burrill a =E9crit :
>
> Just replaced mine.
>
> No evidence of any sealant on the old and non used on the new.
>
> Have not used worm drive but these Ezyclick clamps which are common in
> the motor industry.
>
> www.hcl-clamping.co.uk/Ezyclik-M-Low-Profile-Automotive-Hose-Clip-P3
>
> Alan
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 16 Feb 2014, at 23:06, William Daniell <wdaniell.longport@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I am installing the fuel lines.
>
> Has anyone used any kind of sealant on hose joints?
>
> I am wondering whether the worm drive clips really seal the fuel lines
>
> Will
>
>
> William Daniell
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Subject: | Re: sealing fuel lines |
thanks alan...
Will
William Daniell
LONGPORT
+57 310 295 0744
On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Alan Burrill <alanb@dpy01.co.uk> wrote:
> Just replaced mine.
>
> No evidence of any sealant on the old and non used on the new.
>
> Have not used worm drive but these Ezyclick clamps which are common in the
> motor industry.
>
> www.hcl-clamping.co.uk/Ezyclik-M-Low-Profile-Automotive-Hose-Clip-P3
>
> Alan
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 16 Feb 2014, at 23:06, William Daniell <wdaniell.longport@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I am installing the fuel lines.
>
> Has anyone used any kind of sealant on hose joints?
>
> I am wondering whether the worm drive clips really seal the fuel lines
>
> Will
>
>
> William Daniell
> LONGPORT
> +57 310 295 0744
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Subject: | Mono fuse holders for N4211W |
I finished as much as I can on the fuse holders for my Mono until it comes out
of the build cradle.
Thx. David Joyce (and Roger Targett), Nev and others for info and input.
Dummy spar and training wheels
and
Dolly
for N4211W:
http://www.europaowners.org/main.php?g2_itemId=77261
Ron Parigoris
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=418887#418887
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Subject: | Re: Nicopress Sleeves |
Hi Rowland,
Thank you for your reply. I only vaguely remember the 3 crimps. I have a big squeezer,
like a set of bolt cutters. It has about 5 positions, so you choose the
one you want, position a little out each side as it is nominally shorter than
the nicopress, hold the cable tight, and squeeze.
The issue I have is that we are squeezing things into a circle, and one could think
that you wouldnt be disturbing anything if you squeezed the small amount
of Nicopress that exudes out the jaws of your tool, back into the circle. The
other portions of the circumference shouldnt be unduly pressured, as they are
already compressed to the inner diameter.
I just struggle with the logic.
Still, I have a test tool, and they fit correctly now that they have been squeezed,
so they are correct. Ironic that there is a small link in the tailwheel setup
that has a double nicopress on each end of a 5 link. Dont know why that is,
considering by rights you shouldnt need a second nicopress.
Im about to go off and have a look at the link you gave me, and cross my fingers
that it works down under, or that I am not a subscriber. Thanks for digging
it out anyway. I think I may have a written reference here at home somewhere that
talks about these things, but on first look I couldnt find it, so that is
why I asked the list, for that collective wisdom.
Thanks again.
Regards
Tony Renshaw
On 18 Feb 2014, at 12:20 am, Rowland Carson <rowlandcarson@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 17 Feb 2014, at 12:04, Tony Renshaw wrote:
>
>> Quick question.why cant I tidy up a nicopress and squeeze it 90 degrees rotated
after the first squeeze, to tidy the compress? If the first squeeze is correct,
the second squeeze shouldnt disturb the consequences of the first, should
it??
>
> Tony - I'd very much hesitate to do anything outside the recommended practice.
>
> The security of the sleeve depends on the ductile copper flowing into the surface
of the cable.
>
> The thing with copper is that it work-hardens, which is one of the reasons that
the Nicopress people require that the 3 crimps using their tool be done in
a specific order. If you re-work an already-worked piece of copper, you could
be cracking it because it's no longer as ductile. Or, you could be loosening the
grip of the sleeve by trying to push the copper at 90 degrees to the first
compression.
>
> If you're using one of the screw-down tools that compresses right across the
sleeve, I'd suggest that you be happy with the result after the first full closure,
and not try to fiddle with it.
>
> There's some very good stuff about all aspects of terminating cables in a recent
(Dec 2013) Kitplanes article. Here's the URL I use to read it, but you may
not be able to get there if you are not a Kitplanes subscriber:
>
> http://www.kitplanes.com/issues/30_12/builder_spotlight/fabricating_cables_20888-1.html
>
> in friendship
>
> Rowland
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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