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1. 12:37 AM - Re: Re: Anyone figured how to drop TP from a Europa mono? (Max Cointe (Free))
2. 01:19 AM - AW: instrument module wider than firewall - what to do? (A. Buess Aviatik)
3. 02:51 AM - Europa glider tug (flyingphil2)
4. 05:30 AM - Re: instrument module wider than firewall - what to do? (Paul McAllister)
5. 05:35 AM - Re: Europa glider tug (Paul McAllister)
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| Subject: | Re: Anyone figured how to drop TP from a Europa mono? |
I had unfortunately to fly with the passenger door off as it departed
the
ship due to the passenger shocking the lock with his elbow=85 Kind of
=93depressurization=94, all the papers flown in the cockpit with a big
noise and
buffeting like in a storm on a boat! My first reaction was to fly the
ship
and then look where to land. As we were fortunately close to our harbor
I
started to lower the speed and was quite surprised to see that by 80Kt
when
I put the flaps out it came back to a normal behavior (actually I=92m
not even
sure if it was =93un-normal=94 reducing from cruise speed except noise
and wind
inside after it happened or few seconds later)... and I standard landed.
So to me under 100 Kt or so, flying with a door off should be a non-even
but
I wouldn=92t either have to try it again.
Max Cointe
<mailto:mcointe@free.fr> mcointe@free.fr
F-PMLH Europa XS_TriGear
Kit #560-2003 912ULS/AirmasterAP332 490 hours
F-PLDJ Dyn=92A=E9ro MCR 4S
Kit #27-2002 912ULSFR/MTProp MTV7A 1600 heures
De : owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] De la part de David
Watts
Envoy=E9 : mercredi 5 mars 2014 07:13
=C0 : europa-list@matronics.com
Objet : RE: Europa-List: Re: Anyone figured how to drop TP from a Europa
mono?
With just the passenger door off.
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fred Klein
Sent: 04 March 2014 13:53
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Anyone figured how to drop TP from a
Europa
mono?
On Mar 4, 2014, at 10:09 AM, David Watts <dg.watts@talktalk.net> wrote:
I have in fact flown with the door off my Europa for a photographic
sortie,
David=85was this done with only ONE door off, or both doors
off?
for some unknown reason, when we were on final approach I put my hand up
on
the windscreen surround where the door would normally shut, and it
suddenly
all went peaceful (maybe there is an airflow problem that can be
overcome in
a similar way that car sunroofs often have a pop up deflector that
activates
when the roof is open).
=85so with some sort of =93pop up deflector=94, might we be
talking
about open cockpit ops, leather jackets, and silk scarves to boot in the
good ol=92 summertime?
F.
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| Subject: | instrument module wider than firewall - what to do? |
Hello Rowland,
I had the same problem as you. Added a new flange inside, same solution as
Fred mentioned in his reply. It works well.
Regards, Alfred
Alfred Buess
CH-3700 Spiez, Switzerland
Europa XS HB-YKI, Ercoupe 415-E N94804
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] Im Auftrag von Rowland
Carson
Gesendet: Dienstag, 4. Mrz 2014 20:03
An: Europa e-mail list list
Betreff: Europa-List: instrument module wider than firewall - what to do?
--> <rowlandcarson@gmail.com>
I was just offering up the instrument module to the firewall (before the top
gets bonded on) and the flanges of the IM protrude beyond the edges of the
firewall. The way things are stored at present prevents me from easily
checking if the IM will fit within the shape of the upper fuselage at the
firewall. If it doesn't, it appears that the flanges of the IM will have to
be cut back so much that there will scarcely be enough meat left for the
fixings.
Has anyone else had this problem? Have I been issued with a mis-matched
instrument module & fuselage moulding?
Any observations welcome.
in friendship
Rowland
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| Subject: | Europa glider tug |
Further to an earlier posting, does anyone have any information or photos of the
Europa being used as a glider tug in Germany?
It struck me at the last LAA rally that pretty much anything with wings and a 912S
was being promoted as a glider tug and trying to tap into the Eurofox success.
I'm guessing that cooling could be a big issue on the Europa though?
Phil
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=419812#419812
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| Subject: | instrument module wider than firewall - what to do? |
Hi Rowland,
I did something similar to what Fred did. Take a look at
http://www.europa.net.nz/363/2001/images/flange_in_instrument_panel.jpg
Cheers, Paul
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fred Klein
Sent: Tuesday, March 4, 2014 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: instrument module wider than firewall - what to
do?
On Mar 4, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Rowland Carson <rowlandcarson@gmail.com
<mailto:rowlandcarson@gmail.com> > wrote:
Have I been issued with a mis-matched instrument module & fuselage
moulding?
Rowland.I would tend to doubt that; however, I found that the exterior
flange, when trimmed to allow the insertion of the instrument panel module
into the fuselage, was insufficient. Consequently, I mounted an inside
flange which allowed me to use shock mount bolts which provide a 1/2" space
between module and firewall, useful for both vibration isolation as well as
providing a means of cooling air circulation.a couple of the shock mounts
are visible thru my initial cut-out for my instrument sub-panels.Good luck,
Fred
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| Subject: | Re: Europa glider tug |
Phil
I believe that Erich Trombley visited with Walter Binder in Germany a
couple of years back. He might have some pictures.
Paul
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