---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 03/13/14: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:12 AM - Coaming Extension (Tony Renshaw) 2. 06:01 AM - Rotax - New Oil Filter removal tool (Dave Disney) 3. 06:05 AM - Re: Rotax - New Oil Filter removal tool (Dave Disney) 4. 06:28 AM - Re: sealing fuel lines (William Daniell) 5. 06:29 AM - Re: Rotax - New Oil Filter removal tool (James Kelly) 6. 01:16 PM - Re: Europa glider tug (Paul McAllister) 7. 04:11 PM - Re: Europa glider tug (GRAHAM SINGLETON) 8. 08:12 PM - Re: sealing fuel lines (William Daniell) 9. 08:31 PM - Re: sealing fuel lines (rparigoris) 10. 08:58 PM - Re: sealing fuel lines (Robert Borger) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:12:48 AM PST US From: Tony Renshaw Subject: Europa-List: Coaming Extension Gidday, I have just extended the coaming over my sub panel, a similar distance that the original one extended over the primary, and then I extended the primary to match. So, I have a coaming made out of a bunch of foam layers, all shaped up and ready to deal with. I=92d like to ask before I glass it over, whether there is any opinion of how far extended the coaming should be over the primary panel? Mine now is 4 1/2=94 or 110 mm, and it appears that it will work well. Still, others may disagree, so this is the time to ask. Thanks, in hope and anticipation. Regards Tony Renshaw P.S. It is going to be trimmed up a little more, but the 5 minute epoxy is challenging my sanding skills. I might use polyester car bog, my favourite contouring product ontop of the foam, and then sand it perfect before 2 plies of BID. Don=92t worry, my BID will lock it in ontop of the coaming and down onto the top of the primary and sub panels. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:01:08 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Rotax - New Oil Filter removal tool From: "Dave Disney" I'm just about to start the first permit renewal on my aircraft and thought I would get some stuff together to help things along. First up was to buy one of those tools for removing the oil filter. 25 and nice new tool arrives in the post a few days later. Take out of packaging and check against shiny new filter - it doesn't fit. Check with the aircraft and it fits that one OK. Research shows that Rotax have recently changed the filter design - Doh!!! The new filter looked a bit familiar to me and the old gray cells kicked in to remind me that I have a filter removal tool for the oil filter on my BMW K100 motorbike. I dug it out and hey presto BMW tool fits new Rotax oil filter. Not only this, I checked the fit on the aircraft and it will work a treat (Rotax 914 uls, cant vouch for the others). The tool is available from Moto-Bins here http://www.motobins.co.uk/bmw-parts.php?model=K+Series part number 99200 if anyone wants one. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420266#420266 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/r0015560_453.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/new_filter_new_tool_464.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/new_tool_2_137.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/new_tool_1_384.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/new_filter_old_tool_694.jpg ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:05:38 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Rotax - New Oil Filter removal tool From: "Dave Disney" I see the link didn't work correctly - use the link and scroll down to 'Tools & toolboxes' that will bring up the page I was trying to link to. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420267#420267 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:28:52 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: sealing fuel lines From: William Daniell graham thanks i will look for it...this bizarre thing about this is that i received the post today! Will William Daniell LONGPORT +57 310 295 0744 On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 6:23 PM, GRAHAM SINGLETON < grahamsingleton@btinternet.com> wrote: > Will > Aircraft Spruce sell a very good tool for sealing hoses with locking wire .. > Much better than the Jubilee clips which are very hit and miss. > Don't use sealant, too risky. > Graham > > ------------------------------ > *From:* William Daniell > *To:* europa-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Sunday, 16 February 2014, 23:06 > *Subject:* Europa-List: sealing fuel lines > > I am installing the fuel lines. > > Has anyone used any kind of sealant on hose joints? > > I am wondering whether the worm drive clips really seal the fuel lines > > Will > > > William Daniell > LONGPORT > +57 310 295 0744 > > *ank" href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List ">http://www.mat "nofol low" target="_blank" href="http://forums.matronics.com/ ">http://f ========= > > * > > > * > =========== tronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List> =========== =========== om/contribution> =========== > > * > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:29:28 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Rotax - New Oil Filter removal tool From: James Kelly Excellent tip Dave, thanks. Jim Kelly On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Dave Disney wrote : > > I'm just about to start the first permit renewal on my aircraft and > thought I would get some stuff together to help things along. First up wa s > to buy one of those tools for removing the oil filter. =A325 and nice new > tool arrives in the post a few days later. Take out of packaging and chec k > against shiny new filter - it doesn't fit. Check with the aircraft and it > fits that one OK. Research shows that Rotax have recently changed the > filter design - Doh!!! > > The new filter looked a bit familiar to me and the old gray cells kicked > in to remind me that I have a filter removal tool for the oil filter on m y > BMW K100 motorbike. I dug it out and hey presto BMW tool fits new Rotax o il > filter. Not only this, I checked the fit on the aircraft and it will work a > treat (Rotax 914 uls, cant vouch for the others). > > The tool is available from Moto-Bins here > http://www.motobins.co.uk/bmw-parts.php?model=K+Series part number > 99200 if anyone wants one. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420266#420266 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/r0015560_453.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/new_filter_new_tool_464.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/new_tool_2_137.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/new_tool_1_384.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/new_filter_old_tool_694.jpg > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:16:18 PM PST US From: "Paul McAllister" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Europa glider tug Hi Bruno, Would you happen to know how Walter Binder achieved putting fuel tanks in the wings ? In particular did he substitute the Blue for something impervious to fuel ? Paul From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of UVTREITH Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2014 6:09 AM Subject: AW: Europa-List: Europa glider tug Hi Phil, Walter Binders plane D-EPWB is a Classic Monowheel Kit 149 with Wing Fuel Tanks, elect. Retractable Outrigger Legs and a Tail Wheel with a mounting plate on top for the tow clutch. I am not quite sure if this was from an old Cessna Taildragger or a Husky. He is using his own landing strip for towing the smaller glider he is manufacturing. He also manufactures the EB 28 /29. Some years ago he had to use a parachute by test flying. Binder Motorenbau GmbH Alter Frickenh=E4user Weg 15 D-97645 Ostheim v. d. Rh=F6n Vertreten durch die Gesch=E4ftsf=FChrer Walter & Oliver Binder Tel.: +49(0)9777 - 92 00 Fax: +49(0)9777 - 92 01 www.binder-flugmotorenbau.de 097779200@t-online.de I am sure that he can help you with some information. Best Regards, Bruno Reith /EA-Germany Partner ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:11:38 PM PST US From: GRAHAM SINGLETON Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europa glider tug Paul, Bruno=0AThere's another German builder whose name I forget, lives jus t North of Hamburg and recently did his first flight.=0AHe copied Walter Bi nder's wing design wrt the outriggers. He probably knows how Walter did the tanks=0AI visited him once years ago with Norbert Hoffmann, (Norbert has d ied sadly)=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Paul McAllister =0ATo: europa-list@matronics.c om =0ASent: Thursday, 13 March 2014, 20:15=0ASubject: RE: Europa-List: Euro pa glider tug=0A =0A=0A=0AHi Bruno,=0A-=0AWould you happen to know how Wa lter Binder achieved putting fuel tanks in the wings ?- In particular did he substitute the Blue for something impervious to fuel ?=0A-=0APaul=0A -=0AFrom:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list -server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of UVTREITH=0ASent: Thursday, March 6, 201 4 6:09 AM=0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: AW: Europa-List: Europ a glider tug=0A-=0AHi Phil,=0A-=0AWalter Binders plane D-EPWB is a Clas sic Monowheel Kit 149 with Wing Fuel Tanks, elect. Retractable Outrigger Le gs and a Tail Wheel with a mounting plate on top for the tow clutch. I am n ot quite sure if this was from an old Cessna Taildragger or a Husky.=0AHe i s using his own landing strip for towing the smaller glider he is manufactu ring.=0AHe also manufactures the EB 28 /29. Some years ago he had to use a parachute by test flying.=0ABinder Motorenbau GmbH=0AAlter Frickenh=E4user Weg 15=0AD-97645 Ostheim v. d. Rh=F6n=0AVertreten durch die Gesch=E4ftsf=FC hrer Walter & Oliver Binder=0ATel.: +49(0)9777 - 92 00=0AFax: +49(0)9777 - 92 01=0Awww.binder-flugmotorenbau.de =0A097779200@t-online.de=0A-=0AI am sure that he can help you with some information.=0ABest Regards,=0A-=0ABr =========================0A ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:12:54 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: sealing fuel lines From: William Daniell Graham can you remember what this tool called? Will William Daniell LONGPORT +57 310 295 0744 On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 6:23 PM, GRAHAM SINGLETON < grahamsingleton@btinternet.com> wrote: > Will > Aircraft Spruce sell a very good tool for sealing hoses with locking wire .. > Much better than the Jubilee clips which are very hit and miss. > Don't use sealant, too risky. > Graham > > ------------------------------ > *From:* William Daniell > *To:* europa-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Sunday, 16 February 2014, 23:06 > *Subject:* Europa-List: sealing fuel lines > > I am installing the fuel lines. > > Has anyone used any kind of sealant on hose joints? > > I am wondering whether the worm drive clips really seal the fuel lines > > Will > > > William Daniell > LONGPORT > +57 310 295 0744 > > *ank" href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List ">http://www.mat "nofol low" target="_blank" href="http://forums.matronics.com/ ">http://f ========= > > * > > > * > =========== tronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List> =========== =========== om/contribution> =========== > > * > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:31:42 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: sealing fuel lines From: "rparigoris" Hi William I didn't know that tool existed (thanks Graham), but found it on ACS site: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/clamptitetoolplated.php?clickkey=87751 Be sure to check out the Video tab! Ron Parigoris Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420318#420318 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:58:54 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: sealing fuel lines From: Robert Borger William, I believe Graham was talking about this: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/pages/to/safetywiretools/clamptitetool.php I have one and it works surprisingly well where you have enough room to maneuver the tool. The resulting clamp looks like this=94 This is a double wrap. It can also be done as a single wrap. Blue skies & tailwinds, Bob Borger Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop (50 hrs). Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208-5331 Cel: 817-992-1117 rlborger@mac.com On Mar 13, 2014, at 10:11 PM, William Daniell wrote: Graham can you remember what this tool called? Will William Daniell LONGPORT +57 310 295 0744 On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 6:23 PM, GRAHAM SINGLETON wrote: Will Aircraft Spruce sell a very good tool for sealing hoses with locking wire. Much better than the Jubilee clips which are very hit and miss. Don't use sealant, too risky. Graham From: William Daniell Sent: Sunday, 16 February 2014, 23:06 Subject: Europa-List: sealing fuel lines I am installing the fuel lines. Has anyone used any kind of sealant on hose joints? 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