---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 03/14/14: 13 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:54 AM - Re: sealing fuel lines (GRAHAM SINGLETON) 2. 03:15 AM - oil (Frans Veldman) 3. 04:56 AM - Re: oil (Ivor Phillips) 4. 06:19 AM - Re: oil (Bud Yerly) 5. 06:57 AM - Re: sealing fuel lines (William Daniell) 6. 07:41 AM - Re: sealing fuel lines (Robert Borger) 7. 07:44 AM - Re: sealing fuel lines (GRAHAM SINGLETON) 8. 08:08 AM - Re: recommended oil change intervals, exclusive MOGAS (Christoph Both) 9. 09:11 AM - Re: recommended oil change intervals, exclusive MOGAS (Paul McAllister) 10. 01:03 PM - Re: oil (Frans Veldman) 11. 01:32 PM - Re: sealing fuel lines (Fred Klein) 12. 02:28 PM - Re: oil (Ivor Phillips) 13. 06:59 PM - Re: oil (Kingsley Hurst) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:54:12 AM PST US From: GRAHAM SINGLETON Subject: Re: Europa-List: sealing fuel lines Bob=0Athanks, yes that's the one. There's more than one manufacturer of the tool.=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Rob ert Borger =0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Frid ay, 14 March 2014, 3:57=0ASubject: Re: Europa-List: sealing fuel lines=0A =0A=0A=0AWilliam,=0A=0AI believe Graham was talking about this:=0A=0Ahttp:/ /www.aircraftspruce.com/pages/to/safetywiretools/clamptitetool.php=0A=0AI h ave one and it works surprisingly well where you have enough room to maneuv er the tool.=0A=0AThe resulting clamp looks like this=9D=0A=0A=0A=0AT his is a double wrap. =C2-It can also be done as a single wrap.=0A=0ABlue skies & tailwinds,=0ABob Borger=0AEuropa XS Tri, Rotax 914,=C2-Airmaster C/S Prop (50 hrs).=0ALittle Toot Sport Biplane,=C2-Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320=C2-EXP=0A3705 Lynchburg Dr.=0ACorinth, TX =C2-76208-5331=0ACel : 817-992-1117=0Arlborger@mac.com=0A=0A=0AOn Mar 13, 2014, at 10:11 PM, Wil liam Daniell wrote:=0A=0AGraham=0Acan you rem ember what this tool called?=0AWill=0A=0A=0A=0AWilliam Daniell=0ALONGPORT =0A=0A+57 310 295 0744=0A=0A=0AOn Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 6:23 PM, GRAHAM SING LETON wrote:=0A=0AWill=0A>Aircraft Spruce sell a very good tool for sealing hoses with locking wire. Much better than the Jubilee clips which are very hit and miss.=0A>Don't use sealant, too r isky.=0A>Graham=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>________________________________=0A> Fro m: William Daniell =0A>To: europa-list@matroni cs.com =0A>Sent: Sunday, 16 February 2014, 23:06=0A>Subject: Europa-List: s ealing fuel lines=0A> =0A>=0A>=0A>I am installing the fuel lines.=0A>=0A> =0A>Has anyone used any kind of sealant on hose joints? =C2-=0A>=0A>=0A>I am wondering whether the worm drive clips really seal the fuel lines=0A> =0A>=0A>Will=C2-=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>William Daniell=0A>LONGPORT=0A>=0A>+5 7 310 295 0744=0A>ank" href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-Li st">http://www.mat"nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://forums.matron ics.com/">http://f========== =0A>=0A>=0A>arget="_blan k">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution =0A=0Ahref="http://www.mat ronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa -List=0Ahref="http://forums.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com =0Ahref="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/ contribution ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:15:55 AM PST US From: Frans Veldman Subject: Europa-List: oil -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, It is time for an oil change again. However, the oil I always used is no longer available. The oil I used was Shell Advance VSX 4T. This was a Rotax approved oil, suitable for leaded and unleaded fuel. There is a replacement for this oil, the Shell Advance AX7, but I'm not sure whether this is just a name change or a formula change. So, what kind of oil are the rest of us using? Any recommendations? Anyone who kan tell me whether the Advance AX7 is just a name change? Frans -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJTItWWAAoJEC+zXxqs0ZzVbZgP/36Q+6ubWS+np6xDFEhrtHkl yBKuzpdBsZpHzvY4sJ+pvHCNZsVdto0Ke7Jf6jJqejVpcjHA/lncrlJkZ02mcJvf 7bkVQXT+1+6UMQ88PJP6B4xYofjJBVlw4huqU5kZnIumnYm3h2sfh3690S61lkJ2 XSLKLuR4PuMRcEiTrYi/d4Rt4Bk7lAkiAiZDbnkFKUOYg6I4qXeAVV1JStDA6sLM fcS5bW9Hj5EN8/zc/qIsKpDTuGqbHGYZISU4VBim45eqo6q+rGeLxXXlOeznLhYd m/j416/hhi2Wh9HJQ+8y5AMMM4tT9k1g4YY643UlICgcLjMCVtIVszAxx4RLk3eC eYxt0T5KfVHutF3avT7AmFOeijg3mzd8t47xgkFLYB/d8JF2lihXJgK/1fKAtlXP rDwm2N4F1Rmfn2UHm/3ktjslplpgZi1lnsaHtRFyHNgy5cMzHrMcHL5TNNfY5m1W fWFVoQde4UvabtuVm8Nj5V7uRb3Oqi1Iy+EyD3j7tUMBXHsaCy0YvUh3J2ephevX mqbJ+seOm3VzDzbAigUjoGrRvL6K75cnQ3se6c5MwG+EfVDkDF+CtyZRlHm/kXwx 7docGUm2K2Iwl6yE5Z7Yv9ccSnvsCroNsC2cjepbt7yjlJuVTx9RlFUDgNYV/nQf uhjSonVxHdgWTFI6tk/m =UXv/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:56:00 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: oil From: Ivor Phillips Hi Frans Like you I use the VSX 4 T but now use the shell AX7. It the same oil with slight improvements supposedly , BTW are you going to the Rotax meet at Wels this June ? Regards Ivor Sent from my iPad > On 14 Mar 2014, at 10:10, Frans Veldman wrote: > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi, > > It is time for an oil change again. However, the oil I always used is > no longer available. > The oil I used was Shell Advance VSX 4T. This was a Rotax approved > oil, suitable for leaded and unleaded fuel. There is a replacement for > this oil, the Shell Advance AX7, but I'm not sure whether this is just > a name change or a formula change. > So, what kind of oil are the rest of us using? Any recommendations? > Anyone who kan tell me whether the Advance AX7 is just a name change? > > Frans > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) > > iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJTItWWAAoJEC+zXxqs0ZzVbZgP/36Q+6ubWS+np6xDFEhrtHkl > yBKuzpdBsZpHzvY4sJ+pvHCNZsVdto0Ke7Jf6jJqejVpcjHA/lncrlJkZ02mcJvf > 7bkVQXT+1+6UMQ88PJP6B4xYofjJBVlw4huqU5kZnIumnYm3h2sfh3690S61lkJ2 > XSLKLuR4PuMRcEiTrYi/d4Rt4Bk7lAkiAiZDbnkFKUOYg6I4qXeAVV1JStDA6sLM > fcS5bW9Hj5EN8/zc/qIsKpDTuGqbHGYZISU4VBim45eqo6q+rGeLxXXlOeznLhYd > m/j416/hhi2Wh9HJQ+8y5AMMM4tT9k1g4YY643UlICgcLjMCVtIVszAxx4RLk3eC > eYxt0T5KfVHutF3avT7AmFOeijg3mzd8t47xgkFLYB/d8JF2lihXJgK/1fKAtlXP > rDwm2N4F1Rmfn2UHm/3ktjslplpgZi1lnsaHtRFyHNgy5cMzHrMcHL5TNNfY5m1W > fWFVoQde4UvabtuVm8Nj5V7uRb3Oqi1Iy+EyD3j7tUMBXHsaCy0YvUh3J2ephevX > mqbJ+seOm3VzDzbAigUjoGrRvL6K75cnQ3se6c5MwG+EfVDkDF+CtyZRlHm/kXwx > 7docGUm2K2Iwl6yE5Z7Yv9ccSnvsCroNsC2cjepbt7yjlJuVTx9RlFUDgNYV/nQf > uhjSonVxHdgWTFI6tk/m > =UXv/ > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:19:00 AM PST US From: Bud Yerly Subject: RE: Europa-List: oil Guys=2C Aeroshell Sport plus 4 is the Rotax approved oil we use in the States=2C wh ich is a semi-synthetic for use with AV gas. I get it from Lockwood for le ss than $10 a quart. It is quite good at suspending the lead. However=2C c an you get it over there? For unleaded fuel I still prefer Mobile One MX4T or now called Racing T. M y turbo responds well with it. Regards=2C Bud > Subject: Re: Europa-List: oil > From: ivor.phillips@ntlworld.com > Date: Fri=2C 14 Mar 2014 11:53:53 +0000 > To: europa-list@matronics.com > com> > > Hi Frans > Like you I use the VSX 4 T but now use the shell AX7. It the same oil wit h slight improvements supposedly =2C > BTW are you going to the Rotax meet at Wels this June ? > Regards > Ivor > > Sent from my iPad > > > On 14 Mar 2014=2C at 10:10=2C Frans Veldman wr ote: > > l> > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Hi=2C > > > > It is time for an oil change again. However=2C the oil I always used is > > no longer available. > > The oil I used was Shell Advance VSX 4T. This was a Rotax approved > > oil=2C suitable for leaded and unleaded fuel. There is a replacement fo r > > this oil=2C the Shell Advance AX7=2C but I'm not sure whether this is j ust > > a name change or a formula change. > > So=2C what kind of oil are the rest of us using? Any recommendations? > > Anyone who kan tell me whether the Advance AX7 is just a name change? > > > > Frans > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) > > > > iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJTItWWAAoJEC+zXxqs0ZzVbZgP/36Q+6ubWS+np6xDFEhrtHkl > > yBKuzpdBsZpHzvY4sJ+pvHCNZsVdto0Ke7Jf6jJqejVpcjHA/lncrlJkZ02mcJvf > > 7bkVQXT+1+6UMQ88PJP6B4xYofjJBVlw4huqU5kZnIumnYm3h2sfh3690S61lkJ2 > > XSLKLuR4PuMRcEiTrYi/d4Rt4Bk7lAkiAiZDbnkFKUOYg6I4qXeAVV1JStDA6sLM > > fcS5bW9Hj5EN8/zc/qIsKpDTuGqbHGYZISU4VBim45eqo6q+rGeLxXXlOeznLhYd > > m/j416/hhi2Wh9HJQ+8y5AMMM4tT9k1g4YY643UlICgcLjMCVtIVszAxx4RLk3eC > > eYxt0T5KfVHutF3avT7AmFOeijg3mzd8t47xgkFLYB/d8JF2lihXJgK/1fKAtlXP > > rDwm2N4F1Rmfn2UHm/3ktjslplpgZi1lnsaHtRFyHNgy5cMzHrMcHL5TNNfY5m1W > > fWFVoQde4UvabtuVm8Nj5V7uRb3Oqi1Iy+EyD3j7tUMBXHsaCy0YvUh3J2ephevX > > mqbJ+seOm3VzDzbAigUjoGrRvL6K75cnQ3se6c5MwG+EfVDkDF+CtyZRlHm/kXwx > > 7docGUm2K2Iwl6yE5Z7Yv9ccSnvsCroNsC2cjepbt7yjlJuVTx9RlFUDgNYV/nQf > > uhjSonVxHdgWTFI6tk/m > > =UXv/ > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:57:52 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: sealing fuel lines From: William Daniell Got it thanks. looks very neat. What wire does it use? Will William Daniell LONGPORT +57 310 295 0744 On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 10:57 PM, Robert Borger wrote: > William, > > I believe Graham was talking about this: > > http://www.aircraftspruce.com/pages/to/safetywiretools/clamptitetool.php > > I have one and it works surprisingly well where you have enough room to > maneuver the tool. > > The resulting clamp looks like this" > > > This is a double wrap. It can also be done as a single wrap. > > Blue skies & tailwinds, > Bob Borger > Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop (50 hrs). > Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP > 3705 Lynchburg Dr. > Corinth, TX 76208-5331 > Cel: 817-992-1117 > rlborger@mac.com > > On Mar 13, 2014, at 10:11 PM, William Daniell > wrote: > > Graham > can you remember what this tool called? > Will > > > William Daniell > LONGPORT > +57 310 295 0744 > > > On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 6:23 PM, GRAHAM SINGLETON < > grahamsingleton@btinternet.com> wrote: > >> Will >> Aircraft Spruce sell a very good tool for sealing hoses with locking >> wire. Much better than the Jubilee clips which are very hit and miss. >> Don't use sealant, too risky. >> Graham >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* William Daniell >> *To:* europa-list@matronics.com >> *Sent:* Sunday, 16 February 2014, 23:06 >> *Subject:* Europa-List: sealing fuel lines >> >> I am installing the fuel lines. >> >> Has anyone used any kind of sealant on hose joints? >> >> I am wondering whether the worm drive clips really seal the fuel lines >> >> Will >> >> >> William Daniell >> LONGPORT >> +57 310 295 0744 >> >> *ank" href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List ">http://www.mat "nof ollow" target="_blank" href="http://forums.matronics.com/ ">http://f ========= >> >> * >> >> >> >> * >> >> arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List >> tp://forums.matronics.com >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> >> * >> >> > * > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List ">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-L ist > href="http://forums.matronics.com/ ">http ://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution ">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > * > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:41:14 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: sealing fuel lines From: Robert Borger Will, It can use any size safety wire. Heavier might be less likely to cut into the hose. The instructions are out in the hanger. Next trip to hanger I=92ll bring them home to scan and provide to list. The video on the ACS website says any kind of wire will do. Watch the video it is excellent. http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/topages/clamptitetoolbronze.php is the tool I have in my kit. I bought it at KOSH 10 years ago. Blue skies & tailwinds, Bob Borger Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop (50 hrs). Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208-5331 Cel: 817-992-1117 rlborger@mac.com On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:57 AM, William Daniell wrote: Got it thanks. looks very neat. What wire does it use? Will William Daniell LONGPORT +57 310 295 0744 On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 10:57 PM, Robert Borger wrote: William, I believe Graham was talking about this: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/pages/to/safetywiretools/clamptitetool.php I have one and it works surprisingly well where you have enough room to maneuver the tool. The resulting clamp looks like this=94 This is a double wrap. It can also be done as a single wrap. Blue skies & tailwinds, Bob Borger Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop (50 hrs). Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208-5331 Cel: 817-992-1117 rlborger@mac.com On Mar 13, 2014, at 10:11 PM, William Daniell wrote: Graham can you remember what this tool called? Will William Daniell LONGPORT +57 310 295 0744 On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 6:23 PM, GRAHAM SINGLETON wrote: Will Aircraft Spruce sell a very good tool for sealing hoses with locking wire. Much better than the Jubilee clips which are very hit and miss. Don't use sealant, too risky. Graham From: William Daniell Sent: Sunday, 16 February 2014, 23:06 Subject: Europa-List: sealing fuel lines I am installing the fuel lines. Has anyone used any kind of sealant on hose joints? I am wondering whether the worm drive clips really seal the fuel lines Will William Daniell LONGPORT +57 310 295 0744 ank" href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List">http://www.mat"nof ollow" target="_blank" href="http://forums.matronics.com/">http://f========== arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List">http://www.matroni cs.com/Navigator?Europa-List href="http://forums.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/co ntribution ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:44:00 AM PST US From: GRAHAM SINGLETON Subject: Re: Europa-List: sealing fuel lines William=0Ause stainless locking wire, (soft and not too thin, ) You might f ind the size specified by the=0Atool supplier/maker=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A ________________________________=0A From: William Daniell =0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Friday, 14 March 2014 , 13:57=0ASubject: Re: Europa-List: sealing fuel lines=0A =0A=0A=0AGot it t hanks. =C2-looks very neat.=0A=0AWhat wire does it use?=0A=0AWill=0A=0A =0AWilliam Daniell=0ALONGPORT=0A=0A+57 310 295 0744=0A=0A=0AOn Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 10:57 PM, Robert Borger wrote:=0A=0AWilliam,=0A >=0A>=0A>I believe Graham was talking about this:=0A>=0A>=0A>http://www.air craftspruce.com/pages/to/safetywiretools/clamptitetool.php=0A>=0A>=0A>I hav e one and it works surprisingly well where you have enough room to maneuver the tool.=0A>=0A>=0A>The resulting clamp looks like this=9D=0A>=0A> =0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>This is a double wrap. =C2-It can also be done as a s ingle wrap.=0A>=0A>=0A>Blue skies & tailwinds,=0A>Bob Borger=0A>Europa XS T ri, Rotax 914,=C2-Airmaster C/S Prop (50 hrs).=0A>Little Toot Sport Bipla ne,=C2-Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320=C2-EXP=0A>3705 Lynchburg Dr.=0A>Co rinth, TX =C2-76208-5331=0A>Cel: 817-992-1117=0A>rlborger@mac.com=0A>=0A> =0A>On Mar 13, 2014, at 10:11 PM, William Daniell wrote:=0A>=0A>Graham=0A>can you remember what this tool called?=0A>Wil l=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>William Daniell=0A>LONGPORT=0A>=0A>+57 310 295 0744=0A >=0A>=0A>On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 6:23 PM, GRAHAM SINGLETON wrote:=0A>=0A>Will=0A>>Aircraft Spruce sell a very good to ol for sealing hoses with locking wire. Much better than the Jubilee clips which are very hit and miss.=0A>>Don't use sealant, too risky.=0A>>Graham =0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>________________________________=0A>> From: Willia m Daniell =0A>>To: europa-list@matronics.com =0A>>Sent: Sunday, 16 February 2014, 23:06=0A>>Subject: Europa-List: sealin g fuel lines=0A>> =0A>>=0A>>=0A>>I am installing the fuel lines.=0A>>=0A>> =0A>>Has anyone used any kind of sealant on hose joints? =C2-=0A>>=0A>> =0A>>I am wondering whether the worm drive clips really seal the fuel lines =0A>>=0A>>=0A>>Will=C2-=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>William Daniell=0A>>LONGP ORT=0A>>=0A>>+57 310 295 0744=0A>>ank" href="http://www.matronics.com/Nav igator?Europa-List">http://www.mat"nofollow" target="_blank" href="http ://forums.matronics.com/">http://f========== =0A>>=0A>> =0A>>arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List tp://f orums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution =0A>=0A>h ref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List">http://www.matronics .com/Navigator?Europa-List href="http://forums.matronics.com/">http://for ums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www .matronics.com/contribution =0A> ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:08:15 AM PST US From: Christoph Both Subject: Re: Europa-List: recommended oil change intervals, exclusive MOGAS Hi, I am using the new AEROSHELL SPORT Plus 4, a semi-synthetic blend approved by Rotax available to us in the US and Canada. I am interested from membership if anyone is going with the ROTAX recommended 100 hour interval change for this or any similar semi-synthetic oils? This would be for exclusive Mogas use - no LL100! I used it 25 hours for initial new engine run (912ULS), I plan the next change at 75 hrs (100TT) to flush out more debris and then go for 100 hr intervals. Christoph Both Classic #223, 70+hrs Wolfville, Nova Scotia Canada On 14-03-14 7:10 AM, "Frans Veldman" wrote: > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >Hi, > >It is time for an oil change again. However, the oil I always used is >no longer available. >The oil I used was Shell Advance VSX 4T. This was a Rotax approved >oil, suitable for leaded and unleaded fuel. There is a replacement for >this oil, the Shell Advance AX7, but I'm not sure whether this is just >a name change or a formula change. >So, what kind of oil are the rest of us using? Any recommendations? >Anyone who kan tell me whether the Advance AX7 is just a name change? > >Frans > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) > >iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJTItWWAAoJEC+zXxqs0ZzVbZgP/36Q+6ubWS+np6xDFEhrtHkl >yBKuzpdBsZpHzvY4sJ+pvHCNZsVdto0Ke7Jf6jJqejVpcjHA/lncrlJkZ02mcJvf >7bkVQXT+1+6UMQ88PJP6B4xYofjJBVlw4huqU5kZnIumnYm3h2sfh3690S61lkJ2 >XSLKLuR4PuMRcEiTrYi/d4Rt4Bk7lAkiAiZDbnkFKUOYg6I4qXeAVV1JStDA6sLM >fcS5bW9Hj5EN8/zc/qIsKpDTuGqbHGYZISU4VBim45eqo6q+rGeLxXXlOeznLhYd >m/j416/hhi2Wh9HJQ+8y5AMMM4tT9k1g4YY643UlICgcLjMCVtIVszAxx4RLk3eC >eYxt0T5KfVHutF3avT7AmFOeijg3mzd8t47xgkFLYB/d8JF2lihXJgK/1fKAtlXP >rDwm2N4F1Rmfn2UHm/3ktjslplpgZi1lnsaHtRFyHNgy5cMzHrMcHL5TNNfY5m1W >fWFVoQde4UvabtuVm8Nj5V7uRb3Oqi1Iy+EyD3j7tUMBXHsaCy0YvUh3J2ephevX >mqbJ+seOm3VzDzbAigUjoGrRvL6K75cnQ3se6c5MwG+EfVDkDF+CtyZRlHm/kXwx >7docGUm2K2Iwl6yE5Z7Yv9ccSnvsCroNsC2cjepbt7yjlJuVTx9RlFUDgNYV/nQf >uhjSonVxHdgWTFI6tk/m >=UXv/ >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:11:24 AM PST US From: "Paul McAllister" Subject: RE: Europa-List: recommended oil change intervals, exclusive MOGAS Hello everyone, At about 800 hours my 914 developed a crank case leak from fretting. I sent the engine into Leading Edge and they split the case and fortunately they were able to repair the fretting and successfully seal it. While the engine was apart they cleaned up and it was noted that there was some "oil flashing" on the piston skirts. They recommend for 914's to only use a full synthetic as they tend to run a bit hotter. Since then I have used Mobile 1 and unleaded fuel. If I make a cross country trip and can only find 100LL then I do an oil change as soon as I return. Paul ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 01:03:56 PM PST US From: Frans Veldman Subject: Re: Europa-List: oil -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 03/14/2014 12:53 PM, Ivor Phillips wrote: > > > Hi Frans Like you I use the VSX 4 T but now use the shell AX7. It is a bit confusing. I have seen the AX7 advertised as being fully synthetic, whereas the VSX was half synthetic. Full synthetic oils have difficulties with the lead content of AVGAS and are therefore unsuitable for my purpose. My supplier sent me Advance Ultra which is supposed to be superior (and much more expensive) but in the Rotax service bulletin it was indicated as unsuitable for use with AVGAS fuel. So, this is why I'm concerned about the successor AX7 oil. If you can confirm that it is indeed basically the same as the predecessor VSX and still half synthetic I'm happy to use it. > BTW are you going to the Rotax meet at Wels this June ? That is unlikely. I even didn't know about this meeting but I have quite a busy schedule this saison. I will probably see you at one of the other events. BTW the place you recommended to go to was Scilly was it? Best regards, Frans > Regards Ivor > > Sent from my iPad > >> On 14 Mar 2014, at 10:10, Frans Veldman >> wrote: >> >> >> > Hi, > > It is time for an oil change again. However, the oil I always used > is no longer available. The oil I used was Shell Advance VSX 4T. > This was a Rotax approved oil, suitable for leaded and unleaded > fuel. There is a replacement for this oil, the Shell Advance AX7, > but I'm not sure whether this is just a name change or a formula > change. So, what kind of oil are the rest of us using? Any > recommendations? Anyone who kan tell me whether the Advance AX7 is > just a name change? > > Frans > >> >> >> >> > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJTI19qAAoJEC+zXxqs0ZzVt+gQAMbxwwEEVa5YWfStQaiTjeA/ sEkduMu7QkGFLuVI59I6aSSHETpKEku1xFQgeMCmVWnenvgqTVDBfNcgSBjD/3Wz QwdsoMxC3krpoO2RzQxfsNFMwtkkjfHIRsv/gbhzjaLjcBN/xY2dcVPtagK8n1RX SbK3bwZjjyft6Io1KkLc1TpGeWI2gpDyOznWTAL1+R+lPRSKZjaTlTmVgAjvtBUe CvYBzbZDPRSW0W6KkeljUoNBrOaeduOWexVhzzBq6c+Jk8AMb+AMoKzy87MwecS8 M6kS1x3HIvjOR5RoMOu3KjcE+iaPRL/0iOINX7s0zOtM75Toi7wUyEFuxsav+ElY fQokqlconLjX6H0GZVqv4ABFh8XgslnMvyrgT7es80qx5zbxXzykzubgY7YxtCaq x2RZcoWPL6v+FgO7qJMx+lREudMQCXWP4pCDnP0fQVaq5Vupz+LCMjOEaIu86IpJ CanbHJTPMW6WlspPWi9fVNC3PX7S1fEMsDe7F+O4NvskdBVHWMsaVp1rFKhLNdk1 uyQBpAVb+Hwo+7FHlv37YrPWOqV3JLqstzeBlqvJeoC/7mwzG4srO9koly1nYbdj uf7AR8yEzsC1l+32X8Qz016Vt6YJmA9veu9e3TilgiUdMv+HS0smsXub/4f4whje +d5AMaipofoPgjH8xYRJ =TS+2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 01:32:32 PM PST US From: Fred Klein Subject: Re: Europa-List: sealing fuel lines Bob=85thanks so much for bringing this to my attention=85excellent=85Fred On Mar 14, 2014, at 7:40 AM, Robert Borger wrote: > The video on the ACS website says any kind of wire will do. Watch the video it is excellent. > > http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/topages/clamptitetoolbronze.php is the tool I have in my kit. I bought it at KOSH 10 years ago. > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 02:28:04 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: oil From: Ivor Phillips Sent from my iPad Hi Frans As you can see from the labels it a semi synthetic oil and it's previous nam e was vsx 4 Yes the Scillies Isle is a great place to visit, St Mary's is the main islan d with a interesting approach, you will need PPR and the airfield is shut on Sunday, bob and me flew into helgoland last year on your recommendation and really h ad a good time Will try for a revisit some time soon, Regards Ivor > On 14 Mar 2014, at 19:58, Frans Veldman wrote: > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > >> On 03/14/2014 12:53 PM, Ivor Phillips wrote: >> >> >> Hi Frans Like you I use the VSX 4 T but now use the shell AX7. > > It is a bit confusing. I have seen the AX7 advertised as being fully > synthetic, whereas the VSX was half synthetic. Full synthetic oils > have difficulties with the lead content of AVGAS and are therefore > unsuitable for my purpose. My supplier sent me Advance Ultra which is > supposed to be superior (and much more expensive) but in the Rotax > service bulletin it was indicated as unsuitable for use with AVGAS fuel. > So, this is why I'm concerned about the successor AX7 oil. If you can > confirm that it is indeed basically the same as the predecessor VSX > and still half synthetic I'm happy to use it. > >> BTW are you going to the Rotax meet at Wels this June ? > > That is unlikely. I even didn't know about this meeting but I have > quite a busy schedule this saison. > > I will probably see you at one of the other events. > BTW the place you recommended to go to was Scilly was it? > > Best regards, > Frans > > > >> Regards Ivor >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On 14 Mar 2014, at 10:10, Frans Veldman >>> wrote: >>> >>> >> Hi, >> >> It is time for an oil change again. However, the oil I always used >> is no longer available. The oil I used was Shell Advance VSX 4T. >> This was a Rotax approved oil, suitable for leaded and unleaded >> fuel. There is a replacement for this oil, the Shell Advance AX7, >> but I'm not sure whether this is just a name change or a formula >> change. So, what kind of oil are the rest of us using? Any >> recommendations? Anyone who kan tell me whether the Advance AX7 is >> just a name change? >> >> Frans >> > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) > > iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJTI19qAAoJEC+zXxqs0ZzVt+gQAMbxwwEEVa5YWfStQaiTjeA/ > sEkduMu7QkGFLuVI59I6aSSHETpKEku1xFQgeMCmVWnenvgqTVDBfNcgSBjD/3Wz > QwdsoMxC3krpoO2RzQxfsNFMwtkkjfHIRsv/gbhzjaLjcBN/xY2dcVPtagK8n1RX > SbK3bwZjjyft6Io1KkLc1TpGeWI2gpDyOznWTAL1+R+lPRSKZjaTlTmVgAjvtBUe > CvYBzbZDPRSW0W6KkeljUoNBrOaeduOWexVhzzBq6c+Jk8AMb+AMoKzy87MwecS8 > M6kS1x3HIvjOR5RoMOu3KjcE+iaPRL/0iOINX7s0zOtM75Toi7wUyEFuxsav+ElY > fQokqlconLjX6H0GZVqv4ABFh8XgslnMvyrgT7es80qx5zbxXzykzubgY7YxtCaq > x2RZcoWPL6v+FgO7qJMx+lREudMQCXWP4pCDnP0fQVaq5Vupz+LCMjOEaIu86IpJ > CanbHJTPMW6WlspPWi9fVNC3PX7S1fEMsDe7F+O4NvskdBVHWMsaVp1rFKhLNdk1 > uyQBpAVb+Hwo+7FHlv37YrPWOqV3JLqstzeBlqvJeoC/7mwzG4srO9koly1nYbdj > uf7AR8yEzsC1l+32X8Qz016Vt6YJmA9veu9e3TilgiUdMv+HS0smsXub/4f4whje > +d5AMaipofoPgjH8xYRJ > =TS+2 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > > >



________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 06:59:42 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: oil From: Kingsley Hurst > For unleaded fuel I still prefer Mobile One MX4T or now called Racing T. M y turbo responds well with it. Bud, Could you kindly let me know what you mean by 'turbo responding well with it ' please. ie, the Mobil oil as opposed to the Shell Sport Plus 4 that I am u sing. Cheers Kingsley in Oz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.