---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 03/26/14: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:38 AM - Re: XS Fuel Tank Kiwi Mod (tennant) 2. 05:09 AM - Re: Re: XS Fuel Tank Kiwi Mod (Bud Yerly) 3. 07:09 AM - Ethanol Free MoGas (Robert Borger) 4. 07:37 AM - Re: Strobe system (trevpond@aol.com) 5. 08:47 AM - damping grease definitive answer (absolutely the last definite answer until the next definitive answer) (William Daniell) 6. 09:31 AM - Re: Re: XS Fuel Tank Kiwi Mod (Peter Zutrauen) 7. 10:09 AM - Re: Re: XS Fuel Tank Kiwi Mod (Bud Yerly) 8. 05:25 PM - Re: Re: XS Fuel Tank Kiwi Mod (Andrew Sarangan) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:38:51 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: XS Fuel Tank Kiwi Mod From: "tennant" John, Perhaps I am being a bit old today, but why should you need a pressure test on a container that is free to ambient pressure? -------- Barry Tennant D-EHBT At EDLM - Germany Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=421050#421050 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:09:24 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: XS Fuel Tank Kiwi Mod From: Bud Yerly Please use extreme caution. Light Aircraft fuel tanks do not get pressurized more than a few inches of water pressure as they are vented. The tank must be filled and load teste d to a minimum of a/c limit times 1.5. It must hold shape when tested. Regards Bud Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID tennant wrote: John=2C Perhaps I am being a bit old today=2C but why should you need a pressure te st on a container that is free to ambient pressure? -------- Barry Tennant D-EHBT At EDLM - Germany Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=421050#421050 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:09:40 AM PST US From: Robert Borger Subject: Europa-List: Ethanol Free MoGas Friends, I found this site which lists service stations in the USA & Canada offering ethanol free MoGas. http://pure-gas.org/ Select your state or province and check for availability in your area. Good luck! So far, I haven't found a source in my locality :-( Blue skies & tailwinds, Bob Borger Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914 w/ Intercooler & Airmaster C/S Prop Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming AEIO-320 EXP 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208-5331 H: 940-497-2123 C: 817-992-1117 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:37:49 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Strobe system From: trevpond@aol.com Frank, I fitted Aeroleds wingtip strobes to mine and they fit straight onto the Wh elen mounts. Have a look at their Web Site. They are beautifully made and are available as TSO'd or E xperimental. regards Trev G-LINN -----Original Message----- From: richard Sent: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 17:31 Subject: Re: Europa-List: Strobe system Hi Frank First off follow the old saying "Keep it simple", why four? I have been flying my europa for 18 months and have not felt the need to increase the number of xenon strobe lights from the one I have on the tail fin. Having stated that, as I fly out of a very busy airfield with only an information service I think I will fit landing light at some time, not so as to see at night but to show a clear intention that I am planning to land. A warning though we have landing lights fitted on to our Euro Fox glider tu g and all the pilots use them on approach, they were changed recently for led s and they were found to emit a lot of RF noise which required one of the clubs electronic wizards fix. Best of luck Richard -----Original Message----- From: spcialeffects Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 8:55 AM Subject: Europa-List: Strobe system Looking round for a strobe system and well done lots of reading, looked at lots of different systems and am still confused. I want 4 strobes, 1 per wing, fin and belly. I wanted to use an LED system and found X1100 Hide-A-LED Modules which if I have understood correctly can be linked up with up to 20 led's and doesn't require a big power pack as this is built into each of the leads coming from the LED itself including multi flash option and they boast 1100+ lumens BUT I have read some reviews from people who bought them and they aren't impressed saying they are not all that during daylight and not that bright. Then I thought well just stick to the normal xenon tube style. Once again building an aircraft is most defiantly a learning curve AND a very personal thing so my questions are what are peopl e using, xenon or led, do you wish you had the other? If you were or are stil l building what advice would you have given yourself in regards to wiring, positioning (fin or fuselage)! . Thanks one and all, Frank . Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=420655#420655 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:47:50 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: damping grease definitive answer (absolutely the last definite answer until the next definitive answer) From: William Daniell Tom Madden 9:34 AM (1 hour ago) to me Hi Will, Based on your note, Nye is recommending the 868. The cost is as follows. 50 gram tube: $49.95 100 gram tube: $69.95 I will cancel your order for the 374A. Can you also please post a revision on the web site. I actually had another customer order the 374A based on your posting. I will contact him with this new development. Thanks, Tom Madden TAI Lubricants PO Box 1579 Hockessin, DE 19707 USA (302) 326-0200 (302) 326-0400 fax nyoil@aol.com www.lubekits.com William Daniell LONGPORT +57 310 295 0744 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:31:40 AM PST US From: Peter Zutrauen Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: XS Fuel Tank Kiwi Mod I am surprised to hear that the stock tank keeps it's shape under 6g's of load. Was this test actually done when the kit was originally tested and approved in Britain? Cheers, Pete A239 On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 8:07 AM, Bud Yerly wrote: > Please use extreme caution. > Light Aircraft fuel tanks do not get pressurized more than a few inches of > water pressure as they are vented. The tank must be filled and load tested > to a minimum of a/c limit times 1.5. It must hold shape when tested. > > Regards > Bud > > *Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID* > > > tennant wrote: > > barrington.tennant@gmail.com> > > John, > > Perhaps I am being a bit old today, but why should you need a pressure > test on a container that is free to ambient pressure? > > -------- > Barry Tennant > D-EHBT > At EDLM - Germany > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=421050#421050 > > > ========== > ; - The Europa-List Email Forum - > r?Europa-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List > ========== > ; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - > ://forums.matronics.com > ========== > ; - List Contribution Web Site - > ; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > tion">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > > * > > > * > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:09:42 AM PST US From: "Bud Yerly" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: XS Fuel Tank Kiwi Mod Pete, The tank support holders on the front are a part of that testing. The original tank bulged pretty well. The new tank is stiffer, but you've heard my rant on tank support. Bud ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Zutrauen To: europa-list Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 12:30 PM Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: XS Fuel Tank Kiwi Mod I am surprised to hear that the stock tank keeps it's shape under 6g's of load. Was this test actually done when the kit was originally tested and approved in Britain? Cheers, Pete A239 On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 8:07 AM, Bud Yerly > wrote: Please use extreme caution. Light Aircraft fuel tanks do not get pressurized more than a few inches of water pressure as they are vented. The tank must be filled and load tested to a minimum of a/c limit times 1.5. It must hold shape when tested. Regards Bud Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID tennant > wrote: > John, Perhaps I am being a bit old today, but why should you need a pressure test on a container that is free to ambient pressure? -------- Barry Tennant D-EHBT At EDLM - Germany Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=421050#421050 ========== ; - The Europa-List Email Forum - r?Europa-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List ========== ; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - ://forums.matronics.com ========== ; - List Contribution Web Site - ; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. tion">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ========== arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:25:33 PM PST US From: Andrew Sarangan Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: XS Fuel Tank Kiwi Mod Just to play devil's advocate, whats the attraction of an aluminum fuel tank over a plastic one, or a fiberglass one? I am familiar with the problems with Europa's plastic tank, but that does not mean aluminum is better. You are trading off one problem for another. On that thought, can a tank be 3D printed? On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Bud Yerly wrote: > Pete, > The tank support holders on the front are a part of that testing. The > original tank bulged pretty well. The new tank is stiffer, but you've heard > my rant on tank support. > Bud > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Peter Zutrauen > To: europa-list > Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 12:30 PM > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: XS Fuel Tank Kiwi Mod > > I am surprised to hear that the stock tank keeps it's shape under 6g's of > load. Was this test actually done when the kit was originally tested and > approved in Britain? > > Cheers, > Pete > A239 > > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 8:07 AM, Bud Yerly wrote: >> >> Please use extreme caution. >> Light Aircraft fuel tanks do not get pressurized more than a few inches of >> water pressure as they are vented. The tank must be filled and load tested >> to a minimum of a/c limit times 1.5. It must hold shape when tested. >> >> Regards >> Bud >> >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID >> >> >> tennant wrote: >> >> >> >> John, >> >> Perhaps I am being a bit old today, but why should you need a pressure >> test on a container that is free to ambient pressure? >> >> -------- >> Barry Tennant >> D-EHBT >> At EDLM - Germany >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=421050#421050 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ========== >> ; - The Europa-List Email Forum - >> r?Europa-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List >> ========== >> ; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - >> ://forums.matronics.com >> ========== >> ; - List Contribution Web Site - >> ; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> tion">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> ========== >> >> >> >> >> >> arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List >> tp://forums.matronics.com >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List">http://www.matronhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.