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1. 12:16 AM - Re: Itching to get to Ireland (Ivor Phillips)
2. 12:53 AM - Re: Itching to get to Ireland (Rowland Carson)
3. 01:42 AM - Re: Belgian airspace (Roland)
4. 03:09 AM - Re: Belgian airspace (Frans Veldman)
5. 06:50 AM - Re: Belgian airspace (David Joyce)
6. 07:53 AM - Re: Itching to get to Ireland (David Joyce)
7. 12:33 PM - Re: Belgian airspace (david park)
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| Subject: | Re: Itching to get to Ireland |
Newcastle co wicklow,
http://www.einc.ie
Great place for a visit,usually have a courtesy car if pre booked, but not far
to greystones where you can pick up the Dart into Dublin ,
Another good airfield if it's still open is Weston to the west of Dublin, the VFR
route is overhead the city following the river Liffey, but not as easy to get
back to the city by public transport,
Regards
Ivor phillips
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> On 30 Mar 2014, at 21:49, "graeme bird" <graeme@gdbmk.co.uk> wrote:
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> Thinking of trips for this year, and must get to Ireland from Beds UK, any recommendations
for a day trip, friendly field near something interesting? I gather
I need to file a GAR form, and guess I have to land at a designated 'port'.
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| Subject: | Re: Itching to get to Ireland |
On 30 Mar 2014, at 21:49, graeme bird wrote:
> Thinking of trips for this year, and must get to Ireland from Beds UK, any recommendations
for a day trip, friendly field near something interesting? I gather
I need to file a GAR form, and guess I have to land at a designated 'port'.
Graeme - when I went with the 2008 Europa Club trip to Ireland in Tim Houlihan's
G-BZTH, Kilrush (EIKH) was friendly although it we found it quicker to get a
lift to the nearest petrol station with a jerry-can than wait for the pumps to
open! I think Tim has also done a day trip to Kilkenny (EIKK) where he was made
welcome.
in friendship
Rowland
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| Subject: | Re: Belgian airspace |
Irrespective of the permission requirement (most fly without as far as I know)
the transition is quite easy, especially when you are in contact with Brussels
Information.
You can either fly (roughly) via Calais, Kortrijk, between the Brussels and Antwerp
CTR below 1500 ft to Venlo/Maastricht (what I did) and you are clear of restricted
airspaces. Last weekend we were at Manston and one crew got a DCT from
Oostende (over Brussels!) to Aachen EDKA at FL 100. At weekends you can also
expect many of the restricted areas to be not active.
Nontheless you should be aware of the restricted airspaces and when in doubt ask
for clearance.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=421336#421336
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| Subject: | Re: Belgian airspace |
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On 03/31/2014 01:12 AM, david park wrote:
> Anyone with experience of transiting Belgian airspace? With or
> without notification?
Lots of experience here.
Just coast in to the VOR south of Oostende, fly east of the airfield,
and proceed up from there. I cross the Belgian airspace multiple times
per year and occasionally even land there, but never have notified or
paid anyone for it. The Belgian ATC's are friendly and cooperative.
Frans
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| Subject: | Re: Belgian airspace |
Dave, I have flown along the Belgian coast at least 20
times with others or solo and there has never been a
problem. This infers that ATC quite rightly have no
interest in querying whether you have all your paperwork
in place and that you will probably get away with it.
However if you have an incident the Belgian CAA will come
into play and would no doubt hold it against you that you
have not asked their permission and paid 88 euros for the
privilege. You pays your money (or not!) and takes your
choice! Personally having refused to pay the last demand
(for a brief visit to Waterloo on a Charity flight) I now
avoid Belgian airspace altogether.
Regards, David Joyce
On Mon, 31 Mar 2014 00:12:54 +0100
david park <dpark748@me.com> wrote:
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> Anyone with experience of transiting Belgian airspace?
>With or without notification?
> IE. coast hugging up to Netherlands.?
> Dave Park G -LDVO
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| Subject: | Re: Itching to get to Ireland |
Graeme, I have thoroughly enjoyed visiting Eglinton/Derry.
Pleasant people, good restaurant, spectacular coast
nearby, Giants Causeway to visit on the way there. Also
enjoyed Newtownards for easy access to Belfast. Had looked
forward to Weston for trip into Dublin, but weather
intervened. Have visited Cork, but do NOT recommend it.
(expensive & inconvenient). If you are prepared to make it
more than a day I strongly recommend Galway and excursions
out to the Arran Islands, looking at Alcock & Brown's
landing site, etc.
You certainly need a GAR form which needs to go
to
customs and to Police. The requirements are complex and I
suggest looking at:
www.gov.uk/government/publications/general-aviation-operators-and-pilots-notification-of-flights
where you will find latest regs. Regards, David Joyce,
G-XSDJ
On Sun, 30 Mar 2014 13:49:46 -0700
"graeme bird" <graeme@gdbmk.co.uk> wrote:
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> Thinking of trips for this year, and must get to Ireland
>from Beds UK, any recommendations for a day trip, friendly
>field near something interesting? I gather I need to file
>a GAR form, and guess I have to land at a designated
>'port'.
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> Graeme
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> Newby: 95 hours 18 months g(at)gdbmk.co.uk
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| Subject: | Re: Belgian airspace |
Thanks Frans,
Hoping to go to Borglanda at end of May.
Dave
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> On 31 Mar 2014, at 11:01, Frans Veldman <frans@privatepilots.nl> wrote:
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>> On 03/31/2014 01:12 AM, david park wrote:
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>> Anyone with experience of transiting Belgian airspace? With or
>> without notification?
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> Lots of experience here.
> Just coast in to the VOR south of Oostende, fly east of the airfield,
> and proceed up from there. I cross the Belgian airspace multiple times
> per year and occasionally even land there, but never have notified or
> paid anyone for it. The Belgian ATC's are friendly and cooperative.
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> Frans
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