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1. 03:48 AM - Latest Edict from The CAA ref charity flights........ (Bob Harrison)
2. 07:36 AM - Twitter/facebook ()
3. 08:40 AM - Re: facebook or twitter (Frans Veldman)
4. 09:17 AM - Re: Re: Noisy Comm Radio (Frans Veldman)
5. 09:30 AM - Re: facebook or twitter (Ivor Phillips)
6. 10:08 AM - Re: facebook or twitter (goff)
7. 12:39 PM - Re: facebook or twitter (Rowland Carson)
8. 12:47 PM - Re: facebook or twitter (Timward)
9. 12:47 PM - Re: facebook or twitter (Andrew Sarangan)
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Subject: | Latest Edict from The CAA ref charity flights........ |
Hi! All,
I thought we would be due to some common sense revelations from big brother
on the questions of charity flights for Permit To Fly Aircraft but I should
have thought otherwise! "Case by case basis rules"!
7 The Annexes do NOT provide for the carriage of passengers on charity
flights in:
a. Powered aircraft which do not hold a valid Certificate of Airworthiness
(a Permit to Fly is not acceptable);
b. powered aeroplanes from unlicensed aerodromes;
c. gliders that do not hold a valid Certificate of Airworthiness unless the
airworthiness of the glider has been established to the
satisfaction of the BGA;
d. hang gliders, paragliders and microlights, including powered parachutes.
Specific requests will be considered by the CAA before a decision is made,
on a case by case basis
Regards
Bob Harrison
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Subject: | Twitter/facebook |
Cheers,
Having read about the manipulation of data on both of these, and their
inherent limitations, I will not "sign into, subscribe or join" either of
them - but will continue to support the Europalist as manfully constructed
by Matt Dralle.
The only thing to change is underwear.
Ferg C-FFGG
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Subject: | Re: facebook or twitter |
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On 05/06/2014 07:50 PM, g-fizy wrote:
>
> Can i just throw a thought out to you all ,should we move to
> facebook or twitter ,, I am not a big fan of this old style forum
> ,,perhaps we could bring this up at the AGM :-)
Hell no! I don't and won't have a facebook account. They are nor
interested in you, nor in airplanes. They are only interested in money
in whatever way they can get it. They sell everything a healthy
individual would consider "private". Have seen the "like-buttons"
everywhere? They act as little spies: once you are in their system
they can track whatever website you visit, what your interests are, etc.
Have noticed their stock value? Divide that by the amount of users and
you will find that each individual user is worth about 150 US$. That
is what some unknown parties pay them to obtain all your data and
statistics.
George Orwell was an optimist, only about 30 years too early.
I don't care if individuals give away their privacy to facebook to let
them collect 150 US$ for it, but I don't want to be part of this
system. That means that once this forum is moved to facebook it will
be without me.
Frans
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Subject: | Re: Noisy Comm Radio |
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On 05/06/2014 12:50 PM, Troy Maynor wrote:
> <wingnut54@charter.net>
>
> I tried all the things suggested except the SWR check...
Well this is important. While you can get away for a light bulb with
just checking for proper connection and shorts, for RF things are more
complicated and not measurable with standard multimeters. You can't
measure moisture that has creeped into the coax spongy insulation, but
it would ruin the SWR and cause the coax to act as an antenna rather
than just a transporter. The same with kinks or other damages. Or
metal objects that are just a bit too close to the antenna and causing
the antenna to refuse to radiate and instead bouncing the energy back
into the coax cable.
Bottomline is that your problem looks like an SWR problem and if you
don't measure this, you won't get nearer to a solution.
> I am planning to replace the RG58 with RG400 from the radio rack to
> the Bob Archer antenna on the port bulkhead aft.
RG400 is a waste of money so is the Bob Archer antenna. Just stick to
the RG58 and a standard dipole antenna. Fancy cables are intended for
losless transmission of frequencies in the GHz range over longer
distances, neither property is valid for your aircraft. For aircraft
purposes, nothing beats the good old dipole antenna (unless there is
not enough space for it but luckily in our Europa's a dipole fits just
fine in the sternpost and this is also the maximum distance away from
our sensitive equipment in the cockpit). No antenna can produce "gain"
without taking energy away from certain directions. But in your
airplane you don't want to favour certain bearings at the cost of
other bearings so a dipole is the ultimate radiator for your ship.
Think of a radiator as a light bulb. Sure there are lenses and
reflectors and you can produce "gain" with it, but is this really what
you want in an airplane?
> So my questions now are: 1. Should I put ferrite torroids on both
> my electric attitude ind. and turn coord. power wires?
Probably not. These devices were designed for use in an airplane, and
virtually every airplane has a radio. It is unlikely the manufacturer
of your attitude indicator has "forgotten" to incorporate ferrite
torroids in their cables or even specs. If your system works as
intended, torroids are not needed anywhere else than on the end of
your coax cable. (They were included in the Europa radio plan to adapt
the asymmetric coax cable to the symmetric dipole).
> 2. Should I run a separate ground wire from the radio to the
> battery itself.
No. With a properly working antenna no RF is transported than via the
coax cable. The ground wire will only transport DC. But of course, if
your antenna (or the cable connecting it to your radio) is
malfunctioning the RF energy is desparate to find a way out and will
radiate over the ground wire, causing all kinds of interesting effects
in adjacent equipment which is now fed by RF rather than by DC.
> 3. The Sigtronics intercom wires weren't shielded. Do they need to
> be wrapped up in some kind of shield foil or braid?
Consult their manual. These things are designed for use in an airplane
with radio's. If the manufacturer doesn't specify this, it should not
be needed in a properly working system.
> I am also trying to find a new 90 degree coax fitting that fits the
> ICOM rack.
This rings bells. Why do you need a new one? Or did you bend the coax
instead? You are probably not aware, but the distance between the
center of the coax and the outer shield is a crucial property of the
cable. Bend the cable and the center conductor will get closer to the
outer shield, ruining the impedance of the cable and causing all sorts
of problems.
One other test you can do: obtain a dummy load. This is just a fairly
big resistor of 50 ohms (It needs to be manufactured for RF use, other
resistors are just a wire coiled up but this is not suitable for RF).
It converts the radio energy into heat instead of radiation. Connect
it directly to the radio and transmit. Most likely the problem is
gone. Connect it to your coax cable instead of the antenna and test
again. Is the problem still gone? Then your antenna is the problem.
Does the problem reoccur? Then the cable is faulty.
Succes with troubleshooting!
Frans
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Subject: | Re: facebook or twitter |
Exactly has Frans put it! You wouldn't see me using face book or twitter,
Emails may now be old hat but they work for me and with a decent search engine
for past topics
Much more user friendly IMO
Ivor Phillips
Sent from my iPad
> On 7 May 2014, at 16:21, Frans Veldman <frans@privatepilots.nl> wrote:
>
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>> On 05/06/2014 07:50 PM, g-fizy wrote:
>>
>> Can i just throw a thought out to you all ,should we move to
>> facebook or twitter ,, I am not a big fan of this old style forum
>> ,,perhaps we could bring this up at the AGM :-)
>
> Hell no! I don't and won't have a facebook account. They are nor
> interested in you, nor in airplanes. They are only interested in money
> in whatever way they can get it. They sell everything a healthy
> individual would consider "private". Have seen the "like-buttons"
> everywhere? They act as little spies: once you are in their system
> they can track whatever website you visit, what your interests are, etc.
> Have noticed their stock value? Divide that by the amount of users and
> you will find that each individual user is worth about 150 US$. That
> is what some unknown parties pay them to obtain all your data and
> statistics.
> George Orwell was an optimist, only about 30 years too early.
>
> I don't care if individuals give away their privacy to facebook to let
> them collect 150 US$ for it, but I don't want to be part of this
> system. That means that once this forum is moved to facebook it will
> be without me.
>
> Frans
>
>
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Subject: | Re: facebook or twitter |
I use both Facebook and Twitter daily. But vote we stay on Matronics.
Goff
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=422968#422968
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Subject: | Re: facebook or twitter |
On 6 May 2014, at 18:50, g-fizy wrote:
> Can i just throw a thought out to you all ,should we move to facebook or twitter
,, I am not a big fan of this old style forum ,,perhaps we could bring this
up at the AGM :-)
Jim - presumably that would be the AGM of Matronics, Inc - the organisation that
controls and runs the Europa e-mail list. (The Europa Club has no control over
the list - we did provide archive files to Matronics from the earlier period
when the Club _did_ run the list, but that is where the Club's involvement ended.)
I imagine you have a plan whereby the archives of the Europa list would be transferred
to whichever new tool you favour, and arrangements for that new tool to
provide similar search facilities as those provided by Matronics. I suppose
you have also figured out a persuasive argument that will make it clear to Matt
Dralle (head man at Matronics) how advantageous to him your new proposal will
be, to ensure that he takes down the Europa list and archives from his servers.
If "no" to any of the above, then you're just going to be fragmenting the Europa
community rather than doing anyone a favour. And even if you can answer "yes"
to all those questions, and have got Matt's agreement to take down his list
and archives, it's clear that most folk who have voiced an opinion are unlikely
to follow you anyway - we'll just set up another e-mail list somewhere else!
My personal feeling is that neither Twitter nor FaceBook is a suitable platform
for a technical discussion forum. Unlike many other posters here, I subscribe
to both, so I am not talking from a position of complete ignorance.
in friendship
Rowland
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Subject: | Re: facebook or twitter |
Well said Frans. I am of the same opinion.
Tim
Tim Ward
12 Waiwetu Street
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Christchurch, 8052
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ward.t@xtra.co.nz
Ph 64 3 3515166
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> On 8/05/2014, at 3:21 am, Frans Veldman <frans@privatepilots.nl> wrote:
>
>
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>> On 05/06/2014 07:50 PM, g-fizy wrote:
>>
>> Can i just throw a thought out to you all ,should we move to
>> facebook or twitter ,, I am not a big fan of this old style forum
>> ,,perhaps we could bring this up at the AGM :-)
>
> Hell no! I don't and won't have a facebook account. They are nor
> interested in you, nor in airplanes. They are only interested in money
> in whatever way they can get it. They sell everything a healthy
> individual would consider "private". Have seen the "like-buttons"
> everywhere? They act as little spies: once you are in their system
> they can track whatever website you visit, what your interests are, etc.
> Have noticed their stock value? Divide that by the amount of users and
> you will find that each individual user is worth about 150 US$. That
> is what some unknown parties pay them to obtain all your data and
> statistics.
> George Orwell was an optimist, only about 30 years too early.
>
> I don't care if individuals give away their privacy to facebook to let
> them collect 150 US$ for it, but I don't want to be part of this
> system. That means that once this forum is moved to facebook it will
> be without me.
>
> Frans
>
>
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Subject: | Re: facebook or twitter |
Facebook has always surprised me with the huge number of buttons you
have to press to do simple things, and having to reload the entire
page after each click.
Email can be read with an ascii browser such as lynx. The versatility
of email cannot be beaten, yet.
On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 12:30 PM, Ivor Phillips
<ivor.phillips@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> Exactly has Frans put it! You wouldn't see me using face book or twitter,
> Emails may now be old hat but they work for me and with a decent search engine
for past topics
> Much more user friendly IMO
> Ivor Phillips
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On 7 May 2014, at 16:21, Frans Veldman <frans@privatepilots.nl> wrote:
>>
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>>> On 05/06/2014 07:50 PM, g-fizy wrote:
>>>
>>> Can i just throw a thought out to you all ,should we move to
>>> facebook or twitter ,, I am not a big fan of this old style forum
>>> ,,perhaps we could bring this up at the AGM :-)
>>
>> Hell no! I don't and won't have a facebook account. They are nor
>> interested in you, nor in airplanes. They are only interested in money
>> in whatever way they can get it. They sell everything a healthy
>> individual would consider "private". Have seen the "like-buttons"
>> everywhere? They act as little spies: once you are in their system
>> they can track whatever website you visit, what your interests are, etc.
>> Have noticed their stock value? Divide that by the amount of users and
>> you will find that each individual user is worth about 150 US$. That
>> is what some unknown parties pay them to obtain all your data and
>> statistics.
>> George Orwell was an optimist, only about 30 years too early.
>>
>> I don't care if individuals give away their privacy to facebook to let
>> them collect 150 US$ for it, but I don't want to be part of this
>> system. That means that once this forum is moved to facebook it will
>> be without me.
>>
>> Frans
>>
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