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1. 12:36 AM - Re: Facebook/Twitter (Kingsley Hurst)
2. 12:48 AM - Re: Facebook/Twitter (Max Cointe (Free))
3. 02:07 AM - Re: Facebook/Twitter (alan.twigg775@gmail.com)
4. 02:08 AM - Re: Facebook/Twitter (alan.twigg775@gmail.com)
5. 07:45 AM - Re: Facebook/Twitter (duanefamly@aol.com)
6. 11:24 AM - nev eyre contactnumber (fraser221)
7. 11:26 AM - Re: Facebook/Twitter (Frans Veldman)
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| Subject: | Re: Facebook/Twitter |
Graham,
It is disappointing you now appear to be wanting to force your ideas onto others
notwithstanding almost total rejection of your FB/Twitter suggestion on this
list. I have detected no response that I would consider to be "snobby". Perhaps
those responses you consider to be negative are interpreted that way by you
only because those persons didn't agree with you.
I take umbrage at your suggestion that general rejection of the idea may reflect
the average age of list users. Rather I would suggest that rejection is a result
of list users being more mature than the majority of scatterbrains using
such marvellous social media. I was 70 years young last month and quite capable
of making my own informed decisions thank you.
Consider the following:-
There are many lists on the Matronics website servicing probably thousands of users.
Are all those users wrong?
The List isn't broken so doesn't need fixing.
I have been on this list for about 12 years and have not found any shortcomings
....... It suits my needs admirably.
I have yet to see anything end up better as a result of being changed for the sake
of change.
Sorry if I'm snobby!
Kingsley from Oz
Do not archive
Sent from my iPad
> On 18 May 2014, at 10:26 pm, "graeme bird" <graeme@gdbmk.co.uk> wrote:
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> I am surprised at some of the responses to the FB/Twitter question, perhaps it
reflects the average age?
> I find FB a great tool for sharing flying trips and posting pics of trips and
pics of people I take up; which they often then make their profile pics for a
while.
> Spooling through the reams of repeated text and even encrypted text and blank
lines on this, its obvious its not that efficient and stuck in the teletype erra.
Posting pics on here is also a pain to resize them. When I was reading the
recent Europa mag as well I was thinking there has to be something more immediate,
dynamic and digestible. Don't get me wrong, I like both the mag and the
forum; but such a negative (and snobby) response, I find surprising, perhaps
we should explore and let the next generation into our club.
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> What will this link do?
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> https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10152850833555715.1073741916.754055714&type=1&l=287f782aa7
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> Graeme Bird
> G-UMPY
> Mono Classic/XS 912S/Woodcomp 3000/3W
> Newby: 105 hours 26 months on the Mono
> g(at)gdbmk.co.uk
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| Subject: | Facebook/Twitter |
I'm 61 (can't trust it!) but engineer in new techs (IT & electronics).
Nevertheless I don't see (there is not?) any advantage to go FB and Twitter
more than spreading personal data where some can take advantage of it in
spite of me.
We can share here links to YouTube for videos, so may be the usage can be
improved to share pics easier, Matt?
Max Cointe
mcointe@free.fr
F-PMLH Europa XS_TriGear
Kit #560-2003 912ULS/AirmasterAP332 490 hours
F-PLDJ DynAro MCR 4S
Kit #27-2002 912ULSFR/MTProp MTV7A 1600 heures
> I never thought so many would dislike facebook or twitter ,i consider
myself a old git at 55 but have always been a tech head ,i hope some who
wish to will use
> facebook or twitter ,to post europa pictures and interesting non techno
europa info we mite pic up some more interested budding pilots
> Pics are always great, but I'd love to see many more wide angle go-pro
style vids on YouTube .... there are sadly extremely few from Europa's. Vids
are very
> motivational for the builders among us :-)
> I am surprised at some of the responses to the FB/Twitter question,
perhaps it reflects the average age?
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| Subject: | Re: Facebook/Twitter |
Can we drop this theme, we get the point, I have not responded as many have expressed
my view but I am close to unsubscribing as my
Sent from my iPhone
> On 18 May 2014, at 22:26, "graeme bird" <graeme@gdbmk.co.uk> wrote:
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> I am surprised at some of the responses to the FB/Twitter question, perhaps it
reflects the average age?
> I find FB a great tool for sharing flying trips and posting pics of trips and
pics of people I take up; which they often then make their profile pics for a
while.
> Spooling through the reams of repeated text and even encrypted text and blank
lines on this, its obvious its not that efficient and stuck in the teletype erra.
Posting pics on here is also a pain to resize them. When I was reading the
recent Europa mag as well I was thinking there has to be something more immediate,
dynamic and digestible. Don't get me wrong, I like both the mag and the
forum; but such a negative (and snobby) response, I find surprising, perhaps
we should explore and let the next generation into our club.
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> What will this link do?
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> https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10152850833555715.1073741916.754055714&type=1&l=287f782aa7
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> Graeme Bird
> G-UMPY
> Mono Classic/XS 912S/Woodcomp 3000/3W
> Newby: 105 hours 26 months on the Mono
> g(at)gdbmk.co.uk
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| Subject: | Re: Facebook/Twitter |
Can we drop this theme, we get the point, I have not responded as many have expressed
my view but I am close to unsubscribing as my
Sent from my iPhone
> On 18 May 2014, at 22:26, "graeme bird" <graeme@gdbmk.co.uk> wrote:
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> I am surprised at some of the responses to the FB/Twitter question, perhaps it
reflects the average age?
> I find FB a great tool for sharing flying trips and posting pics of trips and
pics of people I take up; which they often then make their profile pics for a
while.
> Spooling through the reams of repeated text and even encrypted text and blank
lines on this, its obvious its not that efficient and stuck in the teletype erra.
Posting pics on here is also a pain to resize them. When I was reading the
recent Europa mag as well I was thinking there has to be something more immediate,
dynamic and digestible. Don't get me wrong, I like both the mag and the
forum; but such a negative (and snobby) response, I find surprising, perhaps
we should explore and let the next generation into our club.
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> What will this link do?
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> https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10152850833555715.1073741916.754055714&type=1&l=287f782aa7
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> Graeme Bird
> G-UMPY
> Mono Classic/XS 912S/Woodcomp 3000/3W
> Newby: 105 hours 26 months on the Mono
> g(at)gdbmk.co.uk
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=423417#423417
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| Subject: | Re: Facebook/Twitter |
Alan, please don't allow the answers to your post steer you away from the E
uropa world. I don't understand the almost vehement refusal to even discuss
your idea. There is absolutely NO thought of "replacing" our current Forum
, but merely adding to our world. No one is demanding that people change th
e way they share their Europa world, but simply add another means to draw t
hose that use these means of communication. Some people prefer FB/Twitter b
ecause that is "their" world.....others, myself included, have relied on ou
r current communication platform for so long that is feels good. But I woul
d not be against having a means of more easily sharing pix of other builder
s designs, paint schemes, fixes to problems, and especially requesting help
with a problem (a picture IS worth a thousand words). Also, unless you are
already in the Europa world, people would never search for the Europa webs
ite or Builders Forum. On FB/Twitter, our world could attract those that co
uld develop a passion for building or flying Europas. And people need not s
hare any more personal information than they feel comfortable with. Everyth
ing that goes on FB/Twitter gets gleaned by so many information gatherers i
t would make your head spin.
Mike Duane
-----Original Message-----
From: alan.twigg775 <alan.twigg775@gmail.com>
Sent: Mon, May 19, 2014 2:07 am
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Facebook/Twitter
Can we drop this theme, we get the point, I have not responded as many have
expressed my view but I am close to unsubscribing as my
Sent from my iPhone
> On 18 May 2014, at 22:26, "graeme bird" <graeme@gdbmk.co.uk> wrote:
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> I am surprised at some of the responses to the FB/Twitter question, perha
ps it
reflects the average age?
> I find FB a great tool for sharing flying trips and posting pics of trips
and
pics of people I take up; which they often then make their profile pics for
a
while.
> Spooling through the reams of repeated text and even encrypted text and b
lank
lines on this, its obvious its not that efficient and stuck in the teletype
erra. Posting pics on here is also a pain to resize them. When I was readin
g the
recent Europa mag as well I was thinking there has to be something more
immediate, dynamic and digestible. Don't get me wrong, I like both the mag
and
the forum; but such a negative (and snobby) response, I find surprising, pe
rhaps
we should explore and let the next generation into our club.
>
> What will this link do?
>
> https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10152850833555715.1073741916.
754055714&type=1&l=287f782aa7
>
> --------
> Graeme Bird
> G-UMPY
> Mono Classic/XS 912S/Woodcomp 3000/3W
> Newby: 105 hours 26 months on the Mono
> g(at)gdbmk.co.uk
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=423417#423417
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| Subject: | nev eyre contactnumber |
hi guys, has anyone got Nev Eyre's contact number as the one have does not work
anymore.
thanks
Vic
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| Subject: | Re: Facebook/Twitter |
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On 05/19/2014 04:44 PM, duanefamly@aol.com wrote:
> On FB/Twitter, our world could attract those that could develop a
> passion for building or flying Europas.
Why would we want that? Has flying an Europa became a religion and do
we need to spread the word and try to draw more soals into it?
I don't care whether our current fleet would be expanded or remains
stable. No need for growth here. In fact, I think that many of us
wanted to build an Europa to do something special, not because one
felt the urge to follow the herd.
And to me it looks like facebook and twitter are mainly herd things. I
always get the feeling that it is sort of a compensation for people
who are not able to live an interesting live themselves. Making a
picture of their dinner and letting the world know that they are going
to eat it. That kind of stuf.
Oh and BTW, all of us were apparently able to find this little
community without the "help" of facebook or twitter. We don't need it
for that. In fact, I would suggest that anyone who is unable to find
this without the help of facebook or twitter doesn't deserve it. ;-)
> Everything that goes on FB/Twitter gets gleaned by so many
> information gatherers it would make your head spin.
And that is a good reason against it. I want to share my information
with people I know, and not share it with thousands of friends of
friends of friends... If I wanted to broadcast everything to the
entire world I would easily find opportunities to do so, still without
the help of facebook or twitter.
Frans
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