---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 05/19/14: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:36 AM - Re: Facebook/Twitter (Kingsley Hurst) 2. 12:48 AM - Re: Facebook/Twitter (Max Cointe (Free)) 3. 02:07 AM - Re: Facebook/Twitter (alan.twigg775@gmail.com) 4. 02:08 AM - Re: Facebook/Twitter (alan.twigg775@gmail.com) 5. 07:45 AM - Re: Facebook/Twitter (duanefamly@aol.com) 6. 11:24 AM - nev eyre contactnumber (fraser221) 7. 11:26 AM - Re: Facebook/Twitter (Frans Veldman) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:36:14 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Facebook/Twitter From: Kingsley Hurst Graham, It is disappointing you now appear to be wanting to force your ideas onto others notwithstanding almost total rejection of your FB/Twitter suggestion on this list. I have detected no response that I would consider to be "snobby". Perhaps those responses you consider to be negative are interpreted that way by you only because those persons didn't agree with you. I take umbrage at your suggestion that general rejection of the idea may reflect the average age of list users. Rather I would suggest that rejection is a result of list users being more mature than the majority of scatterbrains using such marvellous social media. I was 70 years young last month and quite capable of making my own informed decisions thank you. Consider the following:- There are many lists on the Matronics website servicing probably thousands of users. Are all those users wrong? The List isn't broken so doesn't need fixing. I have been on this list for about 12 years and have not found any shortcomings ....... It suits my needs admirably. I have yet to see anything end up better as a result of being changed for the sake of change. Sorry if I'm snobby! Kingsley from Oz Do not archive Sent from my iPad > On 18 May 2014, at 10:26 pm, "graeme bird" wrote: > > > I am surprised at some of the responses to the FB/Twitter question, perhaps it reflects the average age? > I find FB a great tool for sharing flying trips and posting pics of trips and pics of people I take up; which they often then make their profile pics for a while. > Spooling through the reams of repeated text and even encrypted text and blank lines on this, its obvious its not that efficient and stuck in the teletype erra. Posting pics on here is also a pain to resize them. When I was reading the recent Europa mag as well I was thinking there has to be something more immediate, dynamic and digestible. Don't get me wrong, I like both the mag and the forum; but such a negative (and snobby) response, I find surprising, perhaps we should explore and let the next generation into our club. > > What will this link do? > > https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10152850833555715.1073741916.754055714&type=1&l=287f782aa7 > > -------- > Graeme Bird > G-UMPY > Mono Classic/XS 912S/Woodcomp 3000/3W > Newby: 105 hours 26 months on the Mono > g(at)gdbmk.co.uk > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=423417#423417 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:48:55 AM PST US From: "Max Cointe (Free)" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Facebook/Twitter I'm 61 (can't trust it!) but engineer in new techs (IT & electronics). Nevertheless I don't see (there is not?) any advantage to go FB and Twitter more than spreading personal data where some can take advantage of it in spite of me. We can share here links to YouTube for videos, so may be the usage can be improved to share pics easier, Matt? Max Cointe mcointe@free.fr F-PMLH Europa XS_TriGear Kit #560-2003 912ULS/AirmasterAP332 490 hours F-PLDJ DynAro MCR 4S Kit #27-2002 912ULSFR/MTProp MTV7A 1600 heures > I never thought so many would dislike facebook or twitter ,i consider myself a old git at 55 but have always been a tech head ,i hope some who wish to will use > facebook or twitter ,to post europa pictures and interesting non techno europa info we mite pic up some more interested budding pilots > Pics are always great, but I'd love to see many more wide angle go-pro style vids on YouTube .... there are sadly extremely few from Europa's. Vids are very > motivational for the builders among us :-) > I am surprised at some of the responses to the FB/Twitter question, perhaps it reflects the average age? ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:07:23 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Facebook/Twitter From: alan.twigg775@gmail.com Can we drop this theme, we get the point, I have not responded as many have expressed my view but I am close to unsubscribing as my Sent from my iPhone > On 18 May 2014, at 22:26, "graeme bird" wrote: > > > I am surprised at some of the responses to the FB/Twitter question, perhaps it reflects the average age? > I find FB a great tool for sharing flying trips and posting pics of trips and pics of people I take up; which they often then make their profile pics for a while. > Spooling through the reams of repeated text and even encrypted text and blank lines on this, its obvious its not that efficient and stuck in the teletype erra. Posting pics on here is also a pain to resize them. When I was reading the recent Europa mag as well I was thinking there has to be something more immediate, dynamic and digestible. Don't get me wrong, I like both the mag and the forum; but such a negative (and snobby) response, I find surprising, perhaps we should explore and let the next generation into our club. > > What will this link do? > > https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10152850833555715.1073741916.754055714&type=1&l=287f782aa7 > > -------- > Graeme Bird > G-UMPY > Mono Classic/XS 912S/Woodcomp 3000/3W > Newby: 105 hours 26 months on the Mono > g(at)gdbmk.co.uk > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=423417#423417 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:08:01 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Facebook/Twitter From: alan.twigg775@gmail.com Can we drop this theme, we get the point, I have not responded as many have expressed my view but I am close to unsubscribing as my Sent from my iPhone > On 18 May 2014, at 22:26, "graeme bird" wrote: > > > I am surprised at some of the responses to the FB/Twitter question, perhaps it reflects the average age? > I find FB a great tool for sharing flying trips and posting pics of trips and pics of people I take up; which they often then make their profile pics for a while. > Spooling through the reams of repeated text and even encrypted text and blank lines on this, its obvious its not that efficient and stuck in the teletype erra. Posting pics on here is also a pain to resize them. When I was reading the recent Europa mag as well I was thinking there has to be something more immediate, dynamic and digestible. Don't get me wrong, I like both the mag and the forum; but such a negative (and snobby) response, I find surprising, perhaps we should explore and let the next generation into our club. > > What will this link do? > > https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10152850833555715.1073741916.754055714&type=1&l=287f782aa7 > > -------- > Graeme Bird > G-UMPY > Mono Classic/XS 912S/Woodcomp 3000/3W > Newby: 105 hours 26 months on the Mono > g(at)gdbmk.co.uk > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=423417#423417 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:45:46 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Facebook/Twitter From: duanefamly@aol.com Alan, please don't allow the answers to your post steer you away from the E uropa world. I don't understand the almost vehement refusal to even discuss your idea. There is absolutely NO thought of "replacing" our current Forum , but merely adding to our world. No one is demanding that people change th e way they share their Europa world, but simply add another means to draw t hose that use these means of communication. Some people prefer FB/Twitter b ecause that is "their" world.....others, myself included, have relied on ou r current communication platform for so long that is feels good. But I woul d not be against having a means of more easily sharing pix of other builder s designs, paint schemes, fixes to problems, and especially requesting help with a problem (a picture IS worth a thousand words). Also, unless you are already in the Europa world, people would never search for the Europa webs ite or Builders Forum. On FB/Twitter, our world could attract those that co uld develop a passion for building or flying Europas. And people need not s hare any more personal information than they feel comfortable with. Everyth ing that goes on FB/Twitter gets gleaned by so many information gatherers i t would make your head spin. Mike Duane -----Original Message----- From: alan.twigg775 Sent: Mon, May 19, 2014 2:07 am Subject: Re: Europa-List: Facebook/Twitter Can we drop this theme, we get the point, I have not responded as many have expressed my view but I am close to unsubscribing as my Sent from my iPhone > On 18 May 2014, at 22:26, "graeme bird" wrote: > > > I am surprised at some of the responses to the FB/Twitter question, perha ps it reflects the average age? > I find FB a great tool for sharing flying trips and posting pics of trips and pics of people I take up; which they often then make their profile pics for a while. > Spooling through the reams of repeated text and even encrypted text and b lank lines on this, its obvious its not that efficient and stuck in the teletype erra. Posting pics on here is also a pain to resize them. When I was readin g the recent Europa mag as well I was thinking there has to be something more immediate, dynamic and digestible. Don't get me wrong, I like both the mag and the forum; but such a negative (and snobby) response, I find surprising, pe rhaps we should explore and let the next generation into our club. > > What will this link do? > > https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10152850833555715.1073741916. 754055714&type=1&l=287f782aa7 > > -------- > Graeme Bird > G-UMPY > Mono Classic/XS 912S/Woodcomp 3000/3W > Newby: 105 hours 26 months on the Mono > g(at)gdbmk.co.uk > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=423417#423417 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:24:14 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: nev eyre contactnumber From: "fraser221" hi guys, has anyone got Nev Eyre's contact number as the one have does not work anymore. thanks Vic Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=423462#423462 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:26:41 AM PST US From: Frans Veldman Subject: Re: Europa-List: Facebook/Twitter -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 05/19/2014 04:44 PM, duanefamly@aol.com wrote: > On FB/Twitter, our world could attract those that could develop a > passion for building or flying Europas. Why would we want that? Has flying an Europa became a religion and do we need to spread the word and try to draw more soals into it? I don't care whether our current fleet would be expanded or remains stable. No need for growth here. In fact, I think that many of us wanted to build an Europa to do something special, not because one felt the urge to follow the herd. And to me it looks like facebook and twitter are mainly herd things. I always get the feeling that it is sort of a compensation for people who are not able to live an interesting live themselves. Making a picture of their dinner and letting the world know that they are going to eat it. That kind of stuf. Oh and BTW, all of us were apparently able to find this little community without the "help" of facebook or twitter. We don't need it for that. In fact, I would suggest that anyone who is unable to find this without the help of facebook or twitter doesn't deserve it. ;-) > Everything that goes on FB/Twitter gets gleaned by so many > information gatherers it would make your head spin. And that is a good reason against it. I want to share my information with people I know, and not share it with thousands of friends of friends of friends... If I wanted to broadcast everything to the entire world I would easily find opportunities to do so, still without the help of facebook or twitter. 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