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1. 05:39 AM - Re: Borglanda fly in (david park)
2. 07:31 AM - Re: Clevice \Forks debacle......... (Fred Klein)
3. 10:43 AM - Re: Electrical Wiring (spcialeffects)
4. 02:41 PM - Re: Re: Clevice \Forks debacle......... (Bud Yerly)
5. 03:03 PM - Re: Re: Clevice \Forks debacle......... (Tony Renshaw)
6. 03:20 PM - Re: Electrical Wiring (Bud Yerly)
7. 03:23 PM - Re: Re: Clevice \Forks debacle......... (Donald Cameron)
8. 03:37 PM - Re: Re: Clevice \Forks debacle......... (Tony Renshaw)
9. 03:56 PM - Was electrical wiring now..... fouling of lower clevis on TS03 (Bob Harrison)
10. 04:04 PM - Re: Borglanda fly in (Raimo Toivio)
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| Subject: | Re: Borglanda fly in |
Stephan,
Aircraft all prepared for departure on Wednesday but was not happy with weather
in channel as I planned a stop at Calais or Oostende. Cb's forecast with gusting
winds. Then another stop enroute. Cb's in UK today ?? so would not be arriving
till Saturday at least.
Please let me know of any further events in future, I will keep my Kroner!!!.
Did any one else make it from UK ?
May look at the Rotax fly in at Wels?
Best regards Dave G-LDVO
Sent from my iPad
> On 10 May 2014, at 07:38 pm, stephan cassel <stephan.cassel@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> There are participants from different parts of Europe:
>
> 4 fromLuxenburg ( One Eurpoa MG) - Booked hotel
> 1(2) from France
> 4 from Sweden
> 3 from Norway - Booked hotel and will rigg tent
> 2 from UK (I hope Dave Bossenworth is able to participate as usual)
>
> One thing for sure: Excellent food on Saturday:
> http://www.robinsoncrusoe.se/restaurang-borgholm/index.php
>
> Best regards
> Stephan
> LN-STE
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Clevice \Forks debacle......... |
Bob=85thank you for your attention to my build photo and for alerting me
to this issue, however vexing you may find it.
I am simply baffled to learn that you find =93there is already enough
shit flying about on the issue=94 and that it=92s an example showing
that =93people just can=92t read and interpret the English
language=94=85please do not attempt to elaborate=85I can do without
further discussion which you find unsuitable for posting on Matronics.
Fred
On May 22, 2014, at 2:19 AM, Bob Harrison <ptag.dev@talktalk.net> wrote:
> Hi! Tony /Fred.
> To try to help you over this vexed issue concerning the clevis forks I
just spoke to a local friend on the issue ....his immediate response was
that he had removed =BC=94 but when I questioned him further he started
to apply some engineering reason to the issue and suggested that we
probably both removed 1/8=94 from each clevice to ensure there was
adequate thread purchase left on both clevices. Which is the principle I
would apply , the only thing better is to remove it from one and check
the operational clearance as to whether it is necessary to do the other
too.
> I=92m not publishing this on the Matronics site since there is already
enough shit flying about on the issue , people just can=92t read and
interpret the English language !
> Regards
> Bob H
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| Subject: | Re: Electrical Wiring |
I have just fitted my trim motor two days ago so this was good timing! so i did
per the instructions and cut off the required tread and butted the plastic forks
together. I then found that when the motor was fully extended out it would
catch or rather bottom out on the cut out of the bell crank support. i extended
the cut out after speaking with another builder and this allowed full travel
of the trim motor.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=423597#423597
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| Subject: | Re: Clevice \Forks debacle......... |
Bob,
You are right on the money. Every aircraft I have built needed about
1/8 off each clevis on the pitch mechanism to allow the trim bar to
clear at full elevator and trim travel. As for interpreting the English
Language.... No comment.
Regards,
Bud Yerly
----- Original Message -----
From: Fred Klein<mailto:fklein@orcasonline.com>
To: europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 10:30 AM
Subject: Europa-List: Re: Clevice \Forks debacle.........
Bob=85thank you for your attention to my build photo and for alerting
me to this issue, however vexing you may find it.
I am simply baffled to learn that you find =93there is already enough
shit flying about on the issue=94 and that it=92s an example showing
that =93people just can=92t read and interpret the English
language=94=85please do not attempt to elaborate=85I can do without
further discussion which you find unsuitable for posting on Matronics.
Fred
On May 22, 2014, at 2:19 AM, Bob Harrison
<ptag.dev@talktalk.net<mailto:ptag.dev@talktalk.net>> wrote:
Hi! Tony /Fred.
To try to help you over this vexed issue concerning the clevis forks
I just spoke to a local friend on the issue ....his immediate response
was that he had removed =BC=94 but when I questioned him further he
started to apply some engineering reason to the issue and suggested that
we probably both removed 1/8=94 from each clevice to ensure there was
adequate thread purchase left on both clevices. Which is the principle I
would apply , the only thing better is to remove it from one and check
the operational clearance as to whether it is necessary to do the other
too.
I=92m not publishing this on the Matronics site since there is
already enough shit flying about on the issue , people just can=92t read
and interpret the English language !
Regards
Bob H
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avigator?Europa-List>
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| Subject: | Re: Clevice \Forks debacle......... |
Hi Bud,
Could you please elaborate where the fouling is more specifically? I appreci
ate knowing this, so I am thankful Bob brought it up. I have the top still o
ff so its ideal I overcome these issues now.
Regards
Tony Renshaw
> On 23 May 2014, at 7:40, "Bud Yerly" <budyerly@msn.com> wrote:
>
> Bob,
> You are right on the money. Every aircraft I have built needed about 1/8 o
ff each clevis on the pitch mechanism to allow the trim bar to clear at full
elevator and trim travel. As for interpreting the English Language.... No c
omment.
> Regards,
> Bud Yerly
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Fred Klein
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 10:30 AM
> Subject: Europa-List: Re: Clevice \Forks debacle.........
>
> Bobthank you for your attention to my build photo and for alertin
g me to this issue, however vexing you may find it.
>
> I am simply baffled to learn that you find =9Cthere is already enoug
h shit flying about on the issue=9D and that it=99s an example s
howing that =9Cpeople just can=99t read and interpret the Englis
h language=9Dplease do not attempt to elaborateI can
do without further discussion which you find unsuitable for posting on Matr
onics.
>
> Fred
>
>
>> On May 22, 2014, at 2:19 AM, Bob Harrison <ptag.dev@talktalk.net> wrote:
>>
>> Hi! Tony /Fred.
>> To try to help you over this vexed issue concerning the clevis forks I ju
st spoke to a local friend on the issue ....his immediate response was t
hat he had removed =C2=BC=9D but when I questioned him further he sta
rted to apply some engineering reason to the issue and suggested that we pro
bably both removed 1/8=9D from each clevice to ensure there was adequa
te thread purchase left on both clevices. Which is the principle I would app
ly , the only thing better is to remove it from one and check the operationa
l clearance as to whether it is necessary to do the other too.
>> I=99m not publishing this on the Matronics site since there is alre
ady enough shit flying about on the issue , people just can=99t read a
nd interpret the English language !
>> Regards
>> Bob H
>
>
>
>
>
> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List">http://www.matronh
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| Subject: | Re: Electrical Wiring |
Tony,
Your build experience will be enhanced by learning how to do DSub
connectors properly. Pins and Sockets may be purchased at very cheap
prices (even in gold plated connectors as I use).
I use Allied Electric (alliedelec.com) as my primary supplier. All your
avionics uses D subs. Garmin supplies and prefers the mil spec pins and
sockets, but many others are available. I use Tyco (TE Technology) or
Amp primarily.
Tools you need are:
A crimper (I use an Eclipse pro grade one, and my friend uses a Quest
technology ratcheting type for open crimp type pins which crimp the wire
and insulation for a great connection as well as my megabuck one.)
(I use a Quest Tech for my barrel pin connector crimper.) Even Radio
Shack has pretty good tools.
A D sub pin and socket extractor tool will be necessary.
A good wire stripper.
And you will find 9 and 25 pin are the the most common used in the
aircraft.
Connectors are only a few bucks, hardware a couple more and pins come in
sizes from AWG 30 wire to #18 and run about $.030.
I also like circular connectors for my through the firewall and airframe
to panel hookups.
More tools and fun gadgets.
After all, you built it, you can maintain it far cheaper than hiring
someone. But you need to do the study and practice.
If I run a wire anywhere, it terminates in a plug with a bit of a
maintenance loop or S turn to facilitate maintenance. If it is
electric, assume it will fail. Especially make sure you have connectors
that are easy to latch where it is difficult to get to or work.
Manufacturers make all different kind of connectors and hardware.
I do deviate from the book when it comes to inspection holes. I believe
an inspection hole must be big enough to work in, not just look and
scratch your head to try to figure out how to fix something using
tweasers and forceps while looking backwards through a mirror.
Enjoy Building
Bud Yerly
----- Original Message -----
From: Tony Renshaw<mailto:tonyrenshaw268@gmail.com>
To: europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 5:32 AM
Subject: Europa-List: Electrical Wiring
<tonyrenshaw268@gmail.com<mailto:tonyrenshaw268@gmail.com>>
Gidday,
I am interested in what is the correct or preferred connector for the
small wires in the RayAllen Servo wire bundles etc., the small dia
cabling of many devices. I=92m sure there are some better than others,
but I currently don=92t know any, albeit a ACS catalogue could narrow it
down. So far, I have tried D sub terminals, as they are easy to get and
easy to solder. Should I stick with them??
regards
Tony Renshaw
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avigator?Europa-List>
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| Subject: | Re: Clevice \Forks debacle......... |
Hi Tony
I believe the fouling is between the bell crank and the TS05 push rod.
The following is a copy of a check to be undertaken as part of the final che
cklist:
Check that trim bellcrank does not contact TS05 push-rod when fully forward (
tab full down) and tailplane is trailing edge up. This can be checked by cyc
ling the trim motor through its range whilst holding the stick fully back, a
nd listening for any labouring.
In my aircraft I did have the problem, as I also didn't know about shortenin
g the clevis/fork ends. I therefore had to do the remedial work with the top
on and was working single handed through the fuselage access holes. Not a v
ery easy task to undertake. As Bud said there is not a big amount to be rem
oved from the clevis/fork ends, just enought to ensure you get no binding be
tween the belcrank and the TS05 push rod when tailplane and trim tab is in t
he configuration as described above.
Kind regards
Donald(G-PUPY) (Nearly flying, awaiting paperwork from LAA to conduct flight
testing)
Sent from my iPad
> On 22 May 2014, at 23:02, Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw268@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Bud,
> Could you please elaborate where the fouling is more specifically? I appre
ciate knowing this, so I am thankful Bob brought it up. I have the top still
off so its ideal I overcome these issues now.
> Regards
> Tony Renshaw
>
>
>
>> On 23 May 2014, at 7:40, "Bud Yerly" <budyerly@msn.com> wrote:
>>
>> Bob,
>> You are right on the money. Every aircraft I have built needed about 1/8
off each clevis on the pitch mechanism to allow the trim bar to clear at fu
ll elevator and trim travel. As for interpreting the English Language.... N
o comment.
>> Regards,
>> Bud Yerly
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Fred Klein
>> To: europa-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 10:30 AM
>> Subject: Europa-List: Re: Clevice \Forks debacle.........
>>
>> Bobthank you for your attention to my build photo and for alerti
ng me to this issue, however vexing you may find it.
>>
>> I am simply baffled to learn that you find =9Cthere is already enou
gh shit flying about on the issue=9D and that it=99s an example s
howing that =9Cpeople just can=99t read and interpret the Englis
h language=9Dplease do not attempt to elaborateI can
do without further discussion which you find unsuitable for posting on Matr
onics.
>>
>> Fred
>>
>>
>>> On May 22, 2014, at 2:19 AM, Bob Harrison <ptag.dev@talktalk.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi! Tony /Fred.
>>> To try to help you over this vexed issue concerning the clevis forks I j
ust spoke to a local friend on the issue ....his immediate response was that
he had removed =C2=BC=9D but when I questioned him further he starte
d to apply some engineering reason to the issue and suggested that we probab
ly both removed 1/8=9D from each clevice to ensure there was adequate t
hread purchase left on both clevices. Which is the principle I would apply ,
the only thing better is to remove it from one and check the operational cl
earance as to whether it is necessary to do the other too.
>>> I=99m not publishing this on the Matronics site since there is alr
eady enough shit flying about on the issue , people just can=99t read a
nd interpret the English language !
>>> Regards
>>> Bob H
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Clevice \Forks debacle......... |
Hi Donald,
Thank you very much for the specifics. I=92ll have a closer look at my
setup and see if it effects me too. Hope the paperwork goes well. Do you
have any completed photos for us??
Regards
Tony Renshaw
On 23 May 2014, at 8:22 am, Donald Cameron <fireflier@btinternet.com>
wrote:
> Hi Tony
>
> I believe the fouling is between the bell crank and the TS05 push rod.
>
> The following is a copy of a check to be undertaken as part of the
final checklist:
> Check that trim bellcrank does not contact TS05 push-rod when fully
forward (tab full down) and tailplane is trailing edge up. This can be
checked by cycling the trim motor through its range whilst holding the
stick fully back, and listening for any labouring.
>
> In my aircraft I did have the problem, as I also didn't know about
shortening the clevis/fork ends. I therefore had to do the remedial work
with the top on and was working single handed through the fuselage
access holes. Not a very easy task to undertake. As Bud said there is
not a big amount to be removed from the clevis/fork ends, just enought
to ensure you get no binding between the belcrank and the TS05 push rod
when tailplane and trim tab is in the configuration as described above.
>
> Kind regards
> Donald(G-PUPY) (Nearly flying, awaiting paperwork from LAA to conduct
flight testing)
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 22 May 2014, at 23:02, Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw268@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>> Hi Bud,
>> Could you please elaborate where the fouling is more specifically? I
appreciate knowing this, so I am thankful Bob brought it up. I have the
top still off so its ideal I overcome these issues now.
>> Regards
>> Tony Renshaw
>>
>>
>>
>> On 23 May 2014, at 7:40, "Bud Yerly" <budyerly@msn.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Bob,
>>> You are right on the money. Every aircraft I have built needed
about 1/8 off each clevis on the pitch mechanism to allow the trim bar
to clear at full elevator and trim travel. As for interpreting the
English Language.... No comment.
>>> Regards,
>>> Bud Yerly
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Fred Klein
>>> To: europa-list@matronics.com
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 10:30 AM
>>> Subject: Europa-List: Re: Clevice \Forks debacle.........
>>>
>>> Bob=85thank you for your attention to my build photo and for
alerting me to this issue, however vexing you may find it.
>>>
>>> I am simply baffled to learn that you find =93there is already
enough shit flying about on the issue=94 and that it=92s an example
showing that =93people just can=92t read and interpret the English
language=94=85please do not attempt to elaborate=85I can do without
further discussion which you find unsuitable for posting on Matronics.
>>>
>>> Fred
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 22, 2014, at 2:19 AM, Bob Harrison <ptag.dev@talktalk.net>
wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi! Tony /Fred.
>>>> To try to help you over this vexed issue concerning the clevis
forks I just spoke to a local friend on the issue ....his immediate
response was that he had removed =BC=94 but when I questioned him
further he started to apply some engineering reason to the issue and
suggested that we probably both removed 1/8=94 from each clevice to
ensure there was adequate thread purchase left on both clevices. Which
is the principle I would apply , the only thing better is to remove it
from one and check the operational clearance as to whether it is
necessary to do the other too.
>>>> I=92m not publishing this on the Matronics site since there is
already enough shit flying about on the issue , people just can=92t read
and interpret the English language !
>>>> Regards
>>>> Bob H
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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| Subject: | Was electrical wiring now..... fouling of lower clevis on |
TS03
Donald / Bud and all.
The problem is NOT Connected with the TS05 Push Rod. It is the TS03 Bell
Crank lever which fouls on the root of the plastic fork on the Clevis which
is pinned to and drives the Bell Crank. The fouling happens because the two
clevises are too long for the bell crank to describe it's geometric circle
of motion with out fouling up in the base of the lower fork at it's fully
driven position down. Please see Tony's photo and description I sent back
to him and Fred below . and read the description I sent with the photo.
Regards
Bob Harrison.
From: Bob Harrison [mailto:ptag.dev@talktalk.net]
Sent: 22 May 2014 08:53
Cc: 'Fred Klein'
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Electrical Wiring
Hi! Tony,
You shorten the plastic where both ends meet at position 2 on your picture
. The fouling occurs in the base of the fork at the metal lever in the full
travel down position of the lower fork which is hidden by the bracket in
your picture . It can be witnessed by operating the motor to it's end
limit and you can hear the motor labour as soon as it fouls. I don't recall
how much I removed but I would guess 1/8" but I don't remember if it was
from both or just one.
I suggest you do one first then do a trial run if it still fouls do the
other similarly.
I'm sorry but I would have expected someone in real authority to have come
on scene on this issue by now? I'm beginning to wish I hadn't put my oar in
the puddle !
Further note:- YOU DO NOT TRIM THE FORKS ANYWHERE BUT THE THREADED ENDS
ENABLING THEM TO BE CLOSER TOGETHER on the threaded rod.
(Contrary to more recent suggestions on here.)
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
From: Tony Renshaw [mailto:tonyrenshaw268@gmail.com]
Sent: 21 May 2014 23:34
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Electrical Wiring
Hi Bob,
Like Fred, I just want to clarify that you shorten the clevis from the end
that abuts the other clevis. Is that right, and do you remember how much you
cut away? Do you recall what part actually does the binding?? I've numbered
the pic below.
Regards
Tony R.
On 22 May 20cid:image001.jpg@01CF7599.407EEDA014, at 7:53 am, Bob Harrison
<ptag.dev@talktalk.net> wrote:
Hi! Tony I'm thinking it is detail that is not in the manual and you only
find it on final check through and then have to piss about getting back into
it to dismantle it to effect the work. If not done it stresses out by
binding up in the root of the clevis before the end of the travel as others
are now confirming !
Good luck!
Bob H G-PTAG
From: Tony Renshaw [mailto:tonyrenshaw268@gmail.com]
Sent: 21 May 2014 22:17
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Electrical Wiring
Hi Bob,
With my setup I don't recall shortening the clevis, either top or bottom. Do
you recall if it is in the instructions? I notice on Fred's pics they are
butting together with no visible link rod. Will go out and look at my own
setup when I properly start my day. These iPads are great for reading
emails, and newspaper before getting out of bed.
Regards
Tony Renshaw
Sent from my iPad
On 22 May 2014, at 12:40 am, "Bob Harrison" < <mailto:ptag.dev@talktalk.net>
ptag.dev@talktalk.net> wrote:
Attention Fred Klein .
Whilst I am not wishing to "enter the fray" about the issue of connectors it
occurs to me having looked at your photo of your servo and the plastic
clevises to ask if you have shortened them before connecting them with the
piece of threaded rod? You are headed for some hassle if you haven't,
since you won't get enough trim through the operating range of the
Stabilators without the bottom clevis fouling up on the operating lever at
the end of the travel range.. ( I think that was the best description of the
problem but check it out Fred before you close it up with the top on!)
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
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| Subject: | Re: Borglanda fly in |
Hi,
pls count me also on!
That means
1 from Finland (one Europa Speedy Mono) =93 booked Hotell Borgholm
Sorry for late sign up for EAN 2014 Fly Inn.
That=C2=B4s because I had a mid-range tech issue which I managed to sort
out finally today =93 there was a bad crack in the muffler
/silencer (that=C2=B4s why I have had a serious CO problem). Totally new
system has been installed and it seems to work well. A very first flight
was four hours ago, just after sunset! That included climbing to 3000 ft
and some stalls clean /w flaps, couple touch & goes and a little
X-country flight from EFTP to (over) our home and back to homefield.
That was also my personal first Europa flight 2014.
It gives happily no CO any more into cockpit but a lot more noise &
rumble. A good reason to have good DANRS headsets (Beyerdynamic HS 800
Digital Indv). In this rare case (isn=C2=B4t that so that usually you
do get some weight penalty after every single modifying?) a weight
penalty was minus 3 kilos and I felt there was a lot more power
available! Stb-side exhaust manifold comes slightly out from the lower
cowling so I had to do some minor re-design for it.
See you in Borgholm, Sweden. Today!!!
Cheers, Raimo Toivio
Europa XS Mono OH-XRT #417
Updated flight hours /landings: 388 /+600
37500 Lempaala
FINLAND
p +358-3-3753 777
f +358-3-3753 100
raimo.toivio@rwm.fi
www.rwm.fi
From: stephan cassel
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 9:38 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Borglanda fly in
Hi,
There are participants from different parts of Europe:
4 fromLuxenburg ( One Eurpoa MG) - Booked hotel
1(2) from France
4 from Sweden
3 from Norway - Booked hotel and will rigg tent
2 from UK (I hope Dave Bossenworth is able to participate as usual)
One thing for sure: Excellent food on Saturday:
http://www.robinsoncrusoe.se/restaurang-borgholm/index.php
Best regards
Stephan
LN-STE
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