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1. 04:27 AM - Re: Re: Key Sanding................and Instrument Panel ventilation (Richard Collings)
2. 04:59 AM - Re: Castle Kennedy fly in (Chuck Rhoads)
3. 05:05 AM - Re: Castle Kennedy fly in (David Joyce)
4. 05:52 AM - Re: Re: Key Sanding................and Instrument Panel ventilation (Tony Renshaw)
5. 01:54 PM - UK Airspace definition (graeme bird)
6. 05:07 PM - Re: antennas (craig)
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| Subject: | Re: Key Sanding................and Instrument Panel ventilation |
Hi Tony
If you have mounted the instrument module on rubber bushes as we discussed
earlier you will have created a vent all along the top, if heat is an issue
you can fit a fan or fans on the underside of the instrument module both
sides and drive cooler cabin air up into the module and let it exit across
the top. It could also act as a demister and it keeps the fans out of site.
Best wishes
Richard
G-CGZV
By the way you were right I can't count only 5 brackets hold the top engine
cowl on !
-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Renshaw
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:59 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Key Sanding................and Instrument
Panel ventilation
Hi John,
Re Key Sanding, I suppose the purpose is to legitimise why we do it, and its
because Ive been doing work on the very thin sandwich skin of the fuselage.
The cloth in question is so thin, and I believe any strong Grit will
compromise the structure, so it got me thinking about what the goal really
is. I reckon the goal is to abrade the matrix resin, without compromising or
ideally even touching the entrapped glass, and in essence increasing the
surface area in the process. I then wondered academically whether there was
any difference in the surface area between one Grit and another, and I dont
believe there is, SO, when key sanding, any grit will do if it roughens the
surface and dulls it off. Thats all, just an academic exercise, but I know
there are smarter guys than me on the list, so I asked.
re: Instrument Panel Venting, I have kindly been sent a few photos but am
always desiring seeing how others have done things, so yes, Id love to get
some photos. Thanks John.
Regards
Tony Renshaw
On 30 May 2014, at 9:55 pm, John Wighton <john@wighton.net> wrote:
>
> Tony,
>
> Not sure on where the surface area discussion is going - or the objective.
>
> Regarding the panel, l installed 2off fans in a carbon frame above the 6
> pack/EFIS hybrid panel in G-IPOD. This is the highest point hence hot air
> will collect here. It performs the de-mist function in the cockpit (no
> other heater is fitted).
>
> I can send some pics if needed.
>
> Regards
> John
>
> --------
> John Wighton
> Europa XS trigear G-IPOD
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=424022#424022
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Castle Kennedy fly in |
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| Subject: | Re: Castle Kennedy fly in |
Ken, We expect the entire Europa community to be at the
Aeroexpo at Sywell tomorrow! David Joyce, G-XSDJ
On Sat, 31 May 2014 07:58:26 -0400
Chuck Rhoads <cfrhoads@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> What is the website?
>
> Sent from my ASUS MeMO Pad
>
> KENNETH ATKINSON <kennethatkinson178@btinternet.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>> Sorry this is a bit late.
>>
>>Are there any other Europas likely to attend Castle
>>Kennedy Fly-in tomorrow.
>>
>> I am flying in in the morning.
>>
>>
>>
>> I thoroughly enjoyed it last year-good food,lots of
>>aircraft,model flying,nice castle to visit -see website!
>>
>>
>>
>> Ken G-CEKV
>>
>>http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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| Subject: | Re: Key Sanding................and Instrument Panel ventilation |
Hi Richard,
Now thats a good idea, to push cooler canin air up through the panel. I am about
to mount the panel on the rubber bushes, and working on replicating the cowl
setup. Just keep sending all your good ideas downunder.
;-)
Regards
Tony Renshaw
Photos to follow.
> On 31 May 2014, at 21:26, "Richard Collings" <rcollings@talktalk.net> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Tony
> If you have mounted the instrument module on rubber bushes as we discussed earlier
you will have created a vent all along the top, if heat is an issue you
can fit a fan or fans on the underside of the instrument module both sides and
drive cooler cabin air up into the module and let it exit across the top. It
could also act as a demister and it keeps the fans out of site.
> Best wishes
> Richard
> G-CGZV
> By the way you were right I can't count only 5 brackets hold the top engine cowl
on !
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Tony Renshaw
> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 11:59 PM
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Key Sanding................and Instrument Panel
ventilation
>
>
> Hi John,
> Re Key Sanding, I suppose the purpose is to legitimise why we do it, and its
because Ive been doing work on the very thin sandwich skin of the fuselage. The
cloth in question is so thin, and I believe any strong Grit will compromise
the structure, so it got me thinking about what the goal really is. I reckon the
goal is to abrade the matrix resin, without compromising or ideally even touching
the entrapped glass, and in essence increasing the surface area in the
process. I then wondered academically whether there was any difference in the
surface area between one Grit and another, and I dont believe there is, SO, when
key sanding, any grit will do if it roughens the surface and dulls it off.
Thats all, just an academic exercise, but I know there are smarter guys than me
on the list, so I asked.
>
> re: Instrument Panel Venting, I have kindly been sent a few photos but am always
desiring seeing how others have done things, so yes, Id love to get some photos.
Thanks John.
> Regards
> Tony Renshaw
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> On 30 May 2014, at 9:55 pm, John Wighton <john@wighton.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Tony,
>>
>> Not sure on where the surface area discussion is going - or the objective.
>>
>> Regarding the panel, l installed 2off fans in a carbon frame above the 6 pack/EFIS
hybrid panel in G-IPOD. This is the highest point hence hot air will collect
here. It performs the de-mist function in the cockpit (no other heater
is fitted).
>>
>> I can send some pics if needed.
>>
>> Regards
>> John
>>
>> --------
>> John Wighton
>> Europa XS trigear G-IPOD
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=424022#424022
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | UK Airspace definition |
Looking at the new CAA north of England and northern Ireland map purchased at Aeroexpo
yesterday. The zones around Belfast are an absolute mess -possibly the
new graphics make it worse. If they cant make it simple and clear no wonder
they get zone busts. Glad to have skydemon!
--------
Graeme Bird
G-UMPY
Mono Classic/XS 912S/Woodcomp 3000/3W
Newby: 105 hours 26 months on the Mono
g(at)gdbmk.co.uk
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=424128#424128
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I put a full wave loop antenna in to run a hand held scanner in mine a/c works
a LOT better than the stubby antenna
Get excellent reception afis, ground and atc at the nearest airport about 40km
away, I get nothing with the stubby antenna
Its on about 4m of coax to get to the loop
Regards
craig
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