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1. 01:34 AM - AW: Europa Club fly-out to Eastern Europe 14-21 June (UVTREITH)
2. 04:15 AM - Re: SkyYiew antenna (Trevpond@aol.com)
3. 05:59 AM - Re: SkyYiew antenna (Donald Cameron)
4. 06:17 AM - Re: SkyYiew antenna (Fred Klein)
5. 06:26 AM - Re: SkyYiew antenna (Donald Cameron)
6. 09:15 AM - Re: Key Sanding................and Instrument Panel ventilation (Scudrunner)
7. 09:30 AM - Re: Re: Key Sanding................and Instrument Panel ventilation (Fred Klein)
8. 10:44 AM - Re: SkyYiew antenna (Bud Yerly)
9. 08:11 PM - Re: SkyYiew antenna (Fred Klein)
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Subject: | Europa Club fly-out to Eastern Europe 14-21 June |
Good Morning Eastern Europa pilots.
If you like you can make a break on your return flight on my airfield
www.edkw.de <http://www.edkw.de/>
This location is direct on your route. We have a camping area, a nice
barbecue facility with our own cantina and a quite good restaurant . You
could also stay in a hotel close by.
I would like to invite you for some free drinks (beer and others) and a
barbecue.
We also have Avgas and Mogas.
When this will suit your planning I also will try to get some other Europa
pilots for a nice "German" Europa meeting.
Have a safe trip.
Best Regards,
Bruno Reith
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Von: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] Im Auftrag von
m.j.gregory@talk21.com
Gesendet: Sonntag, 1. Juni 2014 20:37
An: europa-list@matronics.com
Betreff: Europa-List: Europa Club fly-out to Eastern Europe 14-21 June
If any Europa Club members are thinking that they might like to join the
planned fly out to Eastern Europe in 2 weeks' time, please would they send
me an email as soon as possible, as I would like to finalise the list on
Wednesday 4 June.
As a reminder, the Europa Flyer (EF 80 March 2014) entry described the tour
as follows:
"14-21 June Krakow and Eastern Europe. This trip will aim to have 3 days in
Krakow to enjoy this fascinating city, its magnificent air museum and the
surrounding area, and will take in interesting places on the out and return
journeys. Mike Gregory (m.j.gregory@talk21.com; 01480 451655)"
Regards,
Mike
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Subject: | Re: SkyYiew antenna |
Hi Fred,
My Skyview antenna is under the instrument panel coaming on the left hand
side. Garmin Antenna for the 695 is on the right hand side. Never had an
y
problems and always get perfect signals on both the instruments.
best regards
Trev
G-LINN
In a message dated 02/06/2014 02:15:31 GMT Daylight Time,
tonyrenshaw268@gmail.com writes:
--> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw268@gmail.com
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Hi Fred,
With that Dynon Skyview GPS EFIS setup, what are you considering for a
location?? Underside of instrument panel coaming, or in the roof?
Tony R.
On 2 Jun 2014, at 9:30 am, Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com> wrote:
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> I=99ve been advised that a garmin instrument technician sez that i
t is
optimal to have the gps antenna a good distance (he said 18 inches) away f
rom
other gps antennas as well as the electronics and instruments.
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> Anyone flying w/ SkyView SV-250-GPS module installed?if so, I
=99m
curious as to where you=99ve installed your SV-250 module, and if pe
rformance is
acceptable; if not, where are you planning to relocate it?
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> thanx,
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> Fred
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Subject: | Re: SkyYiew antenna |
Hi Fred
I have got my gps module mounted into a recess on the tip of my instrument p
anel. I have also got my garmin 296 gps antenna mounted in a similar positio
n.
I don't have any problems with them being mounted here or have any problems w
ith them being located close to each other.
See photos attached showing mine incorporated into the top of my instrument p
anel.
Kind regards
Donald
G-PUPY ( awaiting LAA paperwork to allow test flying)
Sent from my iPhone
On 2 Jun 2014, at 00:30, Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com> wrote:
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> I=99ve been advised that a garmin instrument technician sez that it i
s optimal to have the gps antenna a good distance (he said 18 inches) away f
rom other gps antennas as well as the electronics and instruments.
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> Anyone flying w/ SkyView SV-250-GPS module installed?if so, I
=99m curious as to where you=99ve installed your SV-250 module, and if
performance is acceptable; if not, where are you planning to relocate it
?
>
> thanx,
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> Fred
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Subject: | Re: SkyYiew antenna |
Donald=85thanks for the reassurance=85and the pixs=85very sweet
installation=85would love to see a pix of your panel itself=85good luck
w/ your test flying=85Fred
On Jun 2, 2014, at 5:58 AM, Donald Cameron <fireflier@btinternet.com>
wrote:
> I have got my gps module mounted into a recess on the tip of my
instrument panel. I have also got my garmin 296 gps antenna mounted in a
similar position.
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> I don't have any problems with them being mounted here or have any
problems with them being located close to each other.
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Subject: | Re: SkyYiew antenna |
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Subject: | Re: Key Sanding................and Instrument Panel ventilation |
Just an observation for those fitting fans etc in the top of the instrument panel;
I mounted a box under here recently and used four stainless steel screws.
In flight they resulted in four very annoying reflections in the canopy - I recommend
keeping everything up there matt black or dark grey. [Embarassed]
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=424213#424213
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Subject: | Re: Key Sanding................and Instrument Panel ventilation |
thanks for the tipId not considered possible reflectionsthe dark grey louvers will
definitely go onf.
On Jun 2, 2014, at 9:14 AM, Scudrunner <howardbrooksster@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Just an observation for those fitting fans etc in the top of the instrument panel;
I mounted a box under here recently and used four stainless steel screws.
In flight they resulted in four very annoying reflections in the canopy - I
recommend keeping everything up there matt black or dark grey. [Embarassed]
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Subject: | Re: SkyYiew antenna |
Fred,
Have mounted Garmin, Dynon, Grand Rapids GPS antennas inside the panel.
The postage stamp style (dynon/grt/aftermarket for handheld 496) work
best mounted to a hat shapped aluminum mount reduxed to the top inside
of the panel. I find the postage stamp type work best mounted to a
small thin metal bracket or signal reception degrades... Grounding of
the metal makes no difference.
Garmin IFR antennas are mounted under the top above the space between
the radio stack and instruments. No metal backing necessary. I use
fiberglass C sections on each side (actually just wrapped the Garmin
with glass with release tape to make it replaceable and used the
provided screw holes )...
Some Rules:
The antenna cannot be mounted under any metal, carbon fiber. Avoid
metalic paint (metal flake) on the panel.
If using fans in the top, obviously keep them to the sides of the
antenna.
Make sure you use good quality coax.
Mount the antenna solid so it doesn't vibrate.
If you install a marker beacon home made antenna in the panel, keep it
clear by about 6 inches as it swallows waves of its own.
I've put the GRT antenna 8 inches from the Garmin antenna and they both
work fine. The GRT hat section metal is a bit wider than the postage
stamp and the vertical part of the hat blocks the Garmin from direct
line of sight. They play nicely together.
Never had any problems with these simple rules.
Anytime you mount something to the top of the instrument panel it will
reflect on the windscreen. You shouldn't paint the Garmins or postage
stamp types. So the only help is to put a piece of black cloth over the
white antenna. Some of the postage stamps are a satin black and aren't
too bad but you sure do see it in the reflection of the panel top on the
screen.
If fans are installed, paint the fan flat black and cover with
fiberglass screens installed on the panel, painted to match the panel
color or flat black.
Panel top should be painted a dark color (dark brown, flat black, dark
gray) to keep light reflections on the windscreens to a minimum.
I paint my panels with SEM interior lacquer color paint, coat with their
flat clear but lacquer chips so... I use Polyurethane paint over the
SEM interior lacquer color paint with flatener added. Then letter the
panel. Then coat with another layer of flat clear. SEM makes a clear
hotrod flat paint that works well. Polyurethane holds up well to the
stuff we throw in the tray, or other stuff we flop on top of the panel.
The flat can be wiped clean without streaking and can be touched up
nicely if gouged. No reflection problems. Stay away from enamel and
lacquer flat finishes as they don't hold up to wear and tear and often
look funny after wiping the dust off with cleaner.
Now that I have the wife flying with me, military gray/ flat black is
out of my paint inventory. We have 12AY in nice tan (face) and browns
(panel) that are soothing and comfortable and match the leather and
fabrics in the cockpit giving a uniformity to the texture and feel.
(I've been watching too many decorating shows lately.) You get awards
for nice paint and stuff, but watch the reflections and wearability or
you'll never see traffic with the sun at 12 o'clock...
Regards,
Bud Yerly
----- Original Message -----
From: Fred Klein<mailto:fklein@orcasonline.com>
To: europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 7:30 PM
Subject: Europa-List: SkyYiew antenna
<fklein@orcasonline.com<mailto:fklein@orcasonline.com>>
I=92ve been advised that a garmin instrument technician sez that it is
optimal to have the gps antenna a good distance (he said 18 inches) away
from other gps antennas as well as the electronics and instruments.
Anyone flying w/ SkyView SV-250-GPS module installed?=85if so, I=92m
curious as to where you=92ve installed your SV-250 module, and if
performance is acceptable; if not, where are you planning to relocate
it=85?=85
thanx,
Fred
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Subject: | Re: SkyYiew antenna |
Bud=85thank you for your comprehensive reply to my questions=85I keep a
special file of your thorough and detailed posts=85especially helpful to
a novice since my bird is tending towards having a high degree of
novelty.
How I value this forum,
Fred
On Jun 2, 2014, at 10:43 AM, Bud Yerly <budyerly@msn.com> wrote:
> Have mounted Garmin, Dynon, Grand Rapids GPS antennas inside the
panel.
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> Some Rules:
> Never had any problems with these simple rules.
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