---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 06/14/14: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:44 AM - Re: Araldit 420 (Redux) (Nigel Graham) 2. 03:54 AM - Re: Flap Actuator Load Calcs.....how do I do it?? (GRAHAM SINGLETON) 3. 10:42 AM - Re: Araldit 420 (Redux) (NEEL Jean Philippe) 4. 12:52 PM - Red Top Battery (Varley aka DMS) low voltage (John Wighton) 5. 02:03 PM - Re: Red Top Battery (Varley aka DMS) low voltage (rparigoris) 6. 02:21 PM - Re: Flap Actuator Load Calcs.....how do I do it?? (Tony Renshaw) 7. 04:36 PM - Trim damper and sticking the top on. (William Daniell) 8. 04:40 PM - Re: Trim damper and sticking the top on. (William Daniell) 9. 04:59 PM - Re: Trim damper and sticking the top on. (Timward) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:44:03 AM PST US From: Nigel Graham Subject: Re: Europa-List: Araldit 420 (Redux) Biesterfeld Spezialchemie Austria GmbH & Co. KG Bruhausgasse 3-5 1050 Vienna Austria Phone:+43 1 545 69 85 0 Fax:+43 1 545 69 85 45 E-Mail: info(at)biesterfeld.at www.biesterfeld-spezialchemie.at Nigel --------------------------------------- On 14/06/2014 07:49, Klaus Dietrich wrote: > I need to re-fix my tail wheel spring and would need some Redux 420. > Does anybody know where I can buy it, for fast delivery to Austria? > > Thanks, > Klaus (OE-CKD, Mono-wheel, Classic 912) > > Klaus A. Dietrich > Tel: +43 699 104 18 106 > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:54:09 AM PST US From: GRAHAM SINGLETON Subject: Re: Europa-List: Flap Actuator Load Calcs.....how do I do it?? Tony=0Athe air load on the flaps is (almost completely) balanced, so the lo ad=0Aon the flap lever is very low. Monowheel drivers will know that it tak es=0Avery little effort to move the flap in flight, the only disturbance to this is the weight of the wheel which=0Ais balanced by the shock chord.=0A Graham=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Tony Renshaw =0ATo: "" =0ASent: Saturday, 14 June 2014, 0:42=0ASubject: Europa-Li st: Flap Actuator Load Calcs.....how do I do it??=0A =0A=0A--> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw =0A=0AGidday=0AMy electric flap actuator can take a 110 lb dynamic load, and a 500 lb static load. I want to know how to work out the dynamic load on the flap at max f lap limit speed. If I can work out the area of my flaps, and know the full flap deflection angle, and limit speed, does anyone know how to calculate t he force to drive the flaps to their extended position?=0AThanks=0ATony Ren = ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:42:21 AM PST US From: NEEL Jean Philippe Subject: Re: Europa-List: Araldit 420 (Redux) Salut Klaus=0ACi dessous une adresse Fran=E7aise , si tu ne trouve pas mieu x pr=E8s de chez toi=0AAmiti=E9s=0AJP=0A=0Ahttp://www.dilfrance.com/=0ADill France=0A5 Av de L'Amazonie=0A91940 LES ULLIS=0A01 64 86 54 00 =0A=0A=0ALe Samedi 14 juin 2014 9h43, Nigel Graham a =E9 crit :=0A =0A=0A=0ABiesterfeld Spezialchemie Austria GmbH & Co. KG=0ABr=E4 uhausgasse 3-5=0A1050 Vienna=0AAustria=0A=0APhone:+43 1 545 69 85 0=0AFax:+ 43 1 545 69 85 45=0AE-Mail: info(at)biesterfeld.at=0Ahttp://www.biesterfeld -spezialchemie.at/=0A=0ANigel=0A---------------------------------------=0A =0AOn 14/06/2014 07:49, Klaus Dietrich wrote:=0A =0AI need to re-fix my tai l wheel spring and would need some Redux 420. =0A>Does anybody know where I can buy it, for fast delivery to Austria? =0A>=0A> =0A>Thanks, =0A>Klaus ( OE-CKD, Mono-wheel, Classic 912)=0A>=0A>=0A>Klaus A. Dietrich- =0A>Tel: ===== ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:52:49 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Red Top Battery (Varley aka DMS) low voltage From: "John Wighton" I found that l had accidentally left the power on and the Red Top 25 battery is now reading a static voltage of 5.6v. Attempts to charge it fail (using 'intelligent' chargers does not seem to help). Anyone know a way of recovery it? I checked the spec on the Varley website, apparently it is 7kg. If l need to buy a replacement l would consider a LiFe battery instead and save a few kg. Any advise on the use of LiFe with the standard Rotax 912S charging circuits? Thanks John -------- John Wighton Europa XS trigear G-IPOD Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=424837#424837 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:03:24 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Red Top Battery (Varley aka DMS) low voltage From: "rparigoris" Hi John You need a "Dumb" Charger if you have any chance at all. If you have or can find a constant charger that outputs between 250 and 750 miliAmps. Let it run until you get to 15.5 volts. With a 500 mA charger this will take days and days if the battery has sulfided. It's possible the battery is beyond bringing back to life, but the shorter the time you leave it dwell below 12.5 volts, the worst off you are. By allowing the battery to dwell above 14.4 volts and up to 15.5 volts at a very small current seems to do very good things to break up any sulfation. Monitor often the voltage during this process. Listen for excess activity with your ear on the battery over 14.4 volts. I have used 250 to 500mA on 18aH batteries, 1,000 mAs seemed a bit too much, I'm thinking 750mA may be OK? Let us know how you make out. Ron P. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=424838#424838 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:21:13 PM PST US From: Tony Renshaw Subject: Re: Europa-List: Flap Actuator Load Calcs.....how do I do it?? Hi Graham, I'm doing the Bob Berube fixed gear taildragger, so I might have some loads t hough? Regards Tony R. > On 14 Jun 2014, at 20:43, GRAHAM SINGLETON wrote: > > Tony > the air load on the flaps is (almost completely) balanced, so the load > on the flap lever is very low. Monowheel drivers will know that it takes > very little effort to move the flap in flight, the only disturbance to thi s is the weight of the wheel which > is balanced by the shock chord. > Graham > > > From: Tony Renshaw > To: "" > Sent: Saturday, 14 June 2014, 0:42 > Subject: Europa-List: Flap Actuator Load Calcs.....how do I do it?? > > > Gidday > My electric flap actuator can take a 110 lb dynamic load, and a 500 lb sta tic load. I want to know how to work out the dynamic load on the flap at max flap limit speed. If I can work out the area of my flaps, and know the full flap deflection angle, and limit speed, does anyone know how to calculate t he force to drive the flaps to their extended position? > Thanks > Tony Renshaw > > Sent from my - The Europa-List Email Forum /Navigator?Europa-List" targ et="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigatosp; - MATRONICS W EB FORUMS - 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:36:56 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Trim damper and sticking the top on. From: William Daniell Yesterday I got permission from the inspector to turn my canoe into and airplane. But before i stick the top on can I ask the general wisdom for gotchas. I have done installed pretty much everything I can,,,I think. All the tail assembly, the pitch containment plywood thing and the electrics. The coax for the antenna. Installed the battery the main gear and the flap actuator system, set the wing incidence... Anything else I should have done? I have one specific question...how tight should the pitch trim damper be? I cant see in the manual that specifies. And anyone have any advice for the best method for sticking the top on? thanks in advance Will William Daniell LONGPORT +57 310 295 0744 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 04:40:37 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Trim damper and sticking the top on. From: William Daniell Sorry everyone I saw a mail from April 2009 from Fred asking the same question and gerry coles' response refering to mail from Andy. The correct answer is 5 Kg +/- 1 Kg. Will William Daniell LONGPORT +57 310 295 0744 On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 6:34 PM, William Daniell < wdaniell.longport@gmail.com> wrote: > Yesterday I got permission from the inspector to turn my canoe into and > airplane. But before i stick the top on can I ask the general wisdom for > gotchas. > > I have done installed pretty much everything I can,,,I think. All the > tail assembly, the pitch containment plywood thing and the electrics. The > coax for the antenna. Installed the battery the main gear and the flap > actuator system, set the wing incidence... > > Anything else I should have done? > > I have one specific question...how tight should the pitch trim damper be? > I cant see in the manual that specifies. > > And anyone have any advice for the best method for sticking the top on? > > thanks in advance > > Will > > > William Daniell > LONGPORT > +57 310 295 0744 > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 04:59:10 PM PST US From: Timward Subject: Re: Europa-List: Trim damper and sticking the top on. Will, It is good to cleo the top on temporarily and mark any join on the top canoe that you can prepare with ease when the top is off. Probably done that already. Cheers, Tim Tim Ward 12 Waiwetu Street Fendalton, Christchurch, 8052 New Zealand. ward.t@xtra.co.nz Ph 64 3 3515166 Mob 0210640221 > On 15/06/2014, at 9:34 am, William Daniell w rote: > > Yesterday I got permission from the inspector to turn my canoe into and ai rplane. But before i stick the top on can I ask the general wisdom for gotc has. > > I have done installed pretty much everything I can,,,I think. All the tai l assembly, the pitch containment plywood thing and the electrics. The coax for the antenna. Installed the battery the main gear and the flap actuator system, set the wing incidence... > > Anything else I should have done? > > I have one specific question...how tight should the pitch trim damper be? I cant see in the manual that specifies. > > And anyone have any advice for the best method for sticking the top on? > > thanks in advance > > Will > > > > William Daniell > LONGPORT > +57 310 295 0744 > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.