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     1. 01:11 AM - G-PUPY takes to the sky (fireflier)
     2. 01:17 AM - Re: G-PUPY takes to the sky (g-fizy)
     3. 01:19 AM - tri gear trailer (g-fizy)
     4. 01:22 AM - Re: G-PUPY takes to the sky (Milne)
     5. 02:19 AM - Re: G-PUPY takes to the sky (Ivor Phillips)
     6. 09:32 AM - Re: G-PUPY takes to the sky (Max Cointe (Free))
     7. 10:09 AM - Re: G-PUPY takes to the sky (duanefamly@aol.com)
     8. 10:43 AM - Re: G-PUPY takes to the sky (Bob Harrison)
     9. 11:24 AM - Re: G-PUPY takes to the sky (Ivor Phillips)
    10. 12:38 PM - Re: G-PUPY takes to the sky (Robert Borger)
    11. 01:00 PM - Re: G-PUPY takes to the sky (fireflier)
    12. 07:13 PM - Re: Noncontact fuel level indicator (Andrew Sarangan)
    13. 07:45 PM - Re: Noncontact fuel level indicator (Pete)
    14. 08:21 PM - Re: Noncontact fuel level indicator (Andrew Sarangan)
    15. 09:48 PM - Re: Noncontact fuel level indicator (Fred Klein)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | G-PUPY takes to the sky | 
      
      
      It's finally happened my Aircraft G-PUPY took to the sky yesterday afternoon on
      its maiden flight  Test pilot confirmed it performed beautifully and that i had
      built a good one  :D 
      
      Looking forward to get the required test flying completed and getting some flying
      done in my pride and joy. 
      
      Many thanks to everyone on this forum for help and assistance provided whilst I
      have been building my aircraft, its much appreciated. 
      
      Many thanks
      Kind regards
      Donald 
      G-PUPY
      
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      Fireflier
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: G-PUPY takes to the sky | 
      
      
      :D well done Donald she looks great 
      
      regards jim
      
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| Subject:  | tri gear trailer | 
      
      
      i'm still after a tri gear trailer ,in any condition if  some one has one sat doing
      nothing ,let me no  :D 
      
      jim
      
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| Subject:  | Re: G-PUPY takes to the sky | 
      
      
      Hi Donald,
      
      Congratulations on the first flight of G PUPY.
      
      Two of the Scottish Islands tour are at Scone and hope to be in Oban at lunchtime
      today (Sunday).   Is G PUPY there and could we meet up?  My phone for text
      is. 07825 650471.
      
      Yours
      
      Alasdair
      
      Sent from my iPad
      
      > On 22 Jun 2014, at 09:11, "fireflier" <fireflier@btinternet.com> wrote:
      > 
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      > It's finally happened my Aircraft G-PUPY took to the sky yesterday afternoon
      on its maiden flight  Test pilot confirmed it performed beautifully and that i
      had built a good one  :D 
      > 
      > Looking forward to get the required test flying completed and getting some flying
      done in my pride and joy. 
      > 
      > Many thanks to everyone on this forum for help and assistance provided whilst
      I have been building my aircraft, its much appreciated. 
      > 
      > Many thanks
      > Kind regards
      > Donald 
      > G-PUPY
      > 
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| Subject:  | Re: G-PUPY takes to the sky | 
      
      
      Very well done, now after all your hard work you will be rewarded with a beautiful
      flying machine,
      Enjoy and hope to see you at some fly in's,
      Ivor
      
      Sent from my iPad
      
      > On 22 Jun 2014, at 09:11, "fireflier" <fireflier@btinternet.com> wrote:
      > 
      > 
      > It's finally happened my Aircraft G-PUPY took to the sky yesterday afternoon
      on its maiden flight  Test pilot confirmed it performed beautifully and that i
      had built a good one  :D 
      > 
      > Looking forward to get the required test flying completed and getting some flying
      done in my pride and joy. 
      > 
      > Many thanks to everyone on this forum for help and assistance provided whilst
      I have been building my aircraft, its much appreciated. 
      > 
      > Many thanks
      > Kind regards
      > Donald 
      > G-PUPY
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| Subject:  | G-PUPY takes to the sky | 
      
      
      Hey Donald, congrats! PUPY looks very nice... As the country side indeed,
      where is it?
      
      Max  Cointe
      mcointe@free.fr
      F-PMLH Europa XS_TriGear
      Kit #560-2003 912ULS/AirmasterAP332 490 hours
      
      F-PLDJ DynAro MCR 4S 
      Kit #27-2002 912ULSFR/MTProp MTV7A 1600 heures
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      Objet: Europa-List: G-PUPY takes to the sky
      
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      It's finally happened my Aircraft G-PUPY took to the sky yesterday afternoon
      on its maiden flight  Test pilot confirmed it performed beautifully and that
      i had built a good one  :D 
      
      Looking forward to get the required test flying completed and getting some
      flying done in my pride and joy. 
      
      Many thanks to everyone on this forum for help and assistance provided
      whilst I have been building my aircraft, its much appreciated. 
      
      Many thanks
      Kind regards
      Donald
      G-PUPY
      
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      Fireflier
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: G-PUPY takes to the sky | 
      
      
      Great job, Donald 
      I hope you really get to enjoy all your hard work. But now you will have to
       admit to all the specs for the records.....build time, engine, prop, weigh
      t, undercarriage, panel, etc. How else can we start to admire and steal you
      r great ideas. 
      
      Mike Duane
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: fireflier <fireflier@btinternet.com>
      Sent: Sun, Jun 22, 2014 1:11 am
      Subject: Europa-List: G-PUPY takes to the sky
      
      
      
      It's finally happened my Aircraft G-PUPY took to the sky yesterday afternoo
      n on 
      its maiden flight  Test pilot confirmed it performed beautifully and that i
       had 
      built a good one  :D 
      
      Looking forward to get the required test flying completed and getting some
      
      flying done in my pride and joy. 
      
      Many thanks to everyone on this forum for help and assistance provided whil
      st I 
      have been building my aircraft, its much appreciated. 
      
      Many thanks
      Kind regards
      Donald 
      G-PUPY
      
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      Fireflier
      
      
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| Subject:  | G-PUPY takes to the sky | 
      
      
      Well Done Donald.
      I wish you as many happy hours in yours as I have had in G-PTAG.
      Regards
      Bob Harrison G-PTAG
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of fireflier
      Sent: 22 June 2014 09:11
      Subject: Europa-List: G-PUPY takes to the sky
      
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      It's finally happened my Aircraft G-PUPY took to the sky yesterday afternoon
      on its maiden flight  Test pilot confirmed it performed beautifully and that
      i had built a good one  :D 
      
      Looking forward to get the required test flying completed and getting some
      flying done in my pride and joy. 
      
      Many thanks to everyone on this forum for help and assistance provided
      whilst I have been building my aircraft, its much appreciated. 
      
      Many thanks
      Kind regards
      Donald
      G-PUPY
      
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      Fireflier
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: G-PUPY takes to the sky | 
      
      
      It looks like Oban in Scotland 
      
      Sent from my iPad
      
      > On 22 Jun 2014, at 17:30, "Max Cointe (Free)" <mcointe@free.fr> wrote:
      > 
      > 
      > Hey Donald, congrats! PUPY looks very nice... As the country side indeed,
      > where is it?
      > 
      > Max  Cointe
      > mcointe@free.fr
      > F-PMLH Europa XS_TriGear
      > Kit #560-2003 912ULS/AirmasterAP332 490 hours
      > 
      > F-PLDJ DynAro MCR 4S 
      > Kit #27-2002 912ULSFR/MTProp MTV7A 1600 heures
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      > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] De la part de fireflier
      > Envoy : dimanche 22 juin 2014 10:11
      >  : europa-list@matronics.com
      > Objet : Europa-List: G-PUPY takes to the sky
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      > --> <fireflier@btinternet.com>
      > 
      > It's finally happened my Aircraft G-PUPY took to the sky yesterday afternoon
      > on its maiden flight  Test pilot confirmed it performed beautifully and that
      > i had built a good one  :D 
      > 
      > Looking forward to get the required test flying completed and getting some
      > flying done in my pride and joy. 
      > 
      > Many thanks to everyone on this forum for help and assistance provided
      > whilst I have been building my aircraft, its much appreciated. 
      > 
      > Many thanks
      > Kind regards
      > Donald
      > G-PUPY
      > 
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      > Fireflier
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| Subject:  | Re: G-PUPY takes to the sky | 
      
      
      Donald,
      
      Congratulations on the first flight of a lovely build.  Now go and enjoy it!
      
      Blue skies & tailwinds,
      Bob Borger
      Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop (50 hrs).
      Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP
      3705 Lynchburg Dr.
      Corinth, TX  76208-5331
      Cel: 817-992-1117
      rlborger@mac.com
      
      On Jun 22, 2014, at 3:11 AM, fireflier <fireflier@btinternet.com> wrote:
      
      
      It's finally happened my Aircraft G-PUPY took to the sky yesterday afternoon on
      its maiden flight  Test pilot confirmed it performed beautifully and that i had
      built a good one  :D 
      
      Looking forward to get the required test flying completed and getting some flying
      done in my pride and joy. 
      
      Many thanks to everyone on this forum for help and assistance provided whilst I
      have been building my aircraft, its much appreciated. 
      
      Many thanks
      Kind regards
      Donald 
      G-PUPY
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: G-PUPY takes to the sky | 
      
      
      Thank for the wishes, much appreciated. 
      
      Max it is my home airfield Oban (EGEO) located on the west coast of scotland, a
      fantastic place to fly from and fantastic scenery from the moment you take off.
      Well done Ivor in spotting it was Oban. 
      
      
      Mike I purchased the xs kit part built, I was the third builder, previous owners
      had done the layups for flying surfaces and got the wings to the point where
      they could be closed over. 
      
      I started with the fuselage.  The kit was originally putchased as a mono wheel
      however i decide from the start i would go down the tri gear route and as such
      purchased the trigear conversion kit from the start. 
      
      My total build time to complete the project was just under 2 years. It has rotax
      912 uls with woodcomp sr3000 prop & Nevillie Eyre's cowls. Panel is a dynon
      skyview  and empty weight is 890lbs.
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Noncontact fuel level indicator | 
      
      
      Regarding the fuel indicator, I made a brief video to show how it
      works. Here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zagLfErDOQI
      
      
      On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 6:51 PM, Paul McAllister
      <paul.the.aviator@gmail.com> wrote:
      >
      > Andrew, since you are writing code you might like to incorporate compensation
      tables for the shape of the tank so you get a linear scale.
      >
      > The system I have is a variant of Tony K's that weights the fuel with a 0 ~ 1"
      pressure transducer. The fuel sloshing and tank shape compensation is done with
      a PIC Micro.  It has worked flawlessly for 10 years.
      >
      > Cheers, Paul
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Sarangan
      > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 9:03 AM
      > To: Europa List
      > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Noncontact fuel level indicator
      >
      > I will take some photos and write up some details in a few days.
      >
      > The idea was based on what I accidentally observed one day when holding a flash
      light to the fuel tank. When the flash light is held below the fuel level,
      the entire fluid lights up. When the flash light is above the level, the tank
      lights up. The contrast across the fluid level is about 10x. This is due to light
      being trapped above or below the level. See attached pictures.
      >
      > So, I made a board with four LEDs in a column, and another board with
      > 10 photodetectors in a column. Using a microcontroller, I am flashing each LED
      in sequence, and then computing the liquid level based on the measured contrast.
      The output is displayed on a 10-bar display. The LED board will attach to
      the aft of the baggage bay bulkhead, with four holes to allow the light to get
      through. The detector board has to attach somewhere on the front side of the
      tank. This might be the tricky part because I need to make sure it is secure,
      but also removable and does not interfere with the controls.
      >
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Noncontact fuel level indicator | 
      
      
      An ingenious solution, and perfectly executed. Kudos!
      
      You could sell it easily to the other builders like me, or at least the board layout,
      and code....(which I'd like to duplicate for each saddle, and add some
      software error checking etc).
      
      Thanks for the great vid!!
      
      Cheers,
      Pete :-)
      A239
      
      > On Jun 22, 2014, at 10:12 PM, Andrew Sarangan <asarangan@gmail.com> wrote:
      > 
      > 
      > Regarding the fuel indicator, I made a brief video to show how it
      > works. Here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zagLfErDOQI
      > 
      > 
      > On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 6:51 PM, Paul McAllister
      > <paul.the.aviator@gmail.com> wrote:
      >> 
      >> Andrew, since you are writing code you might like to incorporate compensation
      tables for the shape of the tank so you get a linear scale.
      >> 
      >> The system I have is a variant of Tony K's that weights the fuel with a 0 ~
      1" pressure transducer. The fuel sloshing and tank shape compensation is done
      with a PIC Micro.  It has worked flawlessly for 10 years.
      >> 
      >> Cheers, Paul
      >> 
      >> -----Original Message-----
      >> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Sarangan
      >> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 9:03 AM
      >> To: Europa List
      >> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Noncontact fuel level indicator
      >> 
      >> I will take some photos and write up some details in a few days.
      >> 
      >> The idea was based on what I accidentally observed one day when holding a flash
      light to the fuel tank. When the flash light is held below the fuel level,
      the entire fluid lights up. When the flash light is above the level, the tank
      lights up. The contrast across the fluid level is about 10x. This is due to light
      being trapped above or below the level. See attached pictures.
      >> 
      >> So, I made a board with four LEDs in a column, and another board with
      >> 10 photodetectors in a column. Using a microcontroller, I am flashing each LED
      in sequence, and then computing the liquid level based on the measured contrast.
      The output is displayed on a 10-bar display. The LED board will attach to
      the aft of the baggage bay bulkhead, with four holes to allow the light to get
      through. The detector board has to attach somewhere on the front side of the
      tank. This might be the tricky part because I need to make sure it is secure,
      but also removable and does not interfere with the controls.
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Noncontact fuel level indicator | 
      
      
      Will be happy to send you the board layout, schematics and the code.
      Let me clean it up a bit so it is a more readable.
      
      
      On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 10:45 PM, Pete <peterz@zutrasoft.com> wrote:
      >
      > An ingenious solution, and perfectly executed. Kudos!
      >
      > You could sell it easily to the other builders like me, or at least the board
      layout, and code....(which I'd like to duplicate for each saddle, and add some
      software error checking etc).
      >
      > Thanks for the great vid!!
      >
      > Cheers,
      > Pete :-)
      > A239
      >
      >> On Jun 22, 2014, at 10:12 PM, Andrew Sarangan <asarangan@gmail.com> wrote:
      >>
      >>
      >> Regarding the fuel indicator, I made a brief video to show how it
      >> works. Here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zagLfErDOQI
      >>
      >>
      >> On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 6:51 PM, Paul McAllister
      >> <paul.the.aviator@gmail.com> wrote:
      >>>
      >>> Andrew, since you are writing code you might like to incorporate compensation
      tables for the shape of the tank so you get a linear scale.
      >>>
      >>> The system I have is a variant of Tony K's that weights the fuel with a 0 ~
      1" pressure transducer. The fuel sloshing and tank shape compensation is done
      with a PIC Micro.  It has worked flawlessly for 10 years.
      >>>
      >>> Cheers, Paul
      >>>
      >>> -----Original Message-----
      >>> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Sarangan
      >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 9:03 AM
      >>> To: Europa List
      >>> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Noncontact fuel level indicator
      >>>
      >>> I will take some photos and write up some details in a few days.
      >>>
      >>> The idea was based on what I accidentally observed one day when holding a flash
      light to the fuel tank. When the flash light is held below the fuel level,
      the entire fluid lights up. When the flash light is above the level, the tank
      lights up. The contrast across the fluid level is about 10x. This is due to
      light being trapped above or below the level. See attached pictures.
      >>>
      >>> So, I made a board with four LEDs in a column, and another board with
      >>> 10 photodetectors in a column. Using a microcontroller, I am flashing each
      LED in sequence, and then computing the liquid level based on the measured contrast.
      The output is displayed on a 10-bar display. The LED board will attach
      to the aft of the baggage bay bulkhead, with four holes to allow the light to
      get through. The detector board has to attach somewhere on the front side of the
      tank. This might be the tricky part because I need to make sure it is secure,
      but also removable and does not interfere with the controls.
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Noncontact fuel level indicator | 
      
      Andrew=85how outstanding=85well done=85I salute you for your skill and 
      understanding of a realm in which I fear to tread=85Fred
      
      On Jun 22, 2014, at 7:12 PM, Andrew Sarangan <asarangan@gmail.com> 
      wrote:
      
      > Regarding the fuel indicator, I made a brief video to show how it
      > works. Here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zagLfErDOQI
      
      
 
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