---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 06/22/14: 15 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:11 AM - G-PUPY takes to the sky (fireflier) 2. 01:17 AM - Re: G-PUPY takes to the sky (g-fizy) 3. 01:19 AM - tri gear trailer (g-fizy) 4. 01:22 AM - Re: G-PUPY takes to the sky (Milne) 5. 02:19 AM - Re: G-PUPY takes to the sky (Ivor Phillips) 6. 09:32 AM - Re: G-PUPY takes to the sky (Max Cointe (Free)) 7. 10:09 AM - Re: G-PUPY takes to the sky (duanefamly@aol.com) 8. 10:43 AM - Re: G-PUPY takes to the sky (Bob Harrison) 9. 11:24 AM - Re: G-PUPY takes to the sky (Ivor Phillips) 10. 12:38 PM - Re: G-PUPY takes to the sky (Robert Borger) 11. 01:00 PM - Re: G-PUPY takes to the sky (fireflier) 12. 07:13 PM - Re: Noncontact fuel level indicator (Andrew Sarangan) 13. 07:45 PM - Re: Noncontact fuel level indicator (Pete) 14. 08:21 PM - Re: Noncontact fuel level indicator (Andrew Sarangan) 15. 09:48 PM - Re: Noncontact fuel level indicator (Fred Klein) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:11:47 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: G-PUPY takes to the sky From: "fireflier" It's finally happened my Aircraft G-PUPY took to the sky yesterday afternoon on its maiden flight Test pilot confirmed it performed beautifully and that i had built a good one :D Looking forward to get the required test flying completed and getting some flying done in my pride and joy. Many thanks to everyone on this forum for help and assistance provided whilst I have been building my aircraft, its much appreciated. Many thanks Kind regards Donald G-PUPY -------- Fireflier Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=425251#425251 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_611.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_253.jpg ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:17:29 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: G-PUPY takes to the sky From: "g-fizy" :D well done Donald she looks great regards jim -------- owner g-fizy Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=425252#425252 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:19:26 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: tri gear trailer From: "g-fizy" i'm still after a tri gear trailer ,in any condition if some one has one sat doing nothing ,let me no :D jim -------- owner g-fizy Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=425253#425253 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:22:38 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: G-PUPY takes to the sky From: Milne Hi Donald, Congratulations on the first flight of G PUPY. Two of the Scottish Islands tour are at Scone and hope to be in Oban at lunchtime today (Sunday). Is G PUPY there and could we meet up? My phone for text is. 07825 650471. Yours Alasdair Sent from my iPad > On 22 Jun 2014, at 09:11, "fireflier" wrote: > > > It's finally happened my Aircraft G-PUPY took to the sky yesterday afternoon on its maiden flight Test pilot confirmed it performed beautifully and that i had built a good one :D > > Looking forward to get the required test flying completed and getting some flying done in my pride and joy. > > Many thanks to everyone on this forum for help and assistance provided whilst I have been building my aircraft, its much appreciated. > > Many thanks > Kind regards > Donald > G-PUPY > > -------- > Fireflier > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=425251#425251 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_611.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_253.jpg > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:19:51 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: G-PUPY takes to the sky From: Ivor Phillips Very well done, now after all your hard work you will be rewarded with a beautiful flying machine, Enjoy and hope to see you at some fly in's, Ivor Sent from my iPad > On 22 Jun 2014, at 09:11, "fireflier" wrote: > > > It's finally happened my Aircraft G-PUPY took to the sky yesterday afternoon on its maiden flight Test pilot confirmed it performed beautifully and that i had built a good one :D > > Looking forward to get the required test flying completed and getting some flying done in my pride and joy. > > Many thanks to everyone on this forum for help and assistance provided whilst I have been building my aircraft, its much appreciated. > > Many thanks > Kind regards > Donald > G-PUPY > > -------- > Fireflier > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=425251#425251 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_611.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_253.jpg > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:32:05 AM PST US From: "Max Cointe (Free)" Subject: RE: Europa-List: G-PUPY takes to the sky Hey Donald, congrats! PUPY looks very nice... As the country side indeed, where is it? Max Cointe mcointe@free.fr F-PMLH Europa XS_TriGear Kit #560-2003 912ULS/AirmasterAP332 490 hours F-PLDJ DynAro MCR 4S Kit #27-2002 912ULSFR/MTProp MTV7A 1600 heures -----Message d'origine----- De: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] De la part de fireflier Envoy: dimanche 22 juin 2014 10:11 : europa-list@matronics.com Objet: Europa-List: G-PUPY takes to the sky --> It's finally happened my Aircraft G-PUPY took to the sky yesterday afternoon on its maiden flight Test pilot confirmed it performed beautifully and that i had built a good one :D Looking forward to get the required test flying completed and getting some flying done in my pride and joy. Many thanks to everyone on this forum for help and assistance provided whilst I have been building my aircraft, its much appreciated. Many thanks Kind regards Donald G-PUPY -------- Fireflier Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=425251#425251 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_611.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_253.jpg ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:09:08 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: G-PUPY takes to the sky From: duanefamly@aol.com Great job, Donald I hope you really get to enjoy all your hard work. But now you will have to admit to all the specs for the records.....build time, engine, prop, weigh t, undercarriage, panel, etc. How else can we start to admire and steal you r great ideas. Mike Duane -----Original Message----- From: fireflier Sent: Sun, Jun 22, 2014 1:11 am Subject: Europa-List: G-PUPY takes to the sky It's finally happened my Aircraft G-PUPY took to the sky yesterday afternoo n on its maiden flight Test pilot confirmed it performed beautifully and that i had built a good one :D Looking forward to get the required test flying completed and getting some flying done in my pride and joy. Many thanks to everyone on this forum for help and assistance provided whil st I have been building my aircraft, its much appreciated. Many thanks Kind regards Donald G-PUPY -------- Fireflier Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=425251#425251 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_611.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_253.jpg ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:43:59 AM PST US From: "Bob Harrison" Subject: RE: Europa-List: G-PUPY takes to the sky Well Done Donald. I wish you as many happy hours in yours as I have had in G-PTAG. Regards Bob Harrison G-PTAG -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of fireflier Sent: 22 June 2014 09:11 Subject: Europa-List: G-PUPY takes to the sky --> It's finally happened my Aircraft G-PUPY took to the sky yesterday afternoon on its maiden flight Test pilot confirmed it performed beautifully and that i had built a good one :D Looking forward to get the required test flying completed and getting some flying done in my pride and joy. Many thanks to everyone on this forum for help and assistance provided whilst I have been building my aircraft, its much appreciated. Many thanks Kind regards Donald G-PUPY -------- Fireflier Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=425251#425251 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_611.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_253.jpg ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:24:39 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: G-PUPY takes to the sky From: Ivor Phillips It looks like Oban in Scotland Sent from my iPad > On 22 Jun 2014, at 17:30, "Max Cointe (Free)" wrote: > > > Hey Donald, congrats! PUPY looks very nice... As the country side indeed, > where is it? > > Max Cointe > mcointe@free.fr > F-PMLH Europa XS_TriGear > Kit #560-2003 912ULS/AirmasterAP332 490 hours > > F-PLDJ DynAro MCR 4S > Kit #27-2002 912ULSFR/MTProp MTV7A 1600 heures > -----Message d'origine----- > De : owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] De la part de fireflier > Envoy : dimanche 22 juin 2014 10:11 > : europa-list@matronics.com > Objet : Europa-List: G-PUPY takes to the sky > > --> > > It's finally happened my Aircraft G-PUPY took to the sky yesterday afternoon > on its maiden flight Test pilot confirmed it performed beautifully and that > i had built a good one :D > > Looking forward to get the required test flying completed and getting some > flying done in my pride and joy. > > Many thanks to everyone on this forum for help and assistance provided > whilst I have been building my aircraft, its much appreciated. > > Many thanks > Kind regards > Donald > G-PUPY > > -------- > Fireflier > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=425251#425251 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_611.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_253.jpg > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:38:49 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: G-PUPY takes to the sky From: Robert Borger Donald, Congratulations on the first flight of a lovely build. Now go and enjoy it! Blue skies & tailwinds, Bob Borger Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop (50 hrs). Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208-5331 Cel: 817-992-1117 rlborger@mac.com On Jun 22, 2014, at 3:11 AM, fireflier wrote: It's finally happened my Aircraft G-PUPY took to the sky yesterday afternoon on its maiden flight Test pilot confirmed it performed beautifully and that i had built a good one :D Looking forward to get the required test flying completed and getting some flying done in my pride and joy. Many thanks to everyone on this forum for help and assistance provided whilst I have been building my aircraft, its much appreciated. Many thanks Kind regards Donald G-PUPY ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 01:00:57 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: G-PUPY takes to the sky From: "fireflier" Thank for the wishes, much appreciated. Max it is my home airfield Oban (EGEO) located on the west coast of scotland, a fantastic place to fly from and fantastic scenery from the moment you take off. Well done Ivor in spotting it was Oban. Mike I purchased the xs kit part built, I was the third builder, previous owners had done the layups for flying surfaces and got the wings to the point where they could be closed over. I started with the fuselage. The kit was originally putchased as a mono wheel however i decide from the start i would go down the tri gear route and as such purchased the trigear conversion kit from the start. My total build time to complete the project was just under 2 years. It has rotax 912 uls with woodcomp sr3000 prop & Nevillie Eyre's cowls. Panel is a dynon skyview and empty weight is 890lbs. -------- Fireflier Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=425293#425293 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:13:30 PM PST US From: Andrew Sarangan Subject: Re: Europa-List: Noncontact fuel level indicator Regarding the fuel indicator, I made a brief video to show how it works. Here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zagLfErDOQI On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 6:51 PM, Paul McAllister wrote: > > Andrew, since you are writing code you might like to incorporate compensation tables for the shape of the tank so you get a linear scale. > > The system I have is a variant of Tony K's that weights the fuel with a 0 ~ 1" pressure transducer. The fuel sloshing and tank shape compensation is done with a PIC Micro. It has worked flawlessly for 10 years. > > Cheers, Paul > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Sarangan > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 9:03 AM > To: Europa List > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Noncontact fuel level indicator > > I will take some photos and write up some details in a few days. > > The idea was based on what I accidentally observed one day when holding a flash light to the fuel tank. When the flash light is held below the fuel level, the entire fluid lights up. When the flash light is above the level, the tank lights up. The contrast across the fluid level is about 10x. This is due to light being trapped above or below the level. See attached pictures. > > So, I made a board with four LEDs in a column, and another board with > 10 photodetectors in a column. Using a microcontroller, I am flashing each LED in sequence, and then computing the liquid level based on the measured contrast. The output is displayed on a 10-bar display. The LED board will attach to the aft of the baggage bay bulkhead, with four holes to allow the light to get through. The detector board has to attach somewhere on the front side of the tank. This might be the tricky part because I need to make sure it is secure, but also removable and does not interfere with the controls. > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 07:45:49 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Noncontact fuel level indicator From: Pete An ingenious solution, and perfectly executed. Kudos! You could sell it easily to the other builders like me, or at least the board layout, and code....(which I'd like to duplicate for each saddle, and add some software error checking etc). Thanks for the great vid!! Cheers, Pete :-) A239 > On Jun 22, 2014, at 10:12 PM, Andrew Sarangan wrote: > > > Regarding the fuel indicator, I made a brief video to show how it > works. Here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zagLfErDOQI > > > On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 6:51 PM, Paul McAllister > wrote: >> >> Andrew, since you are writing code you might like to incorporate compensation tables for the shape of the tank so you get a linear scale. >> >> The system I have is a variant of Tony K's that weights the fuel with a 0 ~ 1" pressure transducer. The fuel sloshing and tank shape compensation is done with a PIC Micro. It has worked flawlessly for 10 years. >> >> Cheers, Paul >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Sarangan >> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 9:03 AM >> To: Europa List >> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Noncontact fuel level indicator >> >> I will take some photos and write up some details in a few days. >> >> The idea was based on what I accidentally observed one day when holding a flash light to the fuel tank. When the flash light is held below the fuel level, the entire fluid lights up. When the flash light is above the level, the tank lights up. The contrast across the fluid level is about 10x. This is due to light being trapped above or below the level. See attached pictures. >> >> So, I made a board with four LEDs in a column, and another board with >> 10 photodetectors in a column. Using a microcontroller, I am flashing each LED in sequence, and then computing the liquid level based on the measured contrast. The output is displayed on a 10-bar display. The LED board will attach to the aft of the baggage bay bulkhead, with four holes to allow the light to get through. The detector board has to attach somewhere on the front side of the tank. This might be the tricky part because I need to make sure it is secure, but also removable and does not interfere with the controls. > > > > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 08:21:51 PM PST US From: Andrew Sarangan Subject: Re: Europa-List: Noncontact fuel level indicator Will be happy to send you the board layout, schematics and the code. Let me clean it up a bit so it is a more readable. On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 10:45 PM, Pete wrote: > > An ingenious solution, and perfectly executed. Kudos! > > You could sell it easily to the other builders like me, or at least the board layout, and code....(which I'd like to duplicate for each saddle, and add some software error checking etc). > > Thanks for the great vid!! > > Cheers, > Pete :-) > A239 > >> On Jun 22, 2014, at 10:12 PM, Andrew Sarangan wrote: >> >> >> Regarding the fuel indicator, I made a brief video to show how it >> works. Here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zagLfErDOQI >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 6:51 PM, Paul McAllister >> wrote: >>> >>> Andrew, since you are writing code you might like to incorporate compensation tables for the shape of the tank so you get a linear scale. >>> >>> The system I have is a variant of Tony K's that weights the fuel with a 0 ~ 1" pressure transducer. The fuel sloshing and tank shape compensation is done with a PIC Micro. It has worked flawlessly for 10 years. >>> >>> Cheers, Paul >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Sarangan >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 9:03 AM >>> To: Europa List >>> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Noncontact fuel level indicator >>> >>> I will take some photos and write up some details in a few days. >>> >>> The idea was based on what I accidentally observed one day when holding a flash light to the fuel tank. When the flash light is held below the fuel level, the entire fluid lights up. When the flash light is above the level, the tank lights up. The contrast across the fluid level is about 10x. This is due to light being trapped above or below the level. See attached pictures. >>> >>> So, I made a board with four LEDs in a column, and another board with >>> 10 photodetectors in a column. Using a microcontroller, I am flashing each LED in sequence, and then computing the liquid level based on the measured contrast. The output is displayed on a 10-bar display. The LED board will attach to the aft of the baggage bay bulkhead, with four holes to allow the light to get through. The detector board has to attach somewhere on the front side of the tank. This might be the tricky part because I need to make sure it is secure, but also removable and does not interfere with the controls. >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 09:48:46 PM PST US From: Fred Klein Subject: Re: Europa-List: Noncontact fuel level indicator Andrew=85how outstanding=85well done=85I salute you for your skill and understanding of a realm in which I fear to tread=85Fred On Jun 22, 2014, at 7:12 PM, Andrew Sarangan wrote: > Regarding the fuel indicator, I made a brief video to show how it > works. 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