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1. 02:43 AM - Re: France Holidaying Suggestions (Grahamhall123@gmail.com)
2. 03:51 AM - Re: France Holidaying Suggestions (nigel henry)
3. 06:17 AM - Re: France Holidaying Suggestions (tennant)
4. 06:36 AM - Re: Re: France Holidaying Suggestions (David Joyce)
5. 07:28 AM - loading and unloading a Mono from a trailer (Fred Klein)
6. 08:13 AM - Re: loading and unloading a Mono from a trailer (Jerry Rehn)
7. 09:50 AM - Re: Re: DOOR detached during flight (Max Cointe (Free))
8. 12:37 PM - Re: France Holidaying Suggestions (Remi Guerner)
9. 02:46 PM - Re: DOOR detached during flight (g-fizy)
10. 04:18 PM - Re: Re: DOOR detached during flight (Fred Klein)
11. 04:22 PM - Re: Re: France Holidaying Suggestions (GRAHAM SINGLETON)
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| Subject: | Re: France Holidaying Suggestions |
Hi Tony,
How about a week or so on the French canals? Relaxing and you see the real France.
Endless walks and cycling on tow paths, as well as the fun of handling the
boat and locks etc. its a really good holiday for all ages. Good food and wine
and a lot of fun!
The canal du midi is near where you are going, but is usually busy as it is fabulous.
Plenty of hire companies do one way hires. However for quieter canals in
the heart of France look at the nivernais canal in burgundy.Plenty of hire companies
including France afloat, le boat, nicholls and locaboat, all on line,
hire on several of the canals. Plenty of visitors from aus and nz as well as
loads of Brits on the canals, so you are amongst friends!
September is our favourite time to spend on the french canals. Usually much quieter
and weather often very good.
For a different view of France and life I recommend the canals. As you can tell
I am addicted- hence the slow progress on Europa build!
If you need any more info please let me know .
Best wishes,
Graham Hall
On Jul 2, 2014, at 5:34 AM, Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw268@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Gidday,
> We are coming across to France in late August early September for 2-3 weeks and
would like some suggestions in particular of places out of the way, and maybe
some hiking day trips as well. Well do the normal stuff, but I was wondering
about trying to get out of the car and take in a bit whilst hiking. Id like
to have a closer look at the Pyrenees and at this time of the year it should be
the right time to get about. We might head down as far as Barcelona or simply
tick the French box, including the Med.
> Any suggestions gratefully accepted, as I know a lot of our UK brothers spend
time in France.
> Regards
> Tony Renshaw
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| Subject: | France Holidaying Suggestions |
Hi Graham=2C Iwas reding your mail on the French canals=2C We have a 42 ft
sailing boat a Beneteau 411 that draws 6 ft and would also like to take her
down the french canal system dismasted. Do you know the depth of the canal
s down to the Med at the moment. Also have a Europa in bits=2C fully stalle
d rebuild=2C Classic tri gear 914. One day one day I will get it flying a
gain.
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: France Holidaying Suggestions
> From: grahamhall123@gmail.com
> Date: Wed=2C 2 Jul 2014 10:42:24 +0100
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
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> Hi Tony=2C
> How about a week or so on the French canals? Relaxing and you see the rea
l France. Endless walks and cycling on tow paths=2C as well as the fun of h
andling the boat and locks etc. its a really good holiday for all ages. Goo
d food and wine and a lot of fun!
> The canal du midi is near where you are going=2C but is usually busy as i
t is fabulous. Plenty of hire companies do one way hires. However for quiet
er canals in the heart of France look at the nivernais canal in burgundy.Pl
enty of hire companies including France afloat=2C le boat=2C nicholls and l
ocaboat=2C all on line=2C hire on several of the canals. Plenty of visitors
from aus and nz as well as loads of Brits on the canals=2C so you are amon
gst friends!
> September is our favourite time to spend on the french canals. Usually mu
ch quieter and weather often very good.
> For a different view of France and life I recommend the canals. As you ca
n tell I am addicted- hence the slow progress on Europa build!
> If you need any more info please let me know .
> Best wishes=2C
> Graham Hall
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> On Jul 2=2C 2014=2C at 5:34 AM=2C Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw268@gmail.com>
wrote:
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> > Gidday=2C
> > We are coming across to France in late August early September for 2-3 w
eeks and would like some suggestions in particular of places out of the way
=2C and maybe some hiking day trips as well. We=92ll do the normal stuff=2C
but I was wondering about trying to get out of the car and take in a bit w
hilst hiking. I=92d like to have a closer look at the Pyrenees and at this
time of the year it should be the right time to get about. We might head do
wn as far as Barcelona or simply tick the French box=2C including the Med.
> > Any suggestions gratefully accepted=2C as I know a lot of our UK brothe
rs spend time in France.
> > Regards
> > Tony Renshaw
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| Subject: | Re: France Holidaying Suggestions |
Hi Tony,
If you are near the Med side of the Pyrenees in August it would be great to see
you. We have a spare bed room in Empuriabrava which is at the end of the Pyrenees
and a possible stop off point on the way to Barcelona which is about 1.5
hrs drive away. We are there until about the 20th August.
August is for boating not flying!
Barry
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At EDLM - Germany
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| Subject: | Re: France Holidaying Suggestions |
Tony, as someone who goes to France several times a year,
I can say that whilst the whole country is virtually
without exception worth visiting, my favourite area is the
Loire and its tributaries. It is the area where the
aristocracy built their country pads (i.e. Chateaux)
before they had their heads lopped off, and for me it has
everything, excellent food & wine interesting countryside
and great architecture.
Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ
On Wed, 2 Jul 2014 06:16:35 -0700
"tennant" <barrington.tennant@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hi Tony,
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> If you are near the Med side of the Pyrenees in August
>it would be great to see you. We have a spare bed room in
>Empuriabrava which is at the end of the Pyrenees and a
>possible stop off point on the way to Barcelona which is
>about 1.5 hrs drive away. We are there until about the
>20th August.
> August is for boating not flying!
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> Barry
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> D-EHBT
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| Subject: | loading and unloading a Mono from a trailer |
Gents
Jerry Rehn has graciously offered me the use of a stock, Europa-built, trailer
to transport Ms. Europa from shop to airport.
Im wondering if there is a set of written instructions for a tried and proven sequence
for loading, wing and tailplane removal, etc. floating aroundif so, Id
be most grateful to receive samea few pixs would be helpful as well.
thanks,
Fred
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| Subject: | Re: loading and unloading a Mono from a trailer |
Fred
Instruction is in the operating manual, look towards the back, at least it is in
mine. I'll give you a copy and a a lesson.
Jerry
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> On Jul 2, 2014, at 6:44 AM, Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com> wrote:
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> Gents
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> Jerry Rehn has graciously offered me the use of a stock, Europa-built, trailer
to transport Ms. Europa from shop to airport.
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> Im wondering if there is a set of written instructions for a tried and proven
sequence for loading, wing and tailplane removal, etc. floating aroundif so,
Id be most grateful to receive samea few pixs would be helpful as well.
>
> thanks,
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> Fred
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| Subject: | Re: DOOR detached during flight |
Jons,
> This is generally limited to the flattish flange of the inboard rear top
corner of the door which over time becomes curled up a little causing rather
an unsightly > gap at that corner. This deformation can be "reset" given
time with ingenious use of weights/ straps/ pressure etc plus careful
warming of the corner. (The gas > strut repositioning mod addresses this
problem and helps prevent it happening though I've not fitted it to mine).
Nop! Just apply the mod and the door will come back at the right place and
will not be deformed anymore. I know it because I did it :-)
> The "twisting" I referred to is simply caused by the (quite flexible) door
being twisted when it is open by the fact that it only has one gas strut
fitted to one > edge of the door.
May be, but dont care! I'm used to taxi with my door semi open during days
and I close it when lining up and I just verify the two bolts (specially the
rear one) are engaged on pushing on the door as the last point of your check
list before take-off! (And reopen it and close it again correctly if it
happens that one is disengaged)
Max Cointe
mcointe@free.fr
F-PMLH Europa XS_TriGear
Kit #560-2003 912ULS/AirmasterAP332 520 hours
F-PLDJ DynAro MCR 4S
Kit #27-2002 912ULSFR/MTProp MTV7A 1650 heures
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] De la part de JonSmith
Envoy: mardi 1 juillet 2014 18:34
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Objet: Europa-List: Re: DOOR detached during flight
--> <jonsmitheuropa@tiscali.co.uk>
Hi, just to clarify and expand on my previous comments and noting the very
valid comments by John Wighton and others, the doors, even when closed can
be semi permanently deformed by the continuous action of the gas strut (mine
certainly has). This is generally limited to the flattish flange of the
inboard rear top corner of the door which over time becomes curled up a
little causing rather an unsightly gap at that corner. This deformation can
be "reset" given time with ingenious use of weights/ straps/ pressure etc
plus careful warming of the corner. (The gas strut repositioning mod
addresses this problem and helps prevent it happening though I've not fitted
it to mine).
I don't think this is the cause of people failing to lock the door correctly
though. The "twisting" I referred to is simply caused by the (quite
flexible) door being twisted when it is open by the fact that it only has
one gas strut fitted to one edge of the door. If it had two gas struts, one
at the front and one at the rear it wouldn't twist - but think of the extra
weight....! On mine, if I disconnect the gas strut the door lowers down
completely straight and fits perfectly into the frame with no extra fiddling
required. When I reconnect the gas strut then due to the induced twist,
after I have lowered it I need to give the bottom of the door my previously
mentioned gentle nudge forward to pop it fully into position (ie. to allow
the rear edge of the door to move fully inwards and fully home). It's a bit
like on my old estate car - one of the gas struts failed on the boot
(trunk!) lid and the boot was a pig to shut because the one remaining
(strong) gas strut twisted !
the thin boot lid so much it needed a huge sideways force to make it fit!
Like John, I am completely convinced that the door design is very good and
completely sound but that this is just one of those things that we all "need
to know" and that we all religiously check that the front and especially the
(harder to see!) rear of the door is correctly shut and in the correct
position with the shoot bolts engaged. Someone mentioned about warning
devices - it's a very personal thing but I prefer not to rely on bells and
whistles which might let me down one day but rely on myself to visually
check each time. I just pray that I don't let myself down one day!
I guess an issue is, and this will always be a risk, where someone less
familiar with the day to day operating of the plane flies it - classic
example being the engineer as the original poster mentioned. As owners I
suppose this will need to be one of many briefing points covered.
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G-TERN
Classic Mono
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| Subject: | Re: France Holidaying Suggestions |
Hello Tony,
If I tell you I am planning to go to Australia and ask you what places to visit,
I believe you would be embarrassed ! So am I . There are so many "must see"
places in France. Making suggestions would mean writing a book! Many guys have
done that already.
However if we could arrange to meet somewhere during your trip, it would be a pleasure
for me to take you for some flying in my Monowheel. I will send you more
details off list.
Best regards
Remi Guerner
F-PGKL
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| Subject: | Re: DOOR detached during flight |
thanks for all your comments here is a pic of the front hinge ,its very thin but
i am no expert ,i wonder if this did fail would the door coming off not damage
the holes that the lock bars go into as the door ripped away as it took one
hell of a chunk from the fuselage
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owner g-fizy
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| Subject: | Re: DOOR detached during flight |
jim.davis wrote:
> here is a pic of the front hinge ,its very thin but i am no expert ,i
wonder if this did fail would the door coming off not damage the holes
that the lock bars go into as the door ripped away as it took one hell
of a chunk from the fuselage
Jim=85and was that =93chunk from the fuselage=94 adjacent to the front
shoot bolt receptacle or the rear one? If we can assume that take off
did not occur with NEITHER shoot bolts engaged, I would think therein
lies the answer to whether or not the loss of door was initiated by
improper engagement of one or the other shoot bolts=85
In any event, you have my sympathies,
Fred
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| Subject: | Re: France Holidaying Suggestions |
Tony=0Athat's one of the best offers you are likely to get! Remi lives in o
ne of the =0Amost beautiful parts of France=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________
________________________=0A From: Remi Guerner <air.guerner@orange.fr>=0ATo
: europa-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Wednesday, 2 July 2014, 20:37=0ASubjec
t: Europa-List: Re: France Holidaying Suggestions=0A =0A=0A--> Europa-List
message posted by: "Remi Guerner" <air.guerner@orange.fr>=0A=0AHello Tony,
=0AIf I tell you I am planning to go to Australia and ask you what places t
o visit, I believe you would be embarrassed !- So am I . There are so man
y "must see" places in France. Making suggestions would mean writing a book
! Many guys have done that- already.=0AHowever if we could arrange to mee
t somewhere during your trip, it would be a pleasure for me to take you for
some flying in my Monowheel. I will send you more details off list.- =0A
Best regards=0ARemi Guerner=0AF-PGKL=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online h
ere:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=425947#425947=0A=0A
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