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1. 12:35 AM - Re: Re: France Holidaying Suggestions (Max Cointe (Free))
2. 12:42 AM - Re: Re: DOOR detached during flight (Brian Davies)
3. 01:00 AM - Re: Re: France Holidaying Suggestions (James Kelly)
4. 01:05 AM - Re: Re: DOOR detached during flight (Max Cointe (Free))
5. 04:08 AM - Re: Re: DOOR detached during flight (Dean Seitz)
6. 06:56 AM - Re: France Holidaying Suggestions (Grahamhall123@gmail.com)
7. 07:14 AM - Re: Re: France Holidaying Suggestions (Robert Borger)
8. 12:04 PM - Re: DOOR detached during flight (g-fizy)
9. 02:27 PM - Re: Re: DOOR detached during flight (GRAHAM SINGLETON)
10. 10:13 PM - Re: Re: France Holidaying Suggestions (Tony Renshaw)
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Subject: | Re: France Holidaying Suggestions |
Hi Tony,
Same offer to you (except I have a tri-gear) if you come close to
Auxerre,
north of Bourgogne! BTW Sancerre is a 20 mn flying and there is an
airfield
(Cosnes sur Loire) just in front.
Max Cointe
<mailto:mcointe@free.fr> mcointe@free.fr
F-PMLH Europa XS_TriGear
Kit #560-2003 912ULS/AirmasterAP332 520 hours
F-PLDJ Dyn=92A=E9ro MCR 4S
Kit #27-2002 912ULSFR/MTProp MTV7A 1650 heures
_____
From: Remi Guerner < <mailto:air.guerner@orange.fr>
air.guerner@orange.fr>
=85
However if we could arrange to meet somewhere during your trip, it would
be
a pleasure for me to take you for some flying in my Monowheel. I will
send
you more details off list.
Best regards
Remi Guerner
F-PGKL
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Subject: | Re: DOOR detached during flight |
Talking of experts, have you spoken to Malcolm McBride at the LAA about
this. He could examine the hinge to determine if there was a pre-existing
crack that could have caused a failure.
Regards
Brian Davies
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of g-fizy
Sent: 02 July 2014 22:46
Subject: Europa-List: Re: DOOR detached during flight
thanks for all your comments here is a pic of the front hinge ,its very thin
but i am no expert ,i wonder if this did fail would the door coming off not
damage the holes that the lock bars go into as the door ripped away as it
took one hell of a chunk from the fuselage
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Subject: | Re: France Holidaying Suggestions |
What are you talking about ! France is fantastic so are the French
particularly the Bretons.
Love France and the French.
Jim G-BWEG
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 12:17 AM, GRAHAM SINGLETON <
grahamsingleton@btinternet.com> wrote:
> Tony
> that's one of the best offers you are likely to get! Remi lives in one of
> the
> most beautiful parts of France
> Graham
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Remi Guerner <air.guerner@orange.fr>
> *To:* europa-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 2 July 2014, 20:37
> *Subject:* Europa-List: Re: France Holidaying Suggestions
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>
> Hello Tony,
> If I tell you I am planning to go to Australia and ask you what places to
> visit, I believe you would be embarrassed ! So am I . There are so many
> "must see" places in France. Making suggestions would mean writing a book!
> Many guys have done that already.
> However if we could arrange to meet somewhere during your trip, it would
> be a pleasure for me to take you for some flying in my Monowheel. I will
> send you more details off list.
> Best regards
> Remi Guerner
> F-PGKL
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Subject: | Re: DOOR detached during flight |
If the door was correctly fitted to open freely and the strut positioned in
such a way that there was not effort on the hinge when fully open, then
there is no reason (not enough efforts) that this hinge breaks in flight
when the door is closed. So it broke when the door opened then departed.
I did fly with a crack on one hinge for month before I replaced it... and
it's the other door who departed because of the rear pin not correctly
engaged!
Max Cointe
mcointe@free.fr
F-PMLH Europa XS_TriGear
Kit #560-2003 912ULS/AirmasterAP332 520 hours
F-PLDJ DynAro MCR 4S
Kit #27-2002 912ULSFR/MTProp MTV7A 1650 heures
-----Original Message-----
thanks for all your comments here is a pic of the front hinge ,its very thin
but i am no expert ,i wonder if this did fail would the door coming off not
damage the holes that the lock bars go into as the door ripped away as it
took one hell of a chunk from the fuselage
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Subject: | Re: DOOR detached during flight |
Where was the fuselage chunck removed from? Was it at one of the lock pin sockets?
Dean Seitz
---- "Max Cointe (Free)" <mcointe@free.fr> wrote:
>
> If the door was correctly fitted to open freely and the strut positioned in
> such a way that there was not effort on the hinge when fully open, then
> there is no reason (not enough efforts) that this hinge breaks in flight
> when the door is closed. So it broke when the door opened then departed.
> I did fly with a crack on one hinge for month before I replaced it... and
> it's the other door who departed because of the rear pin not correctly
> engaged!
>
> Max Cointe
> mcointe@free.fr
> F-PMLH Europa XS_TriGear
> Kit #560-2003 912ULS/AirmasterAP332 520 hours
>
> F-PLDJ DynAro MCR 4S
> Kit #27-2002 912ULSFR/MTProp MTV7A 1650 heures
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> thanks for all your comments here is a pic of the front hinge ,its very thin
> but i am no expert ,i wonder if this did fail would the door coming off not
> damage the holes that the lock bars go into as the door ripped away as it
> took one hell of a chunk from the fuselage
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: France Holidaying Suggestions |
Hi Nigel,
I'm not surprised the Europa plays second place to a beneteau 411!
We have a canal boat (bluebelle) that draws .62 m and based in Vermenton on n
ivernais. Certainly the Bourgogne canal and nivernais would be difficult- I,
ve seen a westerly bilge centau scraping the bottom of the Bourgogne. Lot of
weed too, so overheating common with some boats.
I have no personal experience of the loing canal but hope to do that circuit
in September. The book says 1.8m draft.
Am going to boat next week so cannot comment on water levels now.
If you haven't come across it, fluvial net.com with their fluviacap planner i
s good as is VNF website.
Best wishes,
Graham.
P.s. if you do come through the canals would recommend plenty of fenders for
the locks and hire boats! The midi in particular is frantic.
On Jul 2, 2014, at 11:50 AM, nigel henry <gbupa@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Graham, Iwas reding your mail on the French canals, We have a 42 ft sai
ling boat a Beneteau 411 that draws 6 ft and would also like to take her dow
n the french canal system dismasted. Do you know the depth of the canals dow
n to the Med at the moment. Also have a Europa in bits, fully stalled rebuil
d, Classic tri gear 914. One day one day I will get it flying again.
>
>
> > Subject: Re: Europa-List: France Holidaying Suggestions
> > From: grahamhall123@gmail.com
> > Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 10:42:24 +0100
> > To: europa-list@matronics.com
> >
123@gmail.com>
> >
> > Hi Tony,
> > How about a week or so on the French canals? Relaxing and you see the re
al France. Endless walks and cycling on tow paths, as well as the fun of han
dling the boat and locks etc. its a really good holiday for all ages. Good f
ood and wine and a lot of fun!
> > The canal du midi is near where you are going, but is usually busy as it
is fabulous. Plenty of hire companies do one way hires. However for quieter
canals in the heart of France look at the nivernais canal in burgundy.Plent
y of hire companies including France afloat, le boat, nicholls and locaboat,
all on line, hire on several of the canals. Plenty of visitors from aus and
nz as well as loads of Brits on the canals, so you are amongst friends!
> > September is our favourite time to spend on the french canals. Usually m
uch quieter and weather often very good.
> > For a different view of France and life I recommend the canals. As you c
an tell I am addicted- hence the slow progress on Europa build!
> > If you need any more info please let me know .
> > Best wishes,
> > Graham Hall
> >
> >
> > On Jul 2, 2014, at 5:34 AM, Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw268@gmail.com> wrot
e:
> >
com>
> > >
> > > Gidday,
> > > We are coming across to France in late August early September for 2-3 w
eeks and would like some suggestions in particular of places out of the way,
and maybe some hiking day trips as well. We=99ll do the normal stuff,
but I was wondering about trying to get out of the car and take in a bit wh
ilst hiking. I=99d like to have a closer look at the Pyrenees and at t
his time of the year it should be the right time to get about. We might head
down as far as Barcelona or simply tick the French box, including the Med.
> > > Any suggestions gratefully accepted, as I know a lot of our UK brother
s spend time in France.
> > > Regards
> > > Tony Renshaw
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Subject: | Re: France Holidaying Suggestions |
Tony,
I can guarantee from personal experience that you will enjoy time with
Max, especially if the visit is in Auxerre, one of my favorite places in
France.
Blue skies & tailwinds,
Bob Borger
Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop (50 hrs).
Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208-5331
Cel: 817-992-1117
rlborger@mac.com
On Jul 3, 2014, at 2:34 AM, Max Cointe (Free) <mcointe@free.fr> wrote:
Hi Tony,
Same offer to you (except I have a tri-gear) if you come close to
Auxerre, north of Bourgogne! BTW Sancerre is a 20 mn flying and there is
an airfield (Cosnes sur Loire) just in front.
Max Cointe
mcointe@free.fr
F-PMLH Europa XS_TriGear
Kit #560-2003 912ULS/AirmasterAP332 520 hours
F-PLDJ Dyn=92A=E9ro MCR 4S
Kit #27-2002 912ULSFR/MTProp MTV7A 1650 heures
From: Remi Guerner <air.guerner@orange.fr>
=85
However if we could arrange to meet somewhere during your trip, it would
be a pleasure for me to take you for some flying in my Monowheel. I will
send you more details off list.
Best regards
Remi Guerner
F-PGKL
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Subject: | Re: DOOR detached during flight |
re chunk ,,, the chunk is near the top end of the rear of the door ,i have no idea
how that happend
Has any one thought of a extra lock in the middle of the door,separate from the
door lock that should hold if the rear is not engaged correctly
--------
owner g-fizy
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Subject: | Re: DOOR detached during flight |
Yes. Mal McLure, years ago.=0AKingsley, do you have details of it?=0AGraham
=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: g-fizy <jim.davis1
@me.com>=0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Thursday, 3 July 2014, 20
:03=0ASubject: Europa-List: Re: DOOR detached during flight=0A =0A=0A--> Eu
ropa-List message posted by: "g-fizy" <jim.davis1@me.com>=0A=0Are chunk ,,,
the chunk is near the top end of the rear of the door ,i have no idea how
that happend=0A=0AHas any one thought of a extra lock in the middle of the
door,separate from the door lock that should hold if the rear is not engage
d correctly=0A=0A--------=0Aowner g-fizy=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic onli
ne here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=426026#426026
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Subject: | Re: France Holidaying Suggestions |
Thanks to all the French advice respondents. Once I recover from a slam of j
et lag, I'll,speak to you all individually.
Regards
Tony Renshaw
Sent from my iPad
> On 3 Jul 2014, at 9:13 am, Robert Borger <rlborger@mac.com> wrote:
>
> Tony,
>
> I can guarantee from personal experience that you will enjoy time with Max
, especially if the visit is in Auxerre, one of my favorite places in France
.
>
> Blue skies & tailwinds,
> Bob Borger
> Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop (50 hrs).
> Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP
> 3705 Lynchburg Dr.
> Corinth, TX 76208-5331
> Cel: 817-992-1117
> rlborger@mac.com
>
> On Jul 3, 2014, at 2:34 AM, Max Cointe (Free) <mcointe@free.fr> wrote:
>
> Hi Tony,
>
> Same offer to you (except I have a tri-gear) if you come close to Auxerre
, north of Bourgogne! BTW Sancerre is a 20 mn flying and there is an airfiel
d (Cosnes sur Loire) just in front.
>
> Max Cointe
> mcointe@free.fr
> F-PMLH Europa XS_TriGear
> Kit #560-2003 912ULS/AirmasterAP332 520 hours
>
> F-PLDJ Dyn=99A=C3=A9ro MCR 4S
> Kit #27-2002 912ULSFR/MTProp MTV7A 1650 heures
>
> From: Remi Guerner <air.guerner@orange.fr>
>
>
> However if we could arrange to meet somewhere during your trip, it would b
e a pleasure for me to take you for some flying in my Monowheel. I will send
you more details off list.
> Best regards
> Remi Guerner
> F-PGKL
>
>
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