---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 07/26/14: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:04 AM - Re: Dimension Requested for Trim Tab Link Rod Fork insert (Rowland Carson) 2. 03:44 AM - Re: Dimension Requested for Trim Tab Link Rod Fork insert (Jan de Jong) 3. 08:33 AM - Re: Oshkosh AirVenture 2014 (h&jeuropa) 4. 10:35 AM - Re: Oshkosh AirVenture 2014 (rampil) 5. 03:42 PM - Oshkosh (Erich Trombley) 6. 06:48 PM - Re: Dimension Requested for Trim Tab Link Rod Fork insert (craig) 7. 07:47 PM - Re: Dimension Requested for Trim Tab Link Rod Fork insert (Tony Renshaw) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:04:51 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Dimension Requested for Trim Tab Link Rod Fork insert From: Rowland Carson On 25 Jul 2014, at 23:34, Tony Renshaw wrote: > If anyone has not constructed the T bar, can I please ask for the insert length? Tony - I am sorry I can't offer the information you seek. I agree that the rivets are a problem; I solved it in my case by fitting them at 45 degrees - see: and scroll down to day 21 In your situation, I'd be inclined to order a new link rod etc and re-make it as I'm not sure that there would be enough meat left to support another rivet. While you're at it, you may also fall foul (!) of another issue - you'll see my solution to that on this page: > I will ask Europa if the list is unable to help. Thanks. > Regards > Tony Renshaw > > | Rowland Carson ... that's Rowland with a 'w' ... | http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk | Skype, Twitter: rowland_carson Facebook: Rowland Carson | pictures: http://picasaweb.google.com/rowlandcarson ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:44:44 AM PST US From: Jan de Jong Subject: Re: Europa-List: Dimension Requested for Trim Tab Link Rod Fork insert Tony, My to-be-inserted length is 16.1 +/- 0.2 mm. Thank you for bringing up the potential issue.. Jan de Jong ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:33:35 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Oshkosh AirVenture 2014 From: "h&jeuropa" We hope to arrive Saturday afternoon. Must depart Tuesday before the airshow. Will be in HBC. Will check at Homebuilder HQ Monday at 1000 and Tuesday at 1130. Jim & Heather N241BW Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=427369#427369 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:35:52 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Oshkosh AirVenture 2014 From: "rampil" Roger That! Tuesday 11:30 Homebuilders HQ Ira -------- Ira N224XS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=427376#427376 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:42:44 PM PST US From: "Erich Trombley" Subject: Europa-List: Oshkosh Hi Guys, Arrived in Oshkosh this afternoon. Best leg was at 15,500 - 20 5 kts ground speed. Had to land out about 125nm due to weather earlier h is morning. Good to be back. I am camping with plane in Homebuilt Camp ing. Lunch on Tuesday sounds great. Blue Skies, Erich TrombleyN28ET C lassic Mono 914 ____________________________________________________________ Fast, Secure, NetZero 4G Mobile Broadband. Try it. http://www.netzero.net/?refcd=NZINTISP0512T4GOUT2 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:48:22 PM PST US From: "craig" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Dimension Requested for Trim Tab Link Rod Fork insert Tony, have a look at the link rod between the servo and the bell crank I had a long hard look at it and ended up shortening that link rod about 2mm, trimming the plastic will fix the issue, mine only needed about 2mm total to gain The required clearance, I filed a bit off each one and problem solved, prior to that 2mm it would foul And try to push the servo up at full travel Hope this helps, it may be another way to attack the problem Regards craig From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tony Renshaw Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 8:35 AM Subject: Europa-List: Dimension Requested for Trim Tab Link Rod Fork insert Gidday, Well, it seems my Trim Tab Link Rod, TS05 is conflicting with my plastic forks of the servo, like many others. I think I have to eat humble pie here. The issue is that the vertical of the two rivets that hold the insert AN490 HT8P in position, its head is the culprit. It looks like to me the easiest fix is to take a little of the fork excess plastic away, but there isn't much, and any finer adjustment needs to be made by removing the offending rivet, and repositioning it. Thats my current plan, and to that end I'd like to ask what the length of the insert is that is within my T bar tube. I am thinking of removing the offending rivet and repositioning 45 degrees offset. I would like to double the spacing that exists between the current rivets, in side elevation, for the placement of the next one, so I have double the metal since I have half the offset, as the holes from the removed rivet will have created a wall weakness. Still, there shouldn't be a ridiculous amount of load on these, and the second one is probably more of a secondary means of attachment, aviation double check anyway. If anyone has not constructed the T bar, can I please ask for the insert length? I will ask Europa if the list is unable to help. Thanks. Regards Tony Renshaw No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:47:18 PM PST US From: Tony Renshaw Subject: Re: Europa-List: Dimension Requested for Trim Tab Link Rod Fork insert Hi Craig, If you shorten the link rod, don=92t you change the geometry of the tab displacement? I know Bob Harrison did a similar thing, and he hasn=92t had any problems with the consequence. I will have to take a closer look, as it is an intricate mechanism, and I take my hat off to Ivan and co for designing it. How you do that makes me envious. I might get another link rod and experiment. Scott from Ray Allen is very helpful, so if I stuff it up I=92m sure he will come to the rescue Thanks for replying. Regards Tony Renshaw On 27 Jul 2014, at 11:47 am, craig wrote: > Tony, have a look at the link rod between the servo and the bell crank > I had a long hard look at it and ended up shortening that link rod about 2mm, trimming the plastic will fix the issue, mine only needed about 2mm total to gain > The required clearance, I filed a bit off each one and problem solved, prior to that 2mm it would foul > And try to push the servo up at full travel > > Hope this helps, it may be another way to attack the problem > > Regards > craig > > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tony Renshaw > Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 8:35 AM > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: Europa-List: Dimension Requested for Trim Tab Link Rod Fork insert > > Gidday, > Well, it seems my Trim Tab Link Rod, TS05 is conflicting with my plastic forks of the servo, like many others. I think I have to eat humble pie here. The issue is that the vertical of the two rivets that hold the insert AN490 HT8P in position, its head is the culprit. It looks like to me the easiest fix is to take a little of the fork excess plastic away, but there isn=92t much, and any finer adjustment needs to be made by removing the offending rivet, and repositioning it. Thats my current plan, and to that end I=92d like to ask what the length of the insert is that is within my T bar tube. I am thinking of removing the offending rivet and repositioning 45 degrees offset. I would like to double the spacing that exists between the current rivets, in side elevation, for the placement of the next one, so I have double the metal since I have half the offset, as the holes from the removed rivet will have created a wall weakness. Still, there shouldn=92t be a ridiculous amount of load on these, and the second one is probably more of a secondary means of attachment, aviation double check anyway. > If anyone has not constructed the T bar, can I please ask for the insert length? I will ask Europa if the list is unable to help. Thanks. > Regards > Tony Renshaw > > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > 07/24/14 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.