Europa-List Digest Archive

Sun 07/27/14


Total Messages Posted: 7



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     1. 12:34 AM - mono brake caliper/pads (roddyeuropa@aol.com)
     2. 12:46 AM - Laddingford Fly-In yesterday (David Watts)
     3. 01:39 AM - Re: Laddingford Fly-In yesterday (Kevin Challis)
     4. 02:09 AM - Re: Laddingford Fly-In yesterday (GRAHAM SINGLETON)
     5. 02:18 AM - Re: Laddingford Fly-In yesterday (Richard Holder)
     6. 02:19 AM - Re: Dimension Requested for Trim Tab Link Rod Fork insert (GRAHAM SINGLETON)
     7. 11:49 AM - Re: Dimension Requested for Trim Tab Link Rod Fork insert (Bud Yerly)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:34:39 AM PST US
    Subject: mono brake caliper/pads
    From: roddyeuropa@aol.com
    =0A=0AHas anyone got a mono brake caliper they want to sell, maybe after tri gear conversion? If so, please contact me off list.=0AThanks=0ARoddy Kesterton=0AG-IKRK=0A =0A


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    Time: 12:46:49 AM PST US
    Subject: Laddingford Fly-In yesterday
    From: David Watts <dg.watts@talktalk.net>
    Hi all, And what a day I can report on. Fantastic weather, fantastic people and a fantastic turnout. We have 5 Europa's at Laddingford at the moment, to which 26 flew in yesterday to our annual fly-in, plus another 7 various aircraft types. 2 of this, Tim and Henkel came over from Holland. To everybody, thank you very much. Dave Watts G-BXDY Europa Mono Classic Laddingford Aerodrome Manager


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    Time: 01:39:49 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Laddingford Fly-In yesterday
    From: Kevin Challis <cakeykev@gmail.com>
    Well done Dave glad it went well Kev > On 27 Jul 2014, at 08:46, David Watts <dg.watts@talktalk.net> wrote: > > > Hi all, > > And what a day I can report on. Fantastic weather, fantastic people and a fantastic turnout. > > We have 5 Europa's at Laddingford at the moment, to which 26 flew in yesterday to our annual fly-in, plus another 7 various aircraft types. 2 of this, Tim and Henkel came over from Holland. > > To everybody, thank you very much. > > Dave Watts G-BXDY Europa Mono Classic > Laddingford Aerodrome Manager > > > >


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    Time: 02:09:15 AM PST US
    From: GRAHAM SINGLETON <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: Laddingford Fly-In yesterday
    Hi Dave,=0Aa great day indeed, tried to catch up with you but always busy =0Aor distracted. Lovely to meet up with Sarah again.=0AThanks to everyone, Peter & you and the two Marions and all the others who =0Amade a memorable day run so smoothly.=0AA great way to meet up with old friends one only se es once or twice a year.=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A___________________________ _____=0A From: David Watts <dg.watts@talktalk.net>=0ATo: Europa Forum <euro pa-list@matronics.com> =0ASent: Sunday, 27 July 2014, 8:46=0ASubject: Europ a-List: Laddingford Fly-In yesterday=0A =0A=0A--> Europa-List message poste d by: David Watts <dg.watts@talktalk.net>=0A=0AHi all,=0A=0AAnd what a day I can report on. Fantastic weather, fantastic people and a fantastic turnou t.=0A=0AWe have 5 Europa's at Laddingford at the moment, to which 26 flew i n yesterday to our annual fly-in, plus another 7 various aircraft types. 2 of this, Tim and Henkel came over from Holland.=0A=0ATo everybody, thank yo u very much.=0A=0ADave Watts G-BXDY Europa Mono Classic=0ALaddingford Aerod =========================0A ===================


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    Time: 02:18:07 AM PST US
    From: Richard Holder <richard.holder@outlook.com>
    Subject: Re: Laddingford Fly-In yesterday
    On 27/07/2014 08:46, David Watts wrote: > Hi all, > And what a day I can report on. Fantastic weather, > fantastic people and a fantastic turnout. > We have 5 Europa's at Laddingford at the moment, to > which 26 flew in yesterday to our annual fly-in, plus > another 7 various aircraft types. 2 of this, Tim and > Henkel came over from Holland. > To everybody, thank you very much. David, Peter and all the team A wonderful day, thank you all so much for your efforts. Richard and Pat Holder


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    Time: 02:19:01 AM PST US
    From: GRAHAM SINGLETON <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: Dimension Requested for Trim Tab Link Rod Fork insert
    Tony=0Along time ago but I shortened the plastic a couple of mm. =0AMaybe t he simple way would be to assemble the whole thing without fixing=0Athe ser vo to the bulkhead, then work out where it needs to go without=0Acausing th e fouling=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw268@gmail.com>=0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com =0A Sent: Sunday, 27 July 2014, 3:46=0ASubject: Re: Europa-List: Dimension Requ ested for Trim Tab Link Rod Fork insert=0A =0A=0A=0AHi Craig,=0AIf you shor ten the link rod, don=99t you change the geometry of the tab displace ment? I know Bob Harrison did a similar thing, and he hasn=99t had an y problems with the consequence. I will have to take a closer look, as it i s an intricate mechanism, and I take my hat off to Ivan and co for designin g it. How you do that makes me envious. I might get another link rod and ex periment. Scott from Ray Allen is very helpful, so if I stuff it up I =99m sure he will come to the rescue=0AThanks for replying.=0ARegards=0ATon y Renshaw=0A=0A=0A=0AOn 27 Jul 2014, at 11:47 am, craig <craigb@onthenet.co m.au> wrote:=0A=0ATony, have a look at the link rod between the servo and t he bell crank=0A>I had a long hard look at it and ended up shortening that link rod about 2mm, trimming the plastic will fix the issue, mine only need ed about 2mm total to gain=0A>The required clearance, I filed a bit off eac h one and problem solved, prior to that 2mm it would foul=0A>And try to pus h the servo up at full travel=0A>=C2-=0A>Hope this helps, it may be anoth er way to attack the problem=0A>=C2-=0A>Regards=0A>craig=0A>=C2-=0A>Fro m:=C2-owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com=C2-[mailto:owner-europa-li st-server@matronics.com]=C2-On Behalf Of=C2-Tony Renshaw=0A>Sent:=C2- Saturday, July 26, 2014 8:35 AM=0A>To:=C2-europa-list@matronics.com=0A>Su bject:=C2-Europa-List: Dimension Requested for Trim Tab Link Rod Fork ins ert=0A>=C2-=0A>Gidday,=0A>Well, it seems my Trim Tab Link Rod, TS05 is co nflicting with my plastic forks of the servo, like many others. I think I h ave to eat humble pie here. The issue is that the vertical of the two rivet s that hold the insert AN490 HT8P in position, its head is the culprit. It looks like to me the easiest fix is to take a little of the fork excess pla stic away, but there isn=99t much, and any finer adjustment needs to be made by removing the offending rivet, and repositioning it. Thats my cur rent plan, and to that end I=99d like to ask what the length of the i nsert is that is within my T bar tube. I am thinking of removing the offend ing rivet and repositioning 45 degrees offset. I would like to double the s pacing that exists between the current rivets, in side elevation, for the p lacement of the next one, so I have double the metal since I have half the offset, as the holes from the removed rivet will have created a wall weakne ss. Still, there shouldn=99t be a ridiculous amount of load on these, and the second one is probably more of a secondary means of attachment, aviation double check anyway.=C2-=0A> =C2-If anyone has not constructed the T bar, can I please ask for the ins ert length? I will ask Europa if the list is unable to help. Thanks.=0A>Reg ards=0A>Tony Renshaw=0A>=C2-=0A>=C2-<image001.jpg><image002.jpg>=0A>No virus found in this message.=0A>Checked by AVG -=C2-www.avg.com=0A>07/24/ ===============


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    Time: 11:49:25 AM PST US
    From: Bud Yerly <budyerly@msn.com>
    Subject: Dimension Requested for Trim Tab Link Rod Fork insert
    Tony=2C As stated by others it is far easier=2C with no other problems as a result =2C to shorten the plastic clevis so the total length is about 1/8 inch sho rter. Normally 2- 3 mm is OK 1/8 inch .125 is the max I have ever trimmed. Leave the trim rod alone then and you'll be fine. Regards=2C Bud Yerly From: grahamsingleton@btinternet.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: Dimension Requested for Trim Tab Link Rod Fork in sert Tony long time ago but I shortened the plastic a couple of mm. Maybe the simple way would be to assemble the whole thing without fixing the servo to the bulkhead=2C then work out where it needs to go without causing the fouling Graham From: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw268@gmail.com> To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday=2C 27 July 2014=2C 3:46 Subject: Re:=0A Europa-List: Dimension Requested for Trim Tab Link Rod Fork insert Hi Craig=2CIf you shorten the link rod=2C don=92t you change the geometry o f the tab displacement? I know Bob Harrison did a similar thing=2C and he h asn=92t had any problems with the consequence. I will have to take a closer look=2C as it is an intricate mechanism=2C and I take my hat off to Ivan a nd co for designing it. How you do that makes me envious. I might get anoth er link rod and experiment. Scott from Ray Allen is very helpful=2C so if I stuff it up I=92m sure he will come to the rescueThanks for replying.Regar dsTony Renshaw On 27 Jul 2014=2C at 11:47 am=2C craig <craigb@onthenet.com.au> wrote:Tony =2C have a look at the link rod between the servo and the bell crankI had a long hard look at it and ended up shortening that link rod about 2mm=2C tr imming the plastic will fix the issue=2C mine only needed about 2mm total t o=0A gainThe required clearance=2C I filed a bit off each one and problem solve d=2C prior to that 2mm it would foulAnd try to push the servo up at full tr avel Hope this helps=2C it may be another way to attack the=0A problem Regardscraig From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tony=0A Renshaw Sent: Saturday=2C July 26=2C 2014 8:35 AM Subject: Europa-List: Dimension Requested for Trim Tab Link Rod Fork insert Gidday=2CWell=2C it seems my Trim Tab Link Rod=2C TS05 is conflicting wit h my plastic forks of the servo=2C like many=0A others. I think I have to eat humble pie here. The issue is that the verti cal of the two rivets that hold the insert AN490 HT8P in position=2C its he ad is the culprit. It looks like to me the easiest fix is to take a little of the fork excess plastic away=2C but there isn=92t much=2C and any finer adjustment needs to be made by removing the offending rivet=2C and repositi oning it. Thats my current plan=2C and to that end I=92d like to ask what t he length of the insert is that is within my T bar tube. I am thinking of r emoving the offending rivet and repositioning 45 degrees offset. I would li ke to double the spacing that exists between the current rivets=2C in side elevation=2C for the placement of the next one=2C so I have double the meta l since I have half the offset=2C as the holes from the removed rivet will have created a wall weakness. Still=2C there shouldn=92t be a ridiculous am ount of load on these=2C and the second one is probably more of a secondary means of=0A attachment=2C aviation double check anyway. If anyone has not constructed the T bar=2C can I please ask for the insert length? I will ask Europa if the list is unable to help. Thanks.RegardsTony Renshaw <image001.jpg><ima ge002.jpg>No virus found in this message. Checked=0A by AVG - www.avg.com 07/24/14 =0A http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-Listofollow" target="_blank" hr ef="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">h=0A =0A =0A =0A =0A ============0A ============0A ============0A ============0A =0A




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