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1. 02:01 AM - Re: anti-corrosion coating of tailwheel spring arm (Bill & Sue)
2. 02:14 AM - Re: Re: anti-corrosion coating of tailwheel spring arm (GRAHAM SINGLETON)
3. 02:46 AM - Re: Tinnerman washers on cowling (Greg Fuchs)
4. 02:55 AM - Re: Tinnerman washers on cowling (GRAHAM SINGLETON)
5. 03:52 AM - Re: Tinnerman washers on cowling (Greg Fuchs)
6. 04:12 AM - Re: Tinnerman washers on cowling (GRAHAM SINGLETON)
7. 08:35 AM - Fw: Steel protection for the tailwheel spring (AUVRAY Michel)
8. 08:46 AM - Re: Tinnerman washers on cowling (Fred Klein)
9. 08:55 AM - Spring Tailwheel protection (AUVRAY Michel)
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| Subject: | Re: anti-corrosion coating of tailwheel spring arm |
Rowland,
We had all our metalwork plated/anodised by a firm in Portsmouth who were excellent
but it was many years ago and there was a (reasonable) minimum charge. I
suspect the trigear legs are similar to the tail spring, on the advice of the
factory and others who know better than I we left the legs alone because of the
(possible) issues of embrittlement. I strongly suspect you would get a perfectly
satisfactory indistinguishable result and sleep easier at night if you just
paint them.
Regards
Bill
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| Subject: | Re: anti-corrosion coating of tailwheel spring arm |
Better still, just coat them with ACF50.=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A___________
_____________________=0A From: "Bill & Sue" <Billandsue@billbell.co.uk>=0AT
o: europa-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Friday, 22 August 2014, 10:00=0ASubje
ct: Europa-List: Re: anti-corrosion coating of tailwheel spring arm=0A =0A
.co.uk>=0A=0ARowland,=0A=0AWe had all our metalwork plated/anodised by a fi
rm in Portsmouth who were excellent but it was many years ago and there was
a (reasonable) minimum charge. I suspect the trigear legs are similar to t
he tail spring, on the advice of the factory and others who know better tha
n I we left the legs alone because of the (possible) issues of embrittlemen
t. I strongly suspect you would get a perfectly satisfactory indistinguisha
ble result and sleep easier at night if you just paint them.=0A=0ARegards
=0A=0A=0ABill=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums
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| Subject: | Tinnerman washers on cowling |
I am in fact- ruminating about recessing the entire face of the tinnerman. I
guess it's good to know I may be overthinking this one.
Regards, and
Good luck with the final stages of your build,
Greg (back on track)
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fred Klein
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Tinnerman washers on cowling
Greg.I believe that conceptually, the tinnerman washer is designed to fit
into a chamfered hole somewhat larger than the diameter of the fastener.this
will automatically bring the perimeter surface of the washer down to the
surface of your cowl.
I take it that when you use the word, "flush", this is what you mean, given
that the thickness of the tinnerman is so very thin.
If, on the other hand, you're ruminating on whether or not to recess the
entire face of the tinnerman, I'd venture to opine that you may be
"overhanging".
(Whoops.sorry.that was meant to be "overthinking", not "overhanging".)
I have never examined a stock Europa cowl, but I do believe it is solid FG,
not a foam core sandwich.
Fred
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| Subject: | Re: Tinnerman washers on cowling |
Countersink the cowling enough to sit the Twasher flat on the cowl then fil
l to level it off=0Aand leave a recess for the rim of the washer. =0AEasy t
o do if you are obsessed with the boundary layer. Probably it is already di
sturbed=0Aby the thrashing propeller anyway so nice appearance is the only
advantage.=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From:
Greg Fuchs <gregoryf.flyboy@comcast.net>=0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com
=0ASent: Friday, 22 August 2014, 10:45=0ASubject: RE: Europa-List: Tinnerma
n washers on cowling=0A =0A=0A=0AI am in fact- ruminating about recessing t
he entire =0Aface of the tinnerman. I guess it's good to know I may be=C2
-overthinking this =0Aone. =0ARegards, and =0AGood luck with the final st
ages of your =0Abuild,=0AGreg (back on track)=0A=C2-=0A=0A_______________
_________________=0A From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com =0A[mailt
o:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fred =0AKlein=0ASent
: Thursday, August 21, 2014 2:42 PM=0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com=0ASubje
ct: Re: Europa-List: Tinnerman washers =0Aon cowling=0A=0AGregI be
lieve that conceptually, the tinnerman washer is designed to =0Afit into a
chamfered hole somewhat larger than the diameter of the fastenerth
is =0Awill automatically bring the perimeter surface of the washer down to
the surface =0Aof your cowl. =C2- =0A=0AI take it that when you use the w
ord, =9Cflush=9D, this is what you mean, given =0Athat the thic
kness of the tinnerman is so very thin.=0A=0AIf, on the other hand, you
=99re ruminating on whether or not to recess the =0Aentire face of the t
innerman, I=99d venture to opine that you may be =0A=9Coverhang
ing=9D.=0A=0A(Whoopssorrythat was meant to =0Abe=C2
-=9Coverthinking=9D, not=C2-=9Coverhanging=9D.)
=0A=0AI have never examined a stock Europa cowl, but I do believe it is sol
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| Subject: | Tinnerman washers on cowling |
Hmm..good idea. I'll be staring at the items tomorrow to try to figure out
how to proceed..
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GRAHAM
SINGLETON
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 2:54 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Tinnerman washers on cowling
Countersink the cowling enough to sit the Twasher flat on the cowl then fill
to level it off
and leave a recess for the rim of the washer.
Easy to do if you are obsessed with the boundary layer. Probably it is
already disturbed
by the thrashing propeller anyway so nice appearance is the only advantage.
Graham
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From: Greg Fuchs <gregoryf.flyboy@comcast.net>
Sent: Friday, 22 August 2014, 10:45
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Tinnerman washers on cowling
I am in fact- ruminating about recessing the entire face of the tinnerman. I
guess it's good to know I may be overthinking this one.
Regards, and
Good luck with the final stages of your build,
Greg (back on track)
_____
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fred Klein
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Tinnerman washers on cowling
Greg.I believe that conceptually, the tinnerman washer is designed to fit
into a chamfered hole somewhat larger than the diameter of the fastener.this
will automatically bring the perimeter surface of the washer down to the
surface of your cowl.
I take it that when you use the word, "flush", this is what you mean, given
that the thickness of the tinnerman is so very thin.
If, on the other hand, you're ruminating on whether or not to recess the
entire face of the tinnerman, I'd venture to opine that you may be
"overhanging".
(Whoops.sorry.that was meant to be "overthinking", not "overhanging".)
I have never examined a stock Europa cowl, but I do believe it is solid FG,
not a foam core sandwich.
Fred
http://www.ma"nofollow" target="_blank"
href="http://forums.matronics.com/">http://f==========
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| Subject: | Re: Tinnerman washers on cowling |
Greg=0Aif you do go this way, mix a bit of flox in the micro-balloons to gi
ve =0Ait some wear resistance=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A______________________
__________=0A From: Greg Fuchs <gregoryf.flyboy@comcast.net>=0ATo: europa-l
ist@matronics.com =0ASent: Friday, 22 August 2014, 11:51=0ASubject: RE: Eur
opa-List: Tinnerman washers on cowling=0A =0A=0A=0AHmm..good idea. I'll be
staring at the items tomorrow to try =0Ato figure out how to proceed..=0A
=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: owner-europa-list-server@ma
tronics.com =0A[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
GRAHAM =0ASINGLETON=0ASent: Friday, August 22, 2014 2:54 AM=0ATo: europa-l
ist@matronics.com=0ASubject: Re: Europa-List: Tinnerman washers =0Aon cowli
ng=0A=0A=0ACountersink =0Athe cowling enough to sit the Twasher flat on the
cowl then fill to level it =0Aoff=0Aand leave a recess for the rim of the
washer. =0AEasy to do if you are =0Aobsessed with the boundary layer. Proba
bly it is already disturbed=0Aby the =0Athrashing propeller anyway so nice
appearance is the only =0Aadvantage.=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_______________
_________________=0A From: Greg =0AFuchs <gregoryf.flyboy@comcast.net>=0ATo
: europa-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Friday, 22 August 2014, =0A10:45=0ASub
ject: RE: Europa-List: =0ATinnerman washers on cowling=0A=0A=0A=0AI am in f
act- ruminating about recessing =0Athe entire face of the tinnerman. I gues
s it's good to know I may =0Abe=C2-overthinking this one. =0ARegards, and
=0AGood luck with the final stages of your =0Abuild,=0AGreg (back on track
)=0A=C2-=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: owner-europa-list
-server@matronics.com =0A[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On
Behalf Of Fred =0AKlein=0ASent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 2:42 PM=0ATo: eu
ropa-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Re: Europa-List: Tinnerman washers =0Aon
cowling=0A=0AGregI believe that conceptually, the tinnerman washe
r is designed to =0Afit into a chamfered hole somewhat larger than the diam
eter of the fastenerthis =0Awill automatically bring the perimeter
surface of the washer down to the surface =0Aof your cowl. =C2- =0A=0AI
take it that when you use the word, =9Cflush=9D, this is what y
ou mean, given =0Athat the thickness of the tinnerman is so very thin.=0A
=0AIf, on the other hand, you=99re ruminating on whether or not to re
cess the =0Aentire face of the tinnerman, I=99d venture to opine that
you may be =0A=9Coverhanging=9D.=0A=0A(Whoopssorry
that was meant to =0Abe=C2-=9Coverthinking=9D, not=C2
-=9Coverhanging=9D.)=0A=0AI have never examined a stock Europ
a cowl, but I do believe it is solid FG, =0Anot a foam core sandwich.=0A=0A
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rums.matronics.com/">http://f========== =0A=0A=0Ahref
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| Subject: | Fwd: Steel protection for the tailwheel spring |
-------- Message original --------
Sujet: Steel protection for the tailwheel spring
Date : Thu, 21 Aug 2014 14:40:34 +0200
De : AUVRAY Michel <mau11@orange.fr>
Pour : rowlandcarson@gmail.com
Hi Roland,
I have coated my tailwheel spring with "BLAKSON" product.
Originally this is for underside of the cars, this product exist in
black or dark grey colours.
The consistency is pasty liquid.
May be now in other colours ?
The quality is top since 1997
Michel AUVRAY
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| Subject: | Re: Tinnerman washers on cowling |
On Aug 22, 2014, at 2:54 AM, GRAHAM SINGLETON
<grahamsingleton@btinternet.com> wrote:
> Countersink the cowling enough to sit the Twasher flat on the cowl
then fill to level it off
> and leave a recess for the rim of the washer.
> Easy to do if you are obsessed with the boundary layer.
Wow=85love it...always something to learn on this list=85Fred
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| Subject: | Spring Tailwheel protection |
Hi Roland,
I have coated my tailwheel spring with "BLAKSON" product.
Originally this is for underside of the cars, this product exist in
black or dark grey colours.
The consistency is pasty liquid.
May be now in other colours ?
The quality is top since 1997
Michel AUVRAY
---
Ce courrier =E9lectronique ne contient aucun virus ou logiciel malveillant
parce que la protection avast! Antivirus est active.
http://www.avast.com
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