---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 09/03/14: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:10 AM - Re: US Fly In (h&jeuropa) 2. 04:48 AM - Re: Fuel Caps for the Europa Fleet. (rampil) 3. 04:54 AM - Re: US Fly In (rampil) 4. 05:16 AM - Re: Re: Fuel Caps for the Europa Fleet. (Kevin Challis) 5. 11:29 AM - Re: Re: Fuel Caps for the Europa Fleet. (Bud Yerly) 6. 05:41 PM - Re: Fuel Caps for the Europa Fleet. (Kyle P) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:10:00 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: US Fly In From: "h&jeuropa" Hi Paddy, We'd really like to go, and are keeping an eye on weather, but it doesn't look promising for us to travel from Michigan, at least this year. Hope others living closer are able to make the trip. If you go, please put something in the Europa Flyer, since it sounds cool & we've never been! Photos would be excellent. Sorry we probably won't have a chance to meet you this trip. Jim & Heather Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=429900#429900 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:48:14 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Fuel Caps for the Europa Fleet. From: "rampil" I believe the non-kludge choices for the loss of an original kit supplied fuel cap (which are 70 mm diameter) are: 1) tear up fuselage and replace existing 70 mm flange with now standard 65 mm flange / cap set 2) As Bud has offered, have supplier provide a new short production run of 70mm caps NB: when I mentioned the locking mechanism in my prior post, I was referring to the standard twist latch in the cap, not to the key-lock. I do not believe the presence or absence of the key-lock has an impact on the diameter and seal issue. Cheers -------- Ira N224XS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=429902#429902 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:54:11 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: US Fly In From: "rampil" Hi Paddy, I will most likely be flying up to Tripletree on Saturday in Ron Alexander's DC-3. If you have never seen the place, it will be quite a treat. The runway is 7000' long and 400' wide and from side to side and end to end, the consistency of a putting green! The owners' collection of aircraft is also quite a treat. Cheers, Ira -------- Ira N224XS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=429903#429903 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:16:22 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Fuel Caps for the Europa Fleet. From: Kevin Challis Bud If your fuel cap fits the old size can I be put on the list if it's not to late. Thanks Kevin Challis > On 3 Sep 2014, at 13:47, "rampil" wrote: > > > I believe the non-kludge choices for the loss of an original kit supplied > fuel cap (which are 70 mm diameter) are: > > 1) tear up fuselage and replace existing 70 mm flange with now standard 65 mm flange / cap set > > 2) As Bud has offered, have supplier provide a new short production run of 70mm caps > > NB: when I mentioned the locking mechanism in my prior post, I was referring > to the standard twist latch in the cap, not to the key-lock. I do not believe > the presence or absence of the key-lock has an impact on the diameter and seal issue. > > Cheers > > -------- > Ira N224XS > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=429902#429902 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:29:21 AM PST US From: "Bud Yerly" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Fuel Caps for the Europa Fleet. Kevin, I was just about to close the production out. I'll add you on. Please provide your shipping address and a phone to my email budyerly@msn.com The cap fits the gray SPRL cap used on the XS kits of my customers dating from about late 1999 to early 2004 time frame. Just measure the outside diameter and look at the photo's on my post. New ones are a raised flange and are 65mm diameter. The ones I am ordering are 70mm diameter and have a tapered flange. Regards, Bud Yerly ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Challis To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 8:15 AM Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Fuel Caps for the Europa Fleet. > Bud If your fuel cap fits the old size can I be put on the list if it's not to late. Thanks Kevin Challis > On 3 Sep 2014, at 13:47, "rampil" > wrote: > > > > I believe the non-kludge choices for the loss of an original kit supplied > fuel cap (which are 70 mm diameter) are: > > 1) tear up fuselage and replace existing 70 mm flange with now standard 65 mm flange / cap set > > 2) As Bud has offered, have supplier provide a new short production run of 70mm caps > > NB: when I mentioned the locking mechanism in my prior post, I was referring > to the standard twist latch in the cap, not to the key-lock. I do not believe > the presence or absence of the key-lock has an impact on the diameter and seal issue. > > Cheers > > -------- > Ira N224XS > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=429902#429902 > > > > > > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:41:31 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fuel Caps for the Europa Fleet. From: Kyle P Bud I would like one. Just seeing this post. Kyle Phillipson 2058739493 On Aug 19, 2014 5:25 PM, "Bud Yerly" wrote: > To all owners and operators. > > I received a call from a client who inadvertently misplaced his gas cap. > His kit is a about a 2001 XS and Europa-Aircraft (2004) does not have stock > on these older caps. > Come to find out, the caps changed in or about 2003. All caps on newer XS > kits have a smaller cap and ring (65mmOD). > > *What to check.* > If you have a fuel cap supplied with your kit made by SPRL that measures *70 > mm OD *on the gray cap, these caps are no longer in production and the > new 65 mm caps do not fit properly. Aircraft Spruce and Wicks do not have > any old style caps in inventory. > > Classic caps and the newer XS kits are available but the cap and flange > have to be bought at an average price of about $60-$70. On the older pre > 2004 kits if you have the 70 mm cap and you wish to upgrade to the newer > style, you will have to cut the fuel ring out and replace. Not fun > especially since the diameters are different. > > Please review the pdf document attached for details on the differences. > > I am putting together a special order for my Custom Flight Clients for the > older 70 mm caps through Newton SPRL. The price is reasonable and less > then current retail. I highly recommend that older XS kit owners purchase > a spare in the unlikely event your cap may disappear. *We are not > supplying the key lock.* This is a one time shot as it is coming out of > my pocket for the R&D. I cannot expect the current Europa Company to > support these pre 2004 kit fuel caps as it is not economically viable to do > so. > > However, determined owners like myself will attempt to make a special > order through the manufacturer happen to keep my clients happy and > supplied. You are all welcome to piggy back on my efforts and research. > > Email or call in your order to me direct, not through the Matronics site > please so as not to clutter up the site. > > Regards, > > Bud Yerly > Custom Flight Creations, Inc. > personal email: budyerly@msn.com, > Mobile Phone: 813-244-8354 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.