---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 09/05/14: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:48 AM - Re: Sideways movement in Tri Gear nose wheel arm. (Alan Carter) 2. 06:36 AM - Re: LAA/CAA IFR permission on europas (Alan Carter) 3. 07:29 AM - Re: Re: LAA/CAA IFR permission on europas (David Watts) 4. 07:45 AM - Re: Re: LAA/CAA IFR permission on europas (Brian Davies) 5. 10:12 AM - Re: Fuel Caps for the Europa Fleet. (Kyle P) 6. 11:48 AM - Re: LAA/CAA IFR permission on europas (Alan Carter) 7. 02:53 PM - Re: LAA/CAA IFR permission on europas (Alan Carter) 8. 10:58 PM - Re: LAA/CAA IFR permission on europas (spcialeffects) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:48:41 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Sideways movement in Tri Gear nose wheel arm. From: "Alan Carter" Hi All. Phoned Europa, its Loctite 638 used. However so far I have tightened the two bolts on the leg strut and the movement is now down to about 1/4" where the tyre meets the ground. Will take spats off etc, and have a look, as now the 1/4"play could be on a small amount in the bearings or horizontal and vertical Axials Will have to order some 638. Alan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430031#430031 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:36:04 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: LAA/CAA IFR permission on europas From: "Alan Carter" Hi . A member completed his IMC rating on a Europa, I am still not sure if this possible, and not going to post on it, However I received an 869 page document from the CAA, There were so many vague points it was a mine field, all I can say is the test has to be carried out on a certified aeroplane that is fully duel controlled and a swing over control column is not acceptable. It listed the required instruments and avionic, but it did not say about certified instrument or avionics, it did say only two types of GPS where acceptable. I made several phone calls and many e-mails at the time, but still could not get a definite answers to my question, every question lead to another factor, so gave up in the end. Alan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430043#430043 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:29:20 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: LAA/CAA IFR permission on europas From: David Watts Alan, I can't believe that you are harping on abut this again after the last episode where you were quite definitely pointed in the right direction to read all the relevant rules regarding training for and doing the test on a Permit to Fly aircraft. IT IS PERMITTED. It has been permitted relatively quite recently, I can't remember exactly when, but a couple of years if my memory serves me correcty. If some body new dragged up an old resolved subject it is a bit acceptable, but when the same person drags up a subject again, just because they can't accept the answers they got, I find this totally unacceptable. Dave > On 5 Sep 2014, at 14:35, "Alan Carter" wrote: > > > Hi . > A member completed his IMC rating on a Europa, I am still not sure if this possible, and not going to post on it, > However I received an 869 page document from the CAA, > There were so many vague points it was a mine field, all I can say is the test has to be carried out on a certified aeroplane that is fully duel controlled and a swing over control column is not acceptable. > It listed the required instruments and avionic, but it did not say about certified instrument or avionics, it did say only two types of GPS where acceptable. > I made several phone calls and many e-mails at the time, but still could not get a definite answers to my question, every question lead to another factor, so gave up in the end. > Alan > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430043#430043 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:45:28 AM PST US From: "Brian Davies" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: LAA/CAA IFR permission on europas I think we need a bit of patience on this one. The current activity with the LAA and UK CAA involves a trial to determine the detailed procedures and policies. When this trial is complete, and the CAA have approved everything, the LAA will issue a Technical Leaflet which will explain, in detail, how to get your aircraft approved for night/IFR operations. It has taken 6 years of studies and negotiations to get this far but we are nearly there! Regards Brian Davies -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alan Carter Sent: 05 September 2014 14:35 Subject: Europa-List: Re: LAA/CAA IFR permission on europas --> Hi . A member completed his IMC rating on a Europa, I am still not sure if this possible, and not going to post on it, However I received an 869 page document from the CAA, There were so many vague points it was a mine field, all I can say is the test has to be carried out on a certified aeroplane that is fully duel controlled and a swing over control column is not acceptable. It listed the required instruments and avionic, but it did not say about certified instrument or avionics, it did say only two types of GPS where acceptable. I made several phone calls and many e-mails at the time, but still could not get a definite answers to my question, every question lead to another factor, so gave up in the end. Alan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430043#430043 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:12:47 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fuel Caps for the Europa Fleet. From: Kyle P Thank you Bud. 5936 Deer Crest Ln Trussville, AL 35173 How do you wany payment? On Sep 4, 2014 4:51 PM, "Bud Yerly" wrote: > Kyle, > Caps will be about $35 US plus shipping. Production is just starting. > I'll get you added on. > > Please provide shipping address to my email budyerly@msn.com > > Regards, > Bud Yerly > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Kyle P > *To:* europa-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 03, 2014 8:40 PM > *Subject:* Re: Europa-List: Fuel Caps for the Europa Fleet. > > Bud I would like one. Just seeing this post. > > Kyle Phillipson > 2058739493 > On Aug 19, 2014 5:25 PM, "Bud Yerly" wrote: > >> To all owners and operators. >> >> I received a call from a client who inadvertently misplaced his gas cap. >> His kit is a about a 2001 XS and Europa-Aircraft (2004) does not have st ock >> on these older caps. >> Come to find out, the caps changed in or about 2003. All caps on newer >> XS kits have a smaller cap and ring (65mmOD). >> >> *What to check.* >> If you have a fuel cap supplied with your kit made by SPRL that measures *70 >> mm OD *on the gray cap, these caps are no longer in production and the >> new 65 mm caps do not fit properly. Aircraft Spruce and Wicks do not ha ve >> any old style caps in inventory. >> >> Classic caps and the newer XS kits are available but the cap and flange >> have to be bought at an average price of about $60-$70. On the older pr e >> 2004 kits if you have the 70 mm cap and you wish to upgrade to the newer >> style, you will have to cut the fuel ring out and replace. Not fun >> especially since the diameters are different. >> >> Please review the pdf document attached for details on the differences. >> >> I am putting together a special order for my Custom Flight Clients for >> the older 70 mm caps through Newton SPRL. The price is reasonable and l ess >> then current retail. I highly recommend that older XS kit owners purcha se >> a spare in the unlikely event your cap may disappear. *We are not >> supplying the key lock.* This is a one time shot as it is coming out of >> my pocket for the R&D. I cannot expect the current Europa Company to >> support these pre 2004 kit fuel caps as it is not economically viable to do >> so. >> >> However, determined owners like myself will attempt to make a special >> order through the manufacturer happen to keep my clients happy and >> supplied. You are all welcome to piggy back on my efforts and research. >> >> Email or call in your order to me direct, not through the Matronics site >> please so as not to clutter up the site. >> >> Regards, >> >> Bud Yerly >> Custom Flight Creations, Inc. >> personal email: budyerly@msn.com, >> Mobile Phone: 813-244-8354 >> >> > * > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List ">http://www.matronhref ="http://forums.matronics.com ">http://for ums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution ">http://www.matronics.com/c > * > > * > =========== tronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List> =========== =========== om/contribution> =========== > > * > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:48:58 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: LAA/CAA IFR permission on europas From: "Alan Carter" Get the 869 page document's and don,t be so rude , I remember you rude comments last time, there is no need to post rude comments, Perhaps you can find out if the instruments and avionics have to be certified, that would be useful. Alan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430068#430068 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:53:23 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: LAA/CAA IFR permission on europas From: "Alan Carter" David It is not all as you think, to be exact there a many variables involved in what you can and can't do, involved in adding ratings to your licence. And I am not posting on this again. However the question was about certified instruments and avionics, and as the instruments and avionics are listed for an IMC rating plus they two type of gps were approved for training in the 869 pages I have read. Alan Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430081#430081 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:58:47 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: LAA/CAA IFR permission on europas From: "spcialeffects" Hi Brian. Well I for one can't wait for your technical letter out lining what is acceptable or required as I am putting off buying my panel at the moment so that I can build a fully accepted IFR fit panel. I am buying dynon throught out as I consider it value for money. 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