---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 09/11/14: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:41 AM - Re: Rotax Fly Dat (philip george) 2. 01:47 AM - Re: 914 / Woodcomp / fuel consumption ... ?? (Remi Guerner) 3. 02:19 AM - Re: Fwd Aft movement at wing tip (tennant) 4. 05:16 AM - Re: Fwd Aft movement at wing tip (Bud Yerly) 5. 08:52 AM - Re: Fwd Aft movement at wing tip (spcialeffects) 6. 12:25 PM - Re: Fwd Aft movement at wing tip (Kelvin Weston) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:41:42 AM PST US From: philip george Subject: RE: Europa-List: Rotax Fly Dat Send it to skydrive Alan=2C had a reset done in January . It cost =A319.81 including post and packing . Regards . Phil George (G-EORJ) mono xs 912s > Subject: Europa-List: Rotax Fly Dat > From: alancarteresq@onetel.net > Date: Wed=2C 10 Sep 2014 14:03:41 -0700 > To: europa-list@matronics.com > t> > > Hi All. > Live in Kent=2C in UK . closest place to get my Rotax Flydat reset=2C ??? > ie=2C plug in socket front right side of display=2C for Rotax computer > > Regards. > Alan > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430317#430317 > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:47:41 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: 914 / Woodcomp / fuel consumption ... ?? From: "Remi Guerner" Hi all, I would like to add a few comments on the subject of aircraft cruise performances: 1. At a given power, with any aircraft type, higher is faster. That is because higher mean less density, therefore less drag. For a given power, the altitude at which you will get the best speed is when you need full throttle to get this power. 2. Law of physics: for a given true airspeed (TAS), indicated airspeed (IAS) decreases by the square root of density. Density decreases with altitude and temperature. To measure and compare aircraft performances, forget IAS and measure TAS using the 3 vector GPS method. This should be done in smooth air, at the same power, at the same density altitude and same load. 3. With my aircraft, XS Monowheel 912ULS, Airmaster prop, whenever I want to evaluate the effect of a drag reduction mod, I climb to 8500ft density altitude. This can be FL85 and minus 2 deg.C or FL75 and 10 deg.C or FL65 and 20 deg.C or any other combination giving a 8500ft density altitude, depending on the prevailing conditions. Going full throttle eliminate the effect of any error of the manifold pressure instrument. The actual MP will be about 22 In.Hg. Prop RPM set at 5000. According to the Rotax Owner Manual, this setting gives 59 percent of max continuous power. This setting give me a consistent 135 kts TAS. I do not care what IAS is, as this is not relevant. TAS does not change significantly with the aircraft weight and/or balance. Average fuel burn measured on many long cross country at this setting is around 19 liter per hour. Regards Remi XS mono F-PGKL 1160 hours .. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430347#430347 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:19:32 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Fwd Aft movement at wing tip From: "tennant" Hi Kelvin, Only a comment - not a recommendation!! I have had some slight back and fore movement on my right wing for 17 years and 700 hrs. Barry -------- Barry Tennant D-EHBT At EDLM - Germany Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430348#430348 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:16:13 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fwd Aft movement at wing tip From: Bud Yerly Kevin=2C When rigged properly=2C all rigging pins in=2C the wing root pins screwed i n tight or to one thread=2C the forward socket should be just touching the root rib to out no more than 1/32" . The spar sockets and spar strap must be installed. The structure will flex a bit in and out. With about 10 pounds of force pu shing aft on the tip the forward pin will pull out about 1/16 inch. The re ar sockets are solid once the mod 52 tie bar is installed. Once the sockets are on=2C you may need to tweak your sweep. Please make s ure your forward pin is in the socket fully to 1/32". There should be no b ending load on the front pin. Best Regards=2C Bud Yerly Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID Kelvin Weston wrote: All Have just finished fitting the fwd W27 and aft W26 wing sockets to the fuse lage and everything looks good. Wing angle is good on both sides and checke d at mid-point and wing tip. Fwd aft sweep measured at several points is good. String from each wingtip is parallel with the spars. Both wings assemble easily and both main spar pins fit with a firm push and a bit of effort. However=2C when assembled there is a small amount of fwd aft movement at bo th wingtips relative to the fuselage. As far as I can tell this is entirely due to the movement of the parts maki ng up the aft W26 socket. The pip pin is a good fit and the small amount of movement is between the W26C barrel and the W26A body. It is a small movement but over the span of the wing is obviously magnified .. I have checked the gap between the fwd W27 sockets and the wing root rib an d the gap is 0.8 to 0.9mm both sides. Should I be worried about this fwd aft movement. I have no wing root fairings on at present and guess this would help limit the fwd aft movement when finally fitted. I hope I am worrying about nothing but all opinions=2C views appreciated to put my mind at rest. -------- Regards Kelv Weston Kit 497 kelv@kdweston.biz Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430316#430316 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:52:38 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Fwd Aft movement at wing tip From: "spcialeffects" Hi Kevin. I too have just finished fitting the wing pin sockets. I'm not near my aircraft at the moment as I am away on holiday and so can't check how much movement, if any, there is but the question I want to ask you is if you have fitted the top on as prior to the top and stiffening strips being fitted everything is flexible. Frank Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430372#430372 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:25:58 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Fwd Aft movement at wing tip From: "Kelvin Weston" Barry 17 years and 700 hours in a Europa, now I am really jealous. Bud Thanks for the info. I measured the gap between wing root and fwd socket again. It is 0.8mm one side and 0.9mm the other. slightly more than 1/32 (0.79mm) but not by much. Both pins extend just beyond the inboard face of the fwd sockets. No bending loads evident on the fwd pins, they slide nicely into the sockets when rigging. The spar strap and tie bar are not done yet but both spar sockets are on and the port main spar pin is adjusted for length as per the manual. Frank Hope you had the same feeling of satisfaction I had seeing the wings on. Top is not on and stiffeners not done yet. However, I do have a very sturdy build cradle and temporarily secured the top in place with skin pins about every 8 inches. I understand what you mean about everything being flexible. With a helper moving the wing tip, the slight, fwd aft clunk-clunk movement can definitely be tracked back to the movement of the W26C barrel within the lugs of the W26A body. It is a very small movement at the socket, almost not visible but can be felt with a finger on the assembly. Over the length of the wing it becomes a more obvious movement at the tip although still small. It is the same both sides so unless I have two bad W26 socket assemblies, I am probably worrying about nothing. -------- Regards Kelv Weston Kit 497 kelv@kdweston.biz Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430402#430402 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.