---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 09/16/14: 19 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:26 AM - Wings missing mass balance recesses (Gavin Lee) 2. 02:45 AM - Identification of parts (tonyvaccarella) 3. 02:56 AM - Re: Identification of parts (Gert Dalgaard) 4. 03:00 AM - Re: Identification of parts (Sky Mail) 5. 04:46 AM - Re: Identification of parts (tonyvaccarella) 6. 04:57 AM - Re: Re: Identification of parts (Tony Renshaw) 7. 05:30 AM - Re: Auto Pilot for Mono (tonyvaccarella) 8. 05:37 AM - Re: Re: Identification of parts (Sky Mail) 9. 06:08 AM - Re: Re: Identification of parts (Robert Borger) 10. 06:17 AM - Dover for a day (Tony Renshaw) 11. 06:33 AM - Re: Dover for a day (David Joyce) 12. 08:21 AM - Re: Dover for a day (tennant) 13. 08:48 AM - Re: Identification of parts (Nigel Graham) 14. 09:30 AM - Re: Identification of parts (Steven Pitt) 15. 12:58 PM - Re: Identification of parts (spcialeffects) 16. 01:01 PM - Re: Auto Pilot for Mono (spcialeffects) 17. 02:11 PM - Re: Identification of parts (craig) 18. 04:44 PM - Re: Re: Auto Pilot for Mono (Robert Borger) 19. 09:29 PM - Re: Dover for a day (Kingsley Hurst) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:26:41 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Wings missing mass balance recesses From: Gavin Lee Hi Tony I have what is referred to as a "hybrid". I purchased the wing and tail kit in 1997 and they were of foam core constru ction, by the time I was ready for the fuselage the XS was in production so I ended up with classic "foam core" wings and tail and an XS fuselage. If this is what you have rest assured the combination works just fine Based in Auckland, welcome to come across and inspect if you wish Gavin Lee ZK - EPA ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:45:24 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Identification of parts From: "tonyvaccarella" Hi everyone, While staking stock of all the parts, bit and pieces that arrived with my partially built Europa - which I only learned today has Classic Wings and XS body, I came across these. Does anyone know what they are? Your help is appreciated. Regards, Tony Vaccarella -------- Tony Vaccarella Mascot NSW 2020 Sydney Australia Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430599#430599 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:56:01 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Identification of parts From: Gert Dalgaard Hi Tony Did you forget to enclose a Photo? :) Regards Gert OY-GDS / Mono / 914 2014-09-16 11:44 GMT+02:00 tonyvaccarella : > > > > Hi everyone, > > While staking stock of all the parts, bit and pieces that arrived with my > partially built Europa - which I only learned today has Classic Wings and > XS body, I came across these. Does anyone know what they are? > > Your help is appreciated. > > Regards, > Tony Vaccarella > > -------- > Tony Vaccarella > Mascot NSW 2020 > Sydney Australia > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430599#430599 > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:00:10 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Identification of parts From: Sky Mail Tony Have you attached or referenced a picture - I can't see anything? Richard Sent from my iPad > On 16 Sep 2014, at 10:44, "tonyvaccarella" wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > > While staking stock of all the parts, bit and pieces that arrived with my partially built Europa - which I only learned today has Classic Wings and XS body, I came across these. Does anyone know what they are? > > Your help is appreciated. > > Regards, > Tony Vaccarella > > -------- > Tony Vaccarella > Mascot NSW 2020 > Sydney Australia > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430599#430599 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:46:27 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Identification of parts From: "tonyvaccarella" Sorry everyone, I thought I had attached the image. Lets try it again.... Tony -------- Tony Vaccarella Mascot NSW 2020 Sydney Australia Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430602#430602 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/2014_09_16_174841_165.jpg ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:57:09 AM PST US From: Tony Renshaw Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Identification of parts Nope, no pic. TR Sent from my iPad > On 16 Sep 2014, at 1:44 pm, "tonyvaccarella" wrote: > > > Sorry everyone, > > I thought I had attached the image. Lets try it again.... > > Tony > > -------- > Tony Vaccarella > Mascot NSW 2020 > Sydney Australia > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430602#430602 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/2014_09_16_174841_165.jpg > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:30:46 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Auto Pilot for Mono From: "tonyvaccarella" I cant add too much to this thread but I have just taken possession of A011 that has an STEC 30 installed. Not flying yet but having trouble finding information about the installation. Just wondering if anyone has heard of these STEC's in Europa's. Tony -------- Tony Vaccarella Mascot NSW 2020 Sydney Australia Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430606#430606 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:37:53 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Identification of parts From: Sky Mail Tony The pic is in a link at the bottom of the email - I have looked but cannot identify. Richard Sent from my iPad > On 16 Sep 2014, at 12:56, Tony Renshaw wrote: > > > Nope, no pic. > TR > > Sent from my iPad > >> On 16 Sep 2014, at 1:44 pm, "tonyvaccarella" wrote: >> >> >> Sorry everyone, >> >> I thought I had attached the image. Lets try it again.... >> >> Tony >> >> -------- >> Tony Vaccarella >> Mascot NSW 2020 >> Sydney Australia >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430602#430602 >> >> >> >> >> Attachments: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/2014_09_16_174841_165.jpg >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:08:52 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Identification of parts From: Robert Borger Tony, The pic is there this time. I do not recognize the part. Blue skies & tailwinds, Bob Borger Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop (75 hrs). Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208-5331 Cel: 817-992-1117 rlborger@mac.com On Sep 16, 2014, at 6:44 AM, tonyvaccarella wrote: Sorry everyone, I thought I had attached the image. Lets try it again.... Tony -------- Tony Vaccarella Mascot NSW 2020 Sydney Australia Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430602#430602 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/2014_09_16_174841_165.jpg ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:17:29 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Dover for a day From: Tony Renshaw Gidday, Due to the Air France pilot strike we are catching the ferry tomorrow back across the channel, and in Dover or environs for Wed night. Does anyone have any suggestions for a place to stay, as we depart Heathrow Thurs? Since this is a pilots forum, and because of those scurrulous greedy AF blokes ruining our chances for cheap sub load seats, I felt I'd ask the question, pilot to pilot ;-) Any help appreciated. We just have to kill 24 hours and then find our way to Heathrow, if possible avoiding London. (Yet to research). Regards Tony Renshaw Lost Aussie Sent from my iPad ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:33:20 AM PST US From: "David Joyce" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Dover for a day Tony, Look up Dover on www.booking.com which will give you a complete view of what is available, often at somewhat discounted prices. The assessments/reviews are totally reliable in my experience. We use the system extensively in our European trips. Sorry I am not in that half of the country or could have offered you accommodation. There are some interesting places in Kent. Dover itself has a lot to offer. Canterbury likewise. I have just got back from staying overnight at the Adobe in Canterbury High Street (a small choir I am in were singing in the Cathedral on Monday - quite some experience) That was an excellent hotel but not cheap. Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 15:16:44 +0200 Tony Renshaw wrote: > > > Gidday, > Due to the Air France pilot strike we are catching the >ferry tomorrow back across the channel, and in Dover or >environs for Wed night. Does anyone have any suggestions >for a place to stay, as we depart Heathrow Thurs? Since >this is a pilots forum, and because of those scurrulous >greedy AF blokes ruining our chances for cheap sub load >seats, I felt I'd ask the question, pilot to pilot ;-) > Any help appreciated. We just have to kill 24 hours and >then find our way to Heathrow, if possible avoiding >London. (Yet to research). > Regards > Tony Renshaw > Lost Aussie > > > Sent from my iPad > >Un/Subscription, >Forums! >Admin. > > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:21:48 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Dover for a day From: "tennant" Tony, If you want an extraordinary stay I can recommend "Wallett's Court Dover Spa Hotel". It is about 10 mins from the docks. It is so old that it is mentioned in the Doomsday Book!! Super food also. Ask to stay in one of the rooms in the main house if possible. It is on Booking.com Barry -------- Barry Tennant D-EHBT At EDLM - Germany Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430614#430614 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:48:12 AM PST US From: Nigel Graham Subject: Re: Europa-List: Identification of parts Looks to me like two legs off a cheap Chinese gazebo. If you're intending to fit them you might need a mod approval ;-) On 16/09/2014 10:44, tonyvaccarella wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > While staking stock of all the parts, bit and pieces that arrived with my partially built Europa - which I only learned today has Classic Wings and XS body, I came across these. Does anyone know what they are? > > Your help is appreciated. > > Regards, > Tony Vaccarella > > -------- > Tony Vaccarella > Mascot NSW 2020 > Sydney Australia > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430599#430599 > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 09:30:48 AM PST US From: "Steven Pitt" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Identification of parts Tony, My immediate reaction was to say it was the CS01 bottom of the control column fittings (Section 13), but my manual shows that mine were forked at the narrow portion. Try contacting Andy Draper at andy.draper@laa.uk.com In case you are not aware he was the Chief Engineer at Europa Aircraft from the beginning. Regards Steve Pitt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nigel Graham" Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 4:47 PM Subject: Re: Europa-List: Identification of parts > > > Looks to me like two legs off a cheap Chinese gazebo. If you're intending > to fit them you might need a mod approval ;-) > > > On 16/09/2014 10:44, tonyvaccarella wrote: >> >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> While staking stock of all the parts, bit and pieces that arrived with my >> partially built Europa - which I only learned today has Classic Wings and >> XS body, I came across these. Does anyone know what they are? >> >> Your help is appreciated. >> >> Regards, >> Tony Vaccarella >> >> -------- >> Tony Vaccarella >> Mascot NSW 2020 >> Sydney Australia >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430599#430599 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 12:58:40 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Identification of parts From: "spcialeffects" Hi Tony, welcome to the fountain of knowledge! Im building a classic kit and haven't come across anything that looks like your photo, sorry. When it comes to building your wings take a look at europa owners.org page 4 I have some photos of the building of my wings. Just a taste of what's to come for you. Enjoy, Frank Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430629#430629 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 01:01:49 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Auto Pilot for Mono From: "spcialeffects" I have installed 2x dynon servo's. I got brackets fabricated for my install into my classic mono. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430631#430631 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 02:11:33 PM PST US From: "craig" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Identification of parts Just a thought, but are they an adaptor for the outrigger legs to take a different size rod???? Good luck craig ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 04:44:40 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Auto Pilot for Mono From: Robert Borger Tony, You can go to s-tec.com for information on the S-TEC autopilot systems. You can probably download documentation and get customer support there. Blue skies & tailwinds, Bob Borger Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop (75 hrs). Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208-5331 Cel: 817-992-1117 rlborger@mac.com On Sep 16, 2014, at 7:30 AM, tonyvaccarella wrote: I cant add too much to this thread but I have just taken possession of A011 that has an STEC 30 installed. Not flying yet but having trouble finding information about the installation. Just wondering if anyone has heard of these STEC's in Europa's. Tony -------- Tony Vaccarella Mascot NSW 2020 Sydney Australia ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 09:29:46 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Dover for a day From: Kingsley Hurst > Any help appreciated. We just have to kill 24 hours and then find our way to Heathrow, if possible avoiding London. (Yet to research). > Regards > Tony Renshaw > Lost Aussie Geez Tony, I'm SO concerned for you I'm almost sick from worrying. Fancy having to spend an extra day or two waiting for a free flight home. It's not fair mate, just not fair! 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