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2. 02:15 AM - Re: Re: Identification of parts ()
3. 05:12 AM - Re: Identification of parts (Europaul383)
4. 05:17 AM - Re: Re: Identification of parts (Nigel Graham)
5. 08:47 AM - Re: Re: Identification of parts (Tony Renshaw)
6. 04:44 PM - US Europa XS monowheel project for sale (ROBERT LINDSAY)
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Subject: | Re: Identification of parts |
I second the Nigel comment as my a/c is a XS fuselage with classic wings .
I never saw anything like that during my build. Phil George . G-EORJ
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_graham@m-tecque.co.uk> </div><div>Date:16/09/2014 16:52 (GMT+00:00) </di
v><div>To: europa-list@matronics.com </div><div>Subject: Re: Europa-List: I
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Looks to me like two legs off a cheap Chinese gazebo. If you're
intending to fit them you might need a mod approval =3B-)
On 16/09/2014 10:44=2C tonyvaccarella wrote:
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> Hi everyone=2C
>
> While staking stock of all the parts=2C bit and pieces that arrived with
my partially built Europa - which I only learned today has Classic Wings an
d XS body=2C I came across these. Does anyone know what they are?
>
> Your help is appreciated.
>
> Regards=2C
> Tony Vaccarella
>
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> Tony Vaccarella
> Mascot NSW 2020
> Sydney Australia
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430599#430599
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Subject: | Re: Identification of parts |
Hello Tony,
It appears to me that this may have been the previous owners cheap way
of
adapting the control columns from 1=BC inches diameter to 1 inch to
allow the
fitting of one inch hand grips, rather than going for the cranked
control
columns of mod 54.
I suggest you measure the internal diameters of the parts in your
photograph
to see if they are 1=BC inches at one end and 1 inch of the other. If
so,
check your control columns and see if they are 1=BC inch aluminium and
straight, rather than the later one inch diameter steel and cranked.
Mod 54 explains:
"Several types of hand grip are available for aircraft control columns
and
the most common diameter of column they are made to fit is 1".
"The reduction in diameter from 1=BC" to 1" demanded that the control
column
be made from steel rather than the existing aluminium alloy to cater for
the
maximum load that may be applied."
The full details of mod 54 are on the company website at:
http://www.europa-aircraft.co.uk/pdfs/modifications/Mod%2054.pdf
The change in diameter for the mod is accomplished by inserting a
sleeve,
but if you wish to retain the existing aluminium columns and merely
change
the diameter to allow one inch handgrips to be fitted, then the parts in
your photograph may do this.
Of course, I may be completely wrong and your unidentified parts could
have
absolutely nothing to do with the control columns!
Best regards,
Mike
Dr Mike Gregory
Europa Club safety officer
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Subject: Europa-List: Re: Identification of parts
--> < <mailto:tony@weimagine.com.au> tony@weimagine.com.au>
Sorry everyone,
I thought I had attached the image. Lets try it again....
Tony
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Tony Vaccarella
Mascot NSW 2020
Sydney Australia
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Subject: | Re: Identification of parts |
This probably won't help with the current unidentified parts (they aren't shown
here) but here is a composite (no pun etc) photo of all the XS kit hardware parts,
not including larger items like the control sticks themselves.
Some of the part nos are recognisable by their label - CS is Control System, FL
is Flaps, LG is Landing Gear etc.
You can see, at bottom right, the CS01 control stick bottom fittings that your
mystery parts resemble - hence the general thinking that these might be some sort
of mod in that area.
HTH,
Paul M
383 XS Mono 912S
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Subject: | Re: Identification of parts |
Tony,
I can categorically confirm that this is NOT a Europa part and should
not under any circumstances go anywhere near your plane, let alone a
primary control. It is not even of aviation quality. Your photo shows a
rolled and seam welded mild steel tube with stamped holes. The nuts and
bolts look to be cadmium plated hardware-store quality mild steel with
the probable tensile strength of cheese.
Proper aviation quality steel tubing is always seamless and the hardware
will only be hight tensile AN spec. Holes in aircraft quality components
will be drilled, not stamped.
What you have is a jointing component used on something like mass
produced garden furniture and is used to connect two tubes and was
probably shipped in error with you kit.
Builders do tend to store garden furniture in and around their kits in
the garage once they have lost their "building mojo".
If you find any other curious bits requiring identification, do post up
a picture.
Nigel
On 17/09/2014 10:18, m.j.gregory@talk21.com wrote:
>
> Hello Tony,
>
> It appears to me that this may have been the previous owners cheap way
> of adapting the control columns from 1 inches diameter to 1 inch to
> allow the fitting of one inch hand grips, rather than going for the
> cranked control columns of mod 54.
>
> I suggest you measure the internal diameters of the parts in your
> photograph to see if they are 1 inches at one end and 1 inch of the
> other. If so, check your control columns and see if they are 1 inch
> aluminium and straight, rather than the later one inch diameter steel
> and cranked.
>
> Mod 54 explains:
>
> "Several types of hand grip are available for aircraft control columns
> and the most common diameter of column they are made to fit is 1".
>
> "The reduction in diameter from 1" to 1" demanded that the control
> column be made from steel rather than the existing aluminium alloy to
> cater for the maximum load that may be applied."
>
> The full details of mod 54 are on the company website at:
>
> http://www.europa-aircraft.co.uk/pdfs/modifications/Mod%2054.pdf
>
> The change in diameter for the mod is accomplished by inserting a
> sleeve, but if you wish to retain the existing aluminium columns and
> merely change the diameter to allow one inch handgrips to be fitted,
> then the parts in your photograph may do this.
>
> Of course, I may be completely wrong and your unidentified parts could
> have absolutely nothing to do with the control columns!
>
> Best regards,
>
> /Mike/
>
> Dr Mike Gregory
>
> Europa Club safety officer
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> tonyvaccarella
> Sent: 16 September 2014 12:45
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Europa-List: Re: Identification of parts
>
>
> --> <tony@weimagine.com.au <mailto:tony@weimagine.com.au>>
>
> Sorry everyone,
>
> I thought I had attached the image. Lets try it again....
>
> Tony
>
> --------
>
> Tony Vaccarella
>
> Mascot NSW 2020
>
> Sydney Australia
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430602#430602
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/2014_09_16_174841_165.jpg
> <http://forums.matronics.com/files/2014_09_16_174841_165.jpg>
>
> *
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Identification of parts |
Nigel, you crack me up....
Builders do tend to store garden furniture in and around their kits in the garage
once they have lost their "building mojo".
Tony, hopefully home on the weekend. Next week maybe I can help with some parts
identification.
Regards
Tony Renshaw
Sent from my iPad
> On 17 Sep 2014, at 1:16 pm, Nigel Graham <nigel_graham@m-tecque.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Builders do tend to store garden furniture in and around their kits in the garage
once they have lost their "building mojo".
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Subject: | US Europa XS monowheel project for sale |
I have A-076 complete factory ordered kit minus Stage 4 (firewall
foward). I have had offers to buy components but have resisted parting
out the project. I have now decided to sell the full project.
Stage 1 thru 3 kits are essentially complete with the following
comments:
Stage 1 kit: Rudder needs completion.
Stage 2 kit: Wiring, nav/strobe lights, nav antenna, angle of
attack component installed. Wings are not closed out.
Stage 3 kit: Not wired, top clecoed in place
Additional components available: Trutrack AP, Whelen strobe power
supply, assorted cockpit instruments/GPS
Completed construction has been IA inspected.
Project located in San Diego CA at Gillespie Field Sky Harbor Hangars.
$13000 OBO by Nov 2014
Bob Lindsay N77EU (kit # A077)
619/435-1088
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